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    Quote Originally Posted by brundlefly View Post
    too be honest this was done years and years ago when vm was known as telewest/blueyonder days of dial up internet, both lines are active as i have VM broadband with them, one line went into one room and another into another, basically it is still one line coming in from the main box outside but split into two by a splitter that they used years ago, now ive split one of those two lines into two again, and im thinking of splitting the other into two as well...my SNR on VM is around 69% at the moment so far ive split the line 3 times, having 2 cable tuners , seperate boxes and superhub, i may add two additional cable tuners, one to each box, thus making 5 connections...from 1 line coming in...im sure its gonna have some effect on signal....lol
    every 1->2 splitter has a damping of 4 - 6 dB (depending on quality).
    When you have 3 splitter you have signal loss 12 - 18 dB . That's a lot.
    You better replace the old stuff. Nowadays there is a lot interference of 4G. Old cable and old splitters are not good anymore.

    The situation I have. 1 main lead into a line amplifier (max 25dB). After the line amplifier I have a 12 output divider (most people have 4 or 6 output). The first output lead has a damping of -12.5 dB , the last one -24 dB.
    I tuned my amplifier so that the signal output of the last (-24dB) has the same level as the main lead.
    The outputs with less damping (-12.5, -13.5, -14.5 .....) I use for the longest cables in my house (to bedrooms) and the outputs with the highest damping (.....-23, -24) I use for the shortest cables. This way I have (almost) in every room the same signal level as the main lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilian View Post
    The loop cable they provide is F type, not RF Type. In any case any loop cables supplied by manufacturers are not normally that great, I'd recommend you make your own of buy some good quality RF loop cables.
    Oh I thought the f type connectors were adequate for cable looping. Is this not the case?
    Also you mentioned that you could buy good quality RF cables. You don't specify where you can get these from. Any websites or links. Do wos sell any?

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    The choice of connectors depends on the tuner type - typically Satellite tuners are F connector type, and Cable / Terrestrial tuners use Belling-Lee (sometimes called PAL RF connectors), this is not set in stone however and some Cable tuners do use F connectors. Your choice of cable depends on your receiver or tuner type.
    What Sicilian meant was that the loop cables supplied by the manufacturers are in general F-type for satellite tuners and are not the best quality.
    As some of us said in a previous post, it is very easy to make up your own cables using plugs and cable which can be obtained from any local TV antenna dealer - even the likes of Maplin or B&Q (if that's all you have).

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    Some examples of coax connectors.
    The one with white cap is bad. Don't use them anymore.
    The 'silver' one is better, but not good enough.
    The one with big belly is good.
    The one standing up is also good. I prefer this one.
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    Was thinking about getting one of these

    Quote Originally Posted by nsw9154 View Post
    I made my own loop cables using RG6 sat cable and good quality F connecters bought from sponsors, and sat to cable connectors - male/female bought from flee-bay

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    Some examples of coax connectors.
    The one with white cap is bad. Don't use them anymore.
    The 'silver' one is better, but not good enough.
    The one with big belly is good.
    The one standing up is also good. I prefer this one.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001...ZRY0MNFMJ0FC15

    For my Mut@nt HD2400 to work as a second cable tuner.

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    Looks like what nsw has made but just longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsw9154 View Post
    I have 4 cable tuners fitted to my Mutant not 2 and I only have 1 cable feed connected to tuner 1 then looped through to tuner 2 - then tuner 2 is looped through to tuner 3 and tuner 3 is looped through to tuner 4 and like I said previously the Mutant is working perfect with just 1 cable feed, I have also tried connecting 2 cable feeds and the end result was the same as with just the 1
    one other point do not forget to Enable all your cable tuners and set them to Virgin UK

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    What kind of cable feed socket ( I doubt that's the correct term) does the Mut@nt have mate? Is it the screw in kind, or is it similar to a terrestrial ariel socket you use to get on video recorders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    So it's the ariel type connection, as opposed to the screw in, satellite LNB connection? Thanks for that mate.

    Do you know if the VU+ Duo cable receivers use Samsung tuners?

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    Does the Mutant come packaged with the loop cable that is for the cable tuners or is it the F connector type for sat tuners?

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    Pretty sure you are asking what type of connection does the hybrid tuner have on the mutant.

    http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/...2-tuner-module

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    Pretty sure you are asking what type of connection does the hybrid tuner have on the mutant.

    http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/...2-tuner-module
    So it's the RF aerial type.

    I just need these two right?

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    Yes, it has the Belling-Lee connector. Yes, you need the items you linked to.

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