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Thread: Using 6 tuners, most channels not viewable

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    Ojustaboo

    Using 6 tuners, most channels not viewable

    Hi all

    For the first (and very rare) time, I'm currently using 6 tuners at once.

    I have the 8 UNicable tuners as shown in the attached pics (plus another tuner on a motorised dish which wont be pointing to 28.2)

    I wanted to watch something else, and 9 out of 10 channels I try to watch say no tuner. I thought with these 8 tuners, as long as at least one was free, i could watch any other channel I wanted?

    Thanks

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    You’ve setup your Unicable II/JESS LNB correctly?


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    You've posted pictures of the tuner overview. You need to take screenshots of the individual tuner configuration.

    May I suggest you use the guide in my signature to take the screenshots.

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    Looking at them, tuner C - H are connected to Tuner A, Tuner B says it's not connected. I presume this is where the problem is, although even if Tuner b is at fault, that should have left me with 7 tuners and was only recording from 6?

    here's the pics

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    GT-Sat GT-dLNB1DY has only a single output. Have you split the feed to tuner B?
    If not, it needs to be connected to tuner A.

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    Going by your screenshots. I'd do the following:

    1) Tuner A > Set to USAL's selecting satellites and exclude Astra 28.2.
    2) Tuner B > Advanced unicable, not connected Astra 28.2.
    3) Rest of the tuners Advanced unicable connect to Tuner B.

    Make sure each unicable tuner is assigned a userband.
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    Thanks. Can't play now as it's recording.

    I'll try what Sicillian suggests tomorrow (presuming it lets me choose the extra tuner as Tuner A).

    I presume the way I had Tuner B set confused things, as one of the 6 things I had recording also failed to record anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ojustaboo View Post
    Thanks. Can't play now as it's recording.

    I'll try what Sicillian suggests tomorrow (presuming it lets me choose the extra tuner as Tuner A).

    I presume the way I had Tuner B set confused things, as one of the 6 things I had recording also failed to record anything.
    Make sure you connect the motor feed to Tuner A and Unicable feed to Tuner B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilian View Post
    Make sure you connect the motor feed to Tuner A and Unicable feed to Tuner B.
    OK, I'm going to set it up as you suggest.

    Looking at the existing cabling, I had Unicable from fixed dish, going to splitter and had two cables going to both Tuner A and Tuner B. That's why when I initially set it up, Tuner B said not connected (I forgot I did this, memory like a sieve) , and motorised dish going to Tuner C.

    I'll give what you suggest a try, but don't understand why it wouldn't work with the way I initially set it up.

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    Sorry, I've just re-looked at your screenshots.

    Tuner I should be UASLS.

    Connect Single unicable to Tuner A, then connect B to H to Tuner A via advanced settings, settings a seperate USER band to each tuner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilian View Post
    Sorry, I've just re-looked at your screenshots.

    Tuner I should be UASLS.

    Connect Single unicable to Tuner A, then connect B to H to Tuner A via advanced settings, settings a seperate USER band to each tuner.

    Thanks, now recording 7 channels at once and can watch any other

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    hmm, it could be coincidence, but for some reason both ITV HD and bbc4 HD now look like this (all other channels appear fine), they were fine yesterday. Maybe it's a glitch somewhere else and not my boxes problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ojustaboo View Post
    hmm, it could be coincidence, but for some reason both ITV HD and bbc4 HD now look like this (all other channels appear fine), they were fine yesterday. Maybe it's a glitch somewhere else and not my boxes problem?

    1_0_19_5168_810_2_11A0000_0_0_0_20190307211550.jpg
    Are you getting that without any recordings? If so looks like a signal issue. Check the LNB Skew and dish alignment. Check connectors etc... Make sure each FBC tuner has its own user band assigned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilian View Post
    Are you getting that without any recordings? If so looks like a signal issue. Check the LNB Skew and dish alignment. Check connectors etc... Make sure each FBC tuner has its own user band assigned.
    Yes without recordings, seems OK today, mind you it was very windy last night, then again it often is on the east coast

    It might also explain why the other night one of the 6 recordings didn't record anything.

    Will dig out the ladder and play, but my cheap meter doesn't work with this LNB, will have to temp put spare normal one in
    Last edited by Ojustaboo; 08-03-19 at 11:54.

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    Checked the dish today. Before I altered it, the SNR for ITV HD was 54 (this was the worst channel) best I managed to get it was 69/70.

    It was the skew. The dish appears to be spot on, in that if I lean on the right or left or top, the SNR drops.

    Hopefully this will fix it.

    AGC was and still is 80.

    Most are probably aware, if you have an Android phone, there's an app called Enigma 2. In it's setup, put your IP address and root password. Then press the apps power button, and it displays the sat box "settings/Tuner Config/Signal finder" page on your phone, meaning you can easily adjust the dish/LNB just using your phone (note, it wont work if you leave your sat box on the signal finder page, have to be out of the menu on the actual box, then this app works perfectly)
    Last edited by Ojustaboo; 09-03-19 at 22:24.

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