Hello Guest, if you are reading this it means you have not registered yet. Please take a second, Click here to register, and in a few simple steps you will be able to enjoy our community and use our OpenViX support section.
Results 1 to 14 of 14

Thread: What tuners are used on mutant?

  1. #1
    twol's Avatar
    Title
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    8,438
    Thanks
    997
    Thanked 2,903 Times in 2,255 Posts

    What tuners are used on mutant?

    I would be interested in knowing whose tuners are used in the Mutant..... Also if the box supports SNR display on the 2nd Infobar.... And how fast theSNR takes to reach the maximum figure from switching to a channel.
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

  2. #2
    Sicilian's Avatar
    Title
    The Boss
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    29,652
    Thanks
    23,587
    Thanked 26,056 Times in 7,638 Posts
    Uses Samsung tuners, regards SNR check this evening.
    D I S C L A I M E R

    My right to post information is protected under the rights for freedom act. In all instances, information discussed here on my posts are either hypothetical in nature, out of general curiosity, common knowledge, public knowledge, or role-play. Any use of the collective descriptions and shared knowledge from any of my posts are at the sole discretion of the reader. I am not responsible for what you do with it!

    Please help keep OpenViX online, donate HERE.
    Rules can be found
    HERE
    Support our sponsor World-Of-Satellite
    HERE
    GIGABLUE UHD QUAD 4K, VU+ DUO 4K SE, ZGEMMA H7S, VU+ UNO 4K SE
    Triax 1.1m Powered by TM2600, Fixed 28.2 Zone 2 dish with GT-SAT Unicable





  3. The Following User Says Thank You to Sicilian For This Useful Post:

    twol (02-04-15)

  4. #3
    twol's Avatar
    Title
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    8,438
    Thanks
    997
    Thanked 2,903 Times in 2,255 Posts
    Thanks Sicilian, guessed they were Samsung, but interested to know if the Mutant crew have managed to write drivers that get them to react faster than others
    On fringe reception channels (like ITV HD for me) it can be a real pain - and leads to issues with obtaining lock or the system giving up before it can hold the signal.

    Obviously depend on the specific tuner, but on the older DVB-S2 Samsung plug in tuners I used to see anything from 3 -5 secs, but now seeing 5 - 8 seconds delay before stabilising on latest - this is a driver/tuner concern nothing to do with image Interestingly on board tuners (probably not Samsung) are pretty instantaneous.

    When the Samsung tuners crap out on say ITV HD, my Sky box is OK for much longer Can really spoil the football viewing switching from HD to SD!
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

  5. #4

    Title
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    4,684
    Thanks
    1,205
    Thanked 2,524 Times in 1,349 Posts
    i think its more or less instant the snr, but i will double check too
    Vu Ultimo4K, OpenViX 5.0, 8xdvb-c, 8xdvb-s2, 2xdvb-t2
    Vu Solo4K, OpenViX 5.0, 8xdvb-s2
    Dreambox DM900, OpenViX 5.0, 2xdvb-s2, 2xdvb-c/t2
    Terrestrial, Cable, Fixed 28.2e + Unicable2 LNB

  6. #5
    Cosmic Truth's Avatar
    Title
    Forum Supporter
    Donated Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    116
    Thanks
    72
    Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by twol View Post
    Thanks Sicilian, guessed they were Samsung, but interested to know if the Mutant crew have managed to write drivers that get them to react faster than others
    On fringe reception channels (like ITV HD for me) it can be a real pain - and leads to issues with obtaining lock or the system giving up before it can hold the signal
    .

    Obviously depend on the specific tuner, but on the older DVB-S2 Samsung plug in tuners I used to see anything from 3 -5 secs, but now seeing 5 - 8 seconds delay before stabilising on latest - this is a driver/tuner concern nothing to do with image Interestingly on board tuners (probably not Samsung) are pretty instantaneous.

    When the Samsung tuners crap out on say ITV HD, my Sky box is OK for much longer Can really spoil the football viewing switching from HD to SD!
    Is this cable, or satellite, tuners you're talking about twol?

    I have a Q5 cable receiver, and with some channels it takes ages for the channel to come through. I'm looking at getting a new receiver in the next week, or so, and I certainly don't want to wait a long time when I switch channels like I have to do with the Q5.

  7. #6
    twol's Avatar
    Title
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Posts
    8,438
    Thanks
    997
    Thanked 2,903 Times in 2,255 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Truth View Post
    Is this cable, or satellite, tuners you're talking about twol?

    I have a Q5 cable receiver, and with some channels it takes ages for the channel to come through. I'm looking at getting a new receiver in the next week, or so, and I certainly don't want to wait a long time when I switch channels like I have to do with the Q5.
    I was talking about Sat tuners... But the problem I was seeing is apparently fixed today
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to twol For This Useful Post:

    Cosmic Truth (04-04-15)

  9. #7
    Cosmic Truth's Avatar
    Title
    Forum Supporter
    Donated Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    116
    Thanks
    72
    Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by twol View Post
    I was talking about Sat tuners... But the problem I was seeing is apparently fixed today
    Cheers twol.

  10. #8
    ccs's Avatar
    Title
    ViX Beta Tester
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    5,836
    Thanks
    554
    Thanked 1,277 Times in 1,089 Posts
    I'm assuming the Mut@nt HD2400 is similar to the Xtrend ET10000.
    I can't find a copy of the Mut@nt manual, but The Xtrend manual says...
    WARNING: DO NOT USE FOLLOWING COMBINATION:

    Tuner 1 : any tuner
    Tuner 2 : any tuner
    Tuner 3 : DVB-S2 tuner
    Tuner 4 : DVB-C tuner

    Tuner 1 : any tuner
    Tuner 2 : any tuner
    Tuner 3 : DVB-C
    Tuner 4 : DVB-C

    Any other combination is supported
    This is what is confusing me. Can I configure the Mut@nt with 4 DVB-T2 tuners, as I've seen somewhere else that only 3 are supported?
    The above warning suggests to me that 4 T2's are ok on the Xtrend.

    Thanks.

  11. #9
    Sicilian's Avatar
    Title
    The Boss
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    29,652
    Thanks
    23,587
    Thanked 26,056 Times in 7,638 Posts
    You can't used 4x T2 on either.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    D I S C L A I M E R

    My right to post information is protected under the rights for freedom act. In all instances, information discussed here on my posts are either hypothetical in nature, out of general curiosity, common knowledge, public knowledge, or role-play. Any use of the collective descriptions and shared knowledge from any of my posts are at the sole discretion of the reader. I am not responsible for what you do with it!

    Please help keep OpenViX online, donate HERE.
    Rules can be found
    HERE
    Support our sponsor World-Of-Satellite
    HERE
    GIGABLUE UHD QUAD 4K, VU+ DUO 4K SE, ZGEMMA H7S, VU+ UNO 4K SE
    Triax 1.1m Powered by TM2600, Fixed 28.2 Zone 2 dish with GT-SAT Unicable





  12. #10
    ccs's Avatar
    Title
    ViX Beta Tester
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    5,836
    Thanks
    554
    Thanked 1,277 Times in 1,089 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilian View Post
    You can't used 4x T2 on either.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Thanks for the reply, sorry it's taken a while to respond.

    I see WOS are now selling the Xtrend ET10000 with 4 x DVB-C-T-T2.

    Is this likely to work ok?

    http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/...ice&order=DESC

  13. #11
    Sicilian's Avatar
    Title
    The Boss
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    29,652
    Thanks
    23,587
    Thanked 26,056 Times in 7,638 Posts
    Yes, no issue using 4x dvb-c/t2 tuners, found issue is using 4x dvb-c tuner, using hybrid tuners should be fine.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    D I S C L A I M E R

    My right to post information is protected under the rights for freedom act. In all instances, information discussed here on my posts are either hypothetical in nature, out of general curiosity, common knowledge, public knowledge, or role-play. Any use of the collective descriptions and shared knowledge from any of my posts are at the sole discretion of the reader. I am not responsible for what you do with it!

    Please help keep OpenViX online, donate HERE.
    Rules can be found
    HERE
    Support our sponsor World-Of-Satellite
    HERE
    GIGABLUE UHD QUAD 4K, VU+ DUO 4K SE, ZGEMMA H7S, VU+ UNO 4K SE
    Triax 1.1m Powered by TM2600, Fixed 28.2 Zone 2 dish with GT-SAT Unicable





  14. #12
    nsw9154's Avatar
    Title
    V.I.P
    Donated Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Hartlepool
    Posts
    2,008
    Thanks
    409
    Thanked 458 Times in 373 Posts
    I think the issue with the 4 C/T2 Tuners is that No4 tuner has to be connected otherwise you receive no signal, I tried this when I first got my Mut@nt, I had it feeding in to No1 tuner then Looped to the other 3, if I took the loop off No4 the signal went off even though they where all connected and no matter what tuner I connected the feed to I still got no signal, so i physically disconnected tuner No4 and I was able to get a signal from the other 3 tuners no matter what tuner I plugged the feed cable to I got the signal so now I have the feed strait in to No4 tuner and loop them from that

  15. #13
    ccs's Avatar
    Title
    ViX Beta Tester
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Posts
    5,836
    Thanks
    554
    Thanked 1,277 Times in 1,089 Posts
    Thanks for the updates, looking good now.

  16. #14

    Title
    Forum Supporter
    Donated Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Posts
    600
    Thanks
    92
    Thanked 112 Times in 86 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by ccs View Post
    Thanks for the reply, sorry it's taken a while to respond.

    I see WOS are now selling the Xtrend ET10000 with 4 x DVB-C-T-T2.

    Is this likely to work ok?

    http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/...ice&order=DESC
    I have 4 x internal Si2169 plugin C/T2 tuners and 1 x Sundtek usb C/T2 tuner in my ET10000. No problem in Finnish network. Works fine. It would be possible to add another Sundtek if needed.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
This website uses cookies
We use cookies to store session information to facilitate remembering your login information, to allow you to save website preferences, to personalise content and ads, to provide social media features and to analyse our traffic. We also share information about your use of our site with our social media, advertising and analytics partners.