Im there - its working now, literally just got it working this morning then left for work....just out of curiosity - i wasnt able to get to the forum from home or work for the last 24 hours - were there ISP issues??? or was it just me. Sorry going off topic, it think im using the rytec epg but i was messing around with cross epg - this is all new to me so is there a "best practice" type of thing to follow, only have one epg running etc etc....