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    Hi Huevos - with the 2/3 and 5/6 I presume you mean the FEC setting? That's odd, because
    11426 V 27500 5/6
    12148 H 27500 5/6
    are on the UK beam, have the same SR and 5/6 FEC and they download with no problem. See what I mean about a puzzle ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
    Hi Huevos - with the 2/3 and 5/6 I presume you mean the FEC setting? That's odd, because
    11426 V 27500 5/6
    12148 H 27500 5/6
    are on the UK beam, have the same SR and 5/6 FEC and they download with no problem. See what I mean about a puzzle ?
    These are on 2E which is much better situated than 2F/2G beams - I can pick up 11426V with no issue - the rest are either dead or die during the afternoon.
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    May I ask what "download" in this thread means?

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    Even on the same beam transponders may have different strengths. Its also possible the dish is slightly out of alignment
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    With a 1.5m dish the beamwidth is quite narrow, so it needs accurate pointing. I'm not sure how far apart 2E, 2F and 2G are in regard to orbital location, but I assume they are close. I recall when Eurobird was at 28.5 and the various Astra birds were at 28.2, I used to see quite a difference in SNR depending on which satellite I peaked when I had a 1.1m dish. This not be relevant nowadays if the Astra birds are co-located, but @ronand's suggestion is worth investigation.
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    The UK spot beams are different between the different satellites - so for me 2E is OK, 2F is perhaps OK around 10.00 -> 15.00, and 2G is not there!
    Last edited by twol; 23-07-19 at 13:43.
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    Good old Wikipedia says that 2G is located at the previous Eurobird location of 28.5. But that doesn't address the OP's issue which is with Quest on 2E
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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    May I ask what "download" in this thread means?
    Sorry, I don't know what else to call it. With download, I mean get the channels into my VU+ by selecting the frequency etc then pressing "scan".

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    Quote Originally Posted by fat-tony View Post
    Good old Wikipedia says that 2G is located at the previous Eurobird location of 28.5. But that doesn't address the OP's issue which is with Quest on 2E
    Tony, that is very interesting. And I wonder whether it may be drifting a bit up and down. You see 3 weeks ago I could still get all the Quests despite the fact that the elevation angle of our dish had dropped downwards a tad during a storm in February. My husband corrected it (to 100% on other Astra channels) the day before I began this sorry saga. So it looks like that particular satellite is a tad "lower down" than the others.
    However 0.3 of a degree is still a few numbers different on our Superjack positioner so I could set up 28.5 as a separate satellite and try that once the new LNB is here (the shop only had a strange tiny one with no box and no datasheet, so I have told them to order two Universals for me, one to use and one as a spare).

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    Anyone having signal problems on Astra 28° transponders 11627 V 22000 5/6, and 11671 H 23000 2/3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by malcolmp View Post
    Anyone having signal problems on Astra 28° transponders 11627 V 22000 5/6, and 11671 H 23000 2/3?
    My mistake, should be 11627 V and 11641 H.
    Gigablue UHD UE4K (Openvix)
    80 cm 2 Universal LNBs (Hot Bird, Astra 19°) to DiSEqC then to Gigablue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
    Tony, that is very interesting. And I wonder whether it may be drifting a bit up and down. You see 3 weeks ago I could still get all the Quests despite the fact that the elevation angle of our dish had dropped downwards a tad during a storm in February. My husband corrected it (to 100% on other Astra channels) the day before I began this sorry saga. So it looks like that particular satellite is a tad "lower down" than the others.
    However 0.3 of a degree is still a few numbers different on our Superjack positioner so I could set up 28.5 as a separate satellite and try that once the new LNB is here (the shop only had a strange tiny one with no box and no datasheet, so I have told them to order two Universals for me, one to use and one as a spare).
    You could be correct, these satellites do wander a little bit .. there is a site (forgotten which) where you can monitor the changes over the year
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
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    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
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    We had a hell of a storm with hurricane strength winds yesterday evening, the dish was wobbling around 2-3 cm in the wind, but in the evening we still had a very strong signal, so we didn't changed anything.
    However, without changing the position of the dish, and without the new LNB (which we don't have yet anyway) I just tried - for the umpteenth time and just for the hell of it - to see whether I could get 12382H.
    And although the signal on that frequency is only 45-48% - I NOW HAVE MY DMAX AND QUEST CHANNELS BACK AGAIN !
    I have no idea why. Maybe the satellite position has been corrected, maybe Zeus took pity on me and adjusted the dish during the storm he sent, who knows ? I am thrilled to bits.
    I want to thank everyone for their suggestions and help since this saga began. I have copied all your useful replies into a text file, so I can consult it next time I have a similar problem which may indeed be caused by those in the suggestions.
    Another donation is in the offing

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    @Helvetica - it is worth experimenting with your positioner to tweak the settings for Astra 2E, 2F and 2G. If Wikipedia is correct and 2G is actually located at 28.5 and the others located at 28.2 it may be better for you to make a specific setting for it and to also maximise the signals on 28.2 separately. Does your superjack positioner use USALS to calculate the dish pointing or is it pre-set using Diseqc on a separate controller from your actual receiver? I have no experience of using such a large dish/positioner - my biggest dish was 1.1m and was driven by a conventional H-H motor controlled by USALS from my receivers. With a big dish (relatively speaking) like yours, you need accurate positioning.
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