ABM: How to add new providers: Canal Digital Nordic

[dbgurudk]

Hi Folks,

Want to add nordic providers from 1W and 5E.

Any guides on how to du this?

Thanks in advance.

[dbgurudk]

how do i add support for providers on 1west and 5east?

[Huevos]

First we need details of the provider and what the home transponder they use is. And a channel list.

[dbgurudk]

First we need details of the provider and what the home transponder they use is. And a channel list.

Hi Huevos,

Thanks for you reply.

I'm totally new to this, so plesa help me on my way.

The providers is Canal Digital and Viasat.

How do I find the "home" transponder?

Is it it a complete channel list from the scanning?

Thanks in advance.

[abu baniaz]

Channel lists is as per the list on an official receiver. Not one made up by someone or scanned on a third party receiver.

[dbgurudk]

How du you want the channel list presented? Picture or spreadsheet?

[abu baniaz]

Whatever is easiest for you. Must be legible. Must be from official receiver.

That is only one aspect though.

[dbgurudk]

I wonder if listings from http://www.satellite-calculations.co...ency_lists.htm is good enough?

Here there are list for both HD boxes and SD boxes and for the different contries Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland for Canal Digital and baltic contries in addition for Viasat
Ca**l D**ital HD http://www.satellite-calculations.co...List.htm?MPEG4
Ca**l D**ital SD http://www.satellite-calculations.co...List.htm?MPEG2
Via**t HD NOT RELEVANT SINCE CARDS ARE PAIRED TO ORIGINAL RECEIVER http://www.satellite-calculations.co...sat_HD_dan.htm
Via**t SD http://www.satellite-calculations.co...sat_SD_dan.htm

[abu baniaz]

Best way is to look at the the existing xml files. You can the adapt to provider you are wanting to add.

As mentioned above, the details of the home transponder are required. For some providers, the data is on all transponders so this may not be necessary. If there is an EPG channel on the officail receiver, that may be a possible option.

You then need to check what protocol it uses.

[dbgurudk]

How do I translate these taken from Lyngsat.com

11977 V
tp B14

Nordic BSS
51

DVB-S
SR 27500
FEC 3/4

to the xml-file below

orbital_position="192"
frequency="12515000"
symbol_rate="22000000"
polarization="0"
fec_inner="3"
inversion="2"
system="0"
modulation="1"
roll_off="0"
pilot="2"
nit_pid="0x384"
nit_current_table_id="0xbc"
nit_other_table_id="0x00"
fastscan_pid="0x384"
fastscan_table_id="0xbd"

how do I specify orbital_position for 1 west? -010?

Where do I find the values for
nit_pid="0x384"
nit_current_table_id
nit_other_table_id
fastscan_pid
fastscan_table_id

Thanks in advance.

[abu baniaz]

this is what I tried for 4.8 east.
Don't think it is quite right, but you do get chanenls.

<provider>
    <name>nordic</name>
    <streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
    <protocol>nolcn</protocol>
    <namespace>0x00300000</namespace>
    <transponder
        orbital_position="48"
        frequency="11727000"
        symbol_rate="27500000"
        polarization="0"
        fec_inner="0"
        inversion="2"
        system="0"
        modulation="1"
        roll_off="0"
        pilot="2"
    />
    <sections>
        <section number="1">nordic test</section>
    </sections>
    <servicehacks>
<! [CDATA[
]=]=>
    </servicehacks>
</provider>

[dbgurudk]

Hi Abu,

Is there some documentation to what the different tags in the XML is doing?

When I scanned it found al lot of channels. Good :-)

They were groud into ALL, HD, FTA HD and FTA. What about SD? I know they all fell into ALL :-)

In the protocol you write nolcn, what does this mean? in some it says fastscan and other it say sky.

How Do I specify the orbital_position for 0,8 west?

thanks in advance

[Huevos]

They were groud into ALL, HD, FTA HD and FTA. What about SD? I know they all fell into ALL :-)

There is no SD only bouquet. Why would anyone want that? Some people just want to watch FTA channels. Some people just want to watch HD channels. Are there people that just want to watch SD channels? As far as I see it SD channels are a fallback for when there is no HD version or the HD version is encrypted.

In the protocol you write nolcn, what does this mean? in some it says fastscan and other it say sky.

Channel numbering. Providers list their channels in some sort of logical order. Channel numbers usually correspond to the same channel for years even though new channels come and go. This is called Logical Channel Number or LCN. There is a standard way this is done, written into the DVB standard. If channel numbering is done according to the standard use "lcn" protocol. Other "clever" providers choose not to follow the standard, and make up their own way of transmitting the LCN. Each time a provider makes up a new "clever" way to do this we need to write some new code to read the LCN from the new, user defined descriptor (if we can find it). This is what the various protocols are for. And sometimes the LCN is so obfuscated in the DVB tables the we aren't "clever" enough to find it so then we have to use "nolcn" protocol and come up with a system for sorting the channels of that provider into some sort of logical order.

How Do I specify the orbital_position for 0,8 west?

You count round from 0.0E in tenths of a degree, eg.
(360 * 10) - (0.8 * 10) = 3600 - 8 = 3592

[dbgurudk]

First we need details of the provider and what the home transponder they use is. And a channel list.

Hi Huevos,

The following is only true for Denmark. Sweden, Norway, Finland etc. have other listst.

This link is to Viasat with the chennel number for both their SD and HD Channels.
https://www.viasat.dk/kundeservice/p...ensliste/total
Remember HD Channels can only be viewed with official HD STB

For canal digital om 0,8 west the channel list can be found via this link https://www.canaldigital.dk/Global/p...ste_folder.pdf

[dbgurudk]

<provider>
    <name>Canal Digital</name>
    <streamtype>dvbs</streamtype>
    <protocol>nolcn</protocol>
    <namespace>0x00300000</namespace>
    <transponder
        orbital_position="3592"
	frequency="10778000" 
	symbol_rate="24500000" 
	polarization="0" 
	fec_inner="5" 
	system="0" 
	modulation="1"
	inversion="2"
        roll_off="0"
        pilot="2"
    />
	<sections>
		<section number="2">Canal Digital</section>
	</sections>
	<servicehacks>
<![CDATA[
]]>
	</servicehacks>
</provider>

I have tried the following for 0,8 west ang gets a AutoBouquetsMaker Cannot read data pop-up during scan. Any ideas?