thanks I have tried to understand the diagram in post 7, it seems to suggest that the wire coming directly from the motorised dish may not be able to be connected straight into the diseq switch as powering the motor may not be possible this way, so another cable would have to be run from the lnb back to the diseq switch instead, owing to the big distance my receiver is from the motorised dish this may be unrealistic for now. Many thanks for everyones help on this.