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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    There are tweaks which seem to be missing completely. There is no longer any way to set the background colour for an application window (there wasn't in Win8.1 either). It's now all based on Themes - which don't let you set much at all.
    Also - it now wants to leave window title bars the same colour as the window background! OK if you run applications in full-screen mode all of the time (as with, say, a 'phone or tablet) but is rather useless for a desktop with a large (24"+) screen where you want to actually see multiple applications (with overlapping windows) all at the same time, and now can't visually separate them.

    If only the windows could be as configurable as they are in a Linux desktop....and the annoying thing is that all of the capability is there (including the ability to have the window with the keyboard focus not at the top of the window stack). But MS just doesn't supply anything to let you use this.
    Its available just google there are a few tutorials on the WEB
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    @birdman - if you want a bit of retro feel, you could try out classic shell. I believe it works well on Win 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fat-tony View Post
    @birdman - if you want a bit of retro feel, you could try out classic shell. I believe it works well on Win 10.
    Thanks, but it's only window borders, backgrounds and titlebars that I need to fix.
    I never had a problem with the lack of a Start Menu in Win8.1 - I just made a taskbar of the Programs directory (and still have it in Win10 - although the Start Menu there is much better).
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    Thanks, but it's only window borders, backgrounds and titlebars that I need to fix.
    I would indeed love to have something like the old classic windows back. In W8.1 it is already hard to see which window has focus (depending on theme/colours), and it has not improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    I would indeed love to have something like the old classic windows back. In W8.1 it is already hard to see which window has focus (depending on theme/colours), and it has not improved.
    I was fiddling a bit on Win10 and, at one point, I did get my active window borders to be green and inactive ones all red. Not sure what I'd done, and my next fiddle lost that functionality...
    I was only having a quick play - I'll be trying in earnest soon.

    What really annoys me is that it's obviously all possible underneath, but Microsoft is removing the ability from end users to configure the visual side as they wish to see it. It's my screen, why can't I set it as I wish to use it? It would appear to flout all regulations about accessibility for visual impairment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    I was fiddling a bit on Win10 and, at one point, I did get my active window borders to be green and inactive ones all red. Not sure what I'd done, and my next fiddle lost that functionality...
    I was only having a quick play - I'll be trying in earnest soon.

    What really annoys me is that it's obviously all possible underneath, but Microsoft is removing the ability from end users to configure the visual side as they wish to see it. It's my screen, why can't I set it as I wish to use it? It would appear to flout all regulations about accessibility for visual impairment.
    Dude, switch over to Linux and start customizing it until you have seen every color of pink. There's absolutely no need to put their product on your machine. Nobody is forcing you to use it either, you can buy it, get it for free or not.

    I bet after a few years when you are really good at modifying your Linux setup, you can even flash your HDD light in morse code to let you know which windows are active or inactive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocram View Post
    Dude, switch over to Linux and start customizing it until you have seen every color of pink. There's absolutely no need to put their product on your machine. Nobody is forcing you to use it either, you can buy it, get it for free or not.

    I bet after a few years when you are really good at modifying your Linux setup, you can even flash your HDD light in morse code to let you know which windows are active or inactive.
    Now if only Ubuntu could manage to support USB 3.0 I would possible agree, but typically 1 step forward 2 steps backwards .. even Microsoft manages to handle device support well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocram View Post
    Dude, switch over to Linux and start customizing it until you have seen every color of pink. There's absolutely no need to put their product on your machine. Nobody is forcing you to use it either, you can buy it, get it for free or not.
    No, you can't get it for free. You can get it pre-loaded onto a system. It's also not easy to get a laptop without getting Windows pre-loaded (and you'd be very hard pressed to get that cost back in the UK if you don't wish to run Windows).
    However, none of that is the issue. I'm just commenting on the fact that they are removing the ability for their users to improve their visual experience (and some of what they are removing is a legal/health&safety(?) requirement for VDUs in the workplace). The underlying ability is still all there in the OS - just no way to utilize it at the user level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    Thanks, but it's only window borders, backgrounds and titlebars that I need to fix.
    I never had a problem with the lack of a Start Menu in Win8.1 - I just made a taskbar of the Programs directory (and still have it in Win10 - although the Start Menu there is much better).
    Well they listened! The latest preview build 10525 (today) provides this facility. You just have to enable and off you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twol View Post
    Well they listened! The latest preview build 10525 (today) provides this facility. You just have to enable and off you go.
    I noticed that this was in the Preview. I don't run them, so hope it will migrate to an update - soon.
    Now they just need to fix the idiotic inability to mark an Ethernet connexion as metered (since a tethered mobile 'phone shows up as an Ethernet connexion - so Windows10 may decide to download a few hundred MB of update using it).
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