Guys just to let you know,I am very well known on a few forums,I have covered most boxes and done backup builds for most with a great amount of help to others,Getting a bit fed up with the one forum as its looking a bit tired,Please let me know if you would like me to bring some help here as i have been buying quite a few new boxes off the forum sponsor .My user name is the same on all the forums i am on,I would never say out of respect about another forum,Check out what i have ongoing,The other forum is TK and if you would like it i would be happy to come aboard and share my latest backup builds of the Extrend ET 8500 and it is being used on many boxes without any issues what so ever,Please mods if any rules broken please correct it cheers les