Brands dispute: Dream Multimedia has taken action against VU + Duo

[digidude]

a lot of it is probably down to the way the images of other receivers are blatantly ripped from dreambox images, and so much dreambox references are there, its things like this that spoil an image for me

for example, crash your Vu+ receiver so that it greenscreens, and it tells you that your dreambox has crashed and to send the crashlog to dreammultimedia. if you have autosubmit enabled, then DMM will be receiving allof these logs, detailing your system, showing that its not a DMM product, but is using ripped DMM images

The image i used to work on, which was PLi based, had been looked over numerous times, in fine detail, and its the ONLY image i have ever sen that doesnt refer to the receiver as 'your linuxbox', but instead, by its actual name, every reference to any receiver other than the one it was running on was removed or edited out, the green screen was rewritten, with a little of my twisted humour added, just for fun

[silverfox0786]

funny u say that digi i been working on a new autocrash submit that green screens vix and sends a crash log to me

just i cant get my box to crash to test it

[punisher]

funny u say that digi i been working on a new autocrash submit that green screens vix and sends a crash log to me

just i cant get my box to crash to test it

Download a plugin u knw will crash the box

[witchy]

, every reference to any receiver other than the one it was running on was removed or edited out, the green screen was rewritten, with a little of my twisted humour added, just for fun

Now I want to make my TM800 crash just to see what you've written, lol

But the thing is too stable these days, any idea how I can guarantee a green screen?

[Rob van der Does]

Just doing a search, and there are loads of trademarks for enigma, and even some enigma II trademarks... So, I can't really see this going far...

That's no problem: DM's registration only applies to the name Enigme in use in the same branch.
Jewellery/bread/ice-cream/whatever can all use that name, as far as DM is concerned.

In the meantime:
1- It took VU+ only a couple of days to remove all "forbidden" naming from their devices (look at the last version of their image: 5.8 f): no harm done;
2- DM provided their competitors a lot of free publicity by acting like this;
3- DM now clearly shows to be afraid for their competitors. And mind you: those competitors only stepped into a wide gap in the market created by Mr. DM himself! Whereas DM was the only supplier in the E1-era, now the situation has changed dramatically. And of course: every VU+ or ET-receiver sold, is a DM not sold!

All in all: DM has not done any harm to any competitor by going to court. And maybe even the opposite is the case.

[Larry-G]

That's no problem: DM's registration only applies to the name Enigme in use in the same branch.
Jewellery/bread/ice-cream/whatever can all use that name, as far as DM is concerned.

In the meantime:
1- It took VU+ only a couple of days to remove all "forbidden" naming from their devices (look at the last version of their image: 5.8 f): no harm done;
2- DM provided their competitors a lot of free publicity by acting like this;
3- DM now clearly shows to be afraid for their competitors. And mind you: those competitors only stepped into a wide gap in the market created by Mr. DM himself! Whereas DM was the only supplier in the E1-era, now the situation has changed dramatically. And of course: every VU+ or ET-receiver sold, is a DM not sold!

All in all: DM has not done any harm to any competitor by going to court. And maybe even the opposite is the case.

yes i absolutely agree, DM has only harmed them selves with this action and handed a massive amount of free advertisement and publicity to its rivals.

[digidude]

Now I want to make my TM800 crash just to see what you've written, lol

But the thing is too stable these days, any idea how I can guarantee a green screen?

It says something along the lines of (only on DW images)

'Your TM800HD has run into a problem (AGAIN) and will attempt to email this crash report to crashlog at tm800hd.co.uk (!!changed on purpose so bots dont find it lol) but that wont work either

it then lists all the usual junk, and goes on to say

....as a last resort ill try dumping a bit of code, and hop this doesnt crash.

But you just know im going to crash and completley restart, or not do anything at all, so go and make a cuppa, and if im still green when you get back, be a sweetie and turn me off and back on will ya ;-)'

i changed it a few times, in each image but that was the general jist of it lol

[terrorman]

dreambox for over 2 years and no longer is a dream, now is a company of nightmares, welcome NightmaresBox

perhaps now is the time to think about a new OS Free Linux using all the latest technology, perhaps now you wake up the beast in us all, enigma2 was nice, but what comes after is better, start working now.

Always free OpenEmbedded

[Zartmy]

Whatever happened with this injunction, did they go to court with Vu+ or?

[portbhoy]

Opensource was supposed to set us all free all it's done is keep the courts busy as with Google, Samsung, Apple, Dream Multimedia and Vu to name but a few quite funny when you think about it

[Larry-G]

Whatever happened with this injunction, did they go to court with Vu+ or?

well the name Enigma 2 is now copyrighted to dream multimedia so no one other manufacturer is allowed to advertise or use the enigma 2 brand name, DMM have now also decided that their next installment lets call it enigma 3 for arguments sake is going to be closed off so no one else can use it for development purposes. as for any thing else i'm not sure, i think the case is still ongoing.

[Zartmy]

I would have thought everyone just forked off a GPL2 version, rebranded it and worked on that instead and leave DMM to its destiny?

Reason I am asking is if im gonna go the trouble to fix the swedish translation in enigma2 who am i contributing to? What branch of enigma2 is VIX using for example?

[Zartmy]

Opensource was supposed to set us all free all it's done is keep the courts busy as with Google, Samsung, Apple, Dream Multimedia and Vu to name but a few quite funny when you think about it

I dont see why you comparing Google, Samsung and Apple with this case. Completly different subject, thoose are not about opensource - closest thing is software patents (which btw sucks big time).

[Rob van der Does]

I would have thought everyone just forked off a GPL2 version, re-branded it and worked on that instead and leave DMM to its destiny?
What branch of enigma2 is VIX using for example?

That is exactly what has been done. This leaves Dream with a very small number of contributors, which indeed shows in the lack of (serious) development.
As for ViX: as you know this is PLi-based. And PLi forked Enigma2 ages ago, going their own development route (and leaving Dream and Dream based images) far behind.

Reason I am asking is if I'm gonna go the trouble to fix the Swedish translation in enigma2 who am I contributing to?

Sorry, I fail to see how you could get into trouble with that. You are not distributing any software, are you?
You only contribute to an isolated file within open source software. So please: keep on he good work!

[Zartmy]

Sorry, I fail to see how you could get into trouble with that. You are not distributing any software, are you?
You only contribute to an isolated file within open source software. So please: keep on he good work!

I expressed myself wrong, what I meant to say was i dont want my contribution to end up helping Dream Multimedia. But if they run closed source now they cant use our translations, they would need to GPL there code then - right ?