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    Well even at that I'm delighted the teams have and I think this is justified by the expectations and wishes of the image users who are requesting it
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    That is why I'm wondering why people would use this plugin, as dedicated and fine working mediaplayer are available.
    Imagine you're watching TV and want to watch a recording. Now instead of going to the movielist you go to applications, activate the XMBC-launcher, go to the desired functionality and do what you want to do. From now on you have no longer access to the box's e2-functionality (such as timers/EPG/TV), so if you want to you need to stop the playback, navigate to exit-XMBC and do what you want to do in E2.
    If, what I really expect in a system like XMBC, the frontend (tuners) would be supported, it would be a complete different story: then all PVR & mediaplayer functionality vould be done in XBMC.

    So again my question: what's the 'nice' thing about this limited XMBC plugin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiz View Post
    so this is not available for vu ultimo or vu uno right
    Correct: VU only supports this on the Solo2, DUO2 and Solo SE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    Nope, nothing mixed up; I was curious if this would be 'real XMBC', but lacking the interface to the frontend makes it quite useless IMHO.
    Just a mediaplayer-GUI; I can't imagine a team spending effort on that?
    The same as on the Sparks 2 (Android) satellite receiver. So the same huge limitation.

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    Looking forward to seeing it added. Seems big demand for it. Obviously not to everyone's taste and that's fine. But any image progress is good and to be welcomed
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    LOL, you read the workflow I wrote above? You think people are actually going to use it?

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    Going give you a simple answer here rob - - Yes.
    Don't see the point in trying to slate a feature and what people have spent long hours developing. I understand you don't like it and that's fine. But many others will. Personally think e2 has been crying out for a decent gui for local media like this for years. Remember it is only in beta yet Rob and will only improve over time
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    LOL, you read the workflow I wrote above? You think people are actually going to use it?
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    It's not about what I like or dislike. I'm trying to get a feeling for what people would want.
    And of course everybody uses a system in a different way.

    And yes, it is beta. But as there is no sign about the real difficult part, the support of the tuners, I have my doubts if that will ever come. Of course that's only guessing from my side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    It's not about what I like or dislike. I'm trying to get a feeling for what people would want.
    And of course everybody uses a system in a different way.

    And yes, it is beta. But as there is no sign about the real difficult part, the support of the tuners, I have my doubts if that will ever come. Of course that's only guessing from my side.
    The tuner support is of little importance to me but again everyone has a different opinion. As long as it can be used as a decent media player add on I'm happy
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    people will use it mainly for streaming movies tvshows & live sports rob not playing there own content like plex
    you can use the tuners if the pvr clients are built in although I wouldn't what's the point?
    its ok to use the pvr clients on a tv box to utilise the two boxes but I see this as 1 box does all
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    I don't know if you tried it already, but do you know how long it takes to exit the XMBC plugin and to revert to live-TV (or whatever).

    That really is my main concern. Using the XMBC now you get the look & feel as if you're using a complete system. But it isn't.
    And yes, I agree: having one integrated interface for all mediaplayer functionality is nice. But IMHO it comes at a high price.

    But maybe I'm wrong, and maybe VU is actually working on the PVR-end of XMBC. If that would be true, the story would be completely different. Then you would have a real choice between Enigma2 (which is now killed when entering XMBC, I'm not even sure if planned recordings will take place) and XMBC; that would be an interesting development, a real users choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    I don't know if you tried it already, but do you know how long it takes to exit the XMBC plugin and to revert to live-TV (or whatever).

    That really is my main concern. Using the XMBC now you get the look & feel as if you're using a complete system. But it isn't.
    And yes, I agree: having one integrated interface for all mediaplayer functionality is nice. But IMHO it comes at a high price.

    But maybe I'm wrong, and maybe VU is actually working on the PVR-end of XMBC. If that would be true, the story would be completely different. Then you would have a real choice between Enigma2 (which is now killed when entering XMBC, I'm not even sure if planned recordings will take place) and XMBC; that would be an interesting development, a real users choice.
    Just in the process of flashing VTi beta to my duo 2 to test. The main worry from what you describe rob would be if e2 was completely killed and planned recordings did not take place in background. I agree that would be pointless then. But if that wasn't the case then I would be happy to have it on my system.
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    I didn't really check that; after a short test I was so disappointed that I reverted to ViX right away
    But on the VTi forum it was described as such.
    What I did notice, was that during the time that XMBC was active there was neither FTP nor telnet.

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    I agree if its killing any set recordings it does seem pointless, however its in very early stages yet and I hope this would be address with further development if indeed it does

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    My own opinion would be to develop XBMC as a standalone OS alternative to E2 instead of a plugin. But that's just my opinion.

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