there isnt any solution for this hard problem , yet ?
there isnt any solution for this hard problem , yet ?
Yes ... do not take the battery out! tbh, how many people would take the battery out? Would you cross the road in front of a truck if you were told that doing so would kill you? No. So, why would you disconnect the battery? They've said that before the life of the battery is out (likely to be around 3 years minimum I would say), they will release a solution... So, wait until then. Don't mess around with it, and if there are genuinely any problems related to this without messing with the battery, we would've heard about it by now!
It's the same sort of bios battery that a normal PC uses. I have seen them last as long as 10 years but also as little as a year. The idea of the battery is to allow the saving of the settings on devices e.g the bios settings on a PC. I is not mean't to actually store and maintain the bios. The batteries in those little holders are designed with easy replacement in mind - so when the battery dies you can simply replace it and reset your bios settings. Having it actually maintain the chip information (bios) is frankly ridiculous.
I must also admit if I had known this I would have gone down the Vu Duo route rather than the CT9000
Mate the new trends have the battery glued in place with a hot melt glue gun so if yr stupid enough to physically scrape the glue off and remove he battery then you deserve the box to die on you
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So, I take it, the new bootloader with UBIFS does not help at all here?
UBIFS does not keep indices in memory but rather on flash, but it is probably stupid to hope that those indices were kept by the battery previously..
Those indices are probably when flash memory device is mounted.
I think we heard here that this time bomb is already exploding - someone suddenly was not able to boot at all, black screen.
A faulty battery may last much shorter, or a (almost not) faulty circuit drawing more current, or a faulty contact may develop because of oxidation.
I am getting this box today, so not very pleasant thoughts.
Last edited by parkher; 19-09-11 at 16:12.
You can always send it back under the distant selling act and get a refund and buy a different box if you are really worried about future problems see link and the The cooling-off period and cancellations
plus you do get a manufactures 12 months warranty
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Last edited by bassethound; 19-09-11 at 19:22.
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Anyway, I already got Clarke Tech ET-9000 an hour ago, flashed the UBIFS bootloader and then the latest VIX image.
It is still working
So now I have both Vu+ Duo and ET-9000, updating my signature
Turns, out, I could have orderer either Xtrend or Clarke, both were available. As I did not specify this point, they brought Clarke to me.
Clarke was cheaper. Who knows, perhaps Xtrend already has a new hardware revision, like without that battery?
I just hope it will be hopelessly out-of-date and thrown away before it is dead because of that stupid battery.
I have no hope it will die before the warranty period ends.
And I have not much hope Xtrent or Clarke will provide a "software solution".
Last edited by parkher; 19-09-11 at 19:22.
On the plus side the only people who have had problems with the battery so far are the ones who foolishly removed the battery
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If you are that unhappy with the units design, why not simply return it in exchange for another unit?
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UK is not bound by that
by law in the UK its 12 months and any more is manufacturer or retailer discretion
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I think his confusing it with reasonable life span, as you can still get repairs done depending on price and when it goes faulty after the 12 months.
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I have given this a little thought & have a couple of *possible* untested solutions.
Both idea's would be needed to be undertaken by someone who has some knowledge on electronics so NOT to electrocute themselves, but tbh, if u dont know what your doing, you shouldn't be considering any of this anyway I have left out the obvious as this isnt a tutorial, just a theory.
First idea>
It *might* be possible to change the cell if the unit is fully powered and in operation as the Bios should be at this point buffered into memory. After changing of the cell, the bufferd Bios *may* be then written back to the bios during the shutdown of the O/S
Second Idea>
Assuming the button cell within the unit is 3v, an SMD Trimming Pot could be soldered between positive side of the cell & the bios IC. A second SMD Trimming Pot connected to two AA 1.5v cells could then be placed onto the Positive side of Bios IC.
Using a multimetre to watch the voltage, u could reduce the first pots voltage whilst increasing the second pots voltage, thus transferring the necessary 3v to a temporary backup.
Once the backup cells are in place, the old 3v button cell can be removed safely & exchanged for new. A reverse of the proceedure above is all that is needed to finish off the cell exchange and bring your new cell online.
This maybe possible to do all from a single pot, but for explanational purposes i have chosen to use two pots.