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    GT-Sat GT-S3DCSS24 SCR no signal

    HI ALL, Help needed, I have installed a new Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with a GT-Sat GT-S3DCSS24 LMB and a new VU+ Duo 4K SE. To cut a long story short I have pulled most of my hair out over the last few days trying to get the unicable part sorted.
    I currently have a 3m length of coax running from the legacy output of the LMB directly into the VU+ box (to reduce any connection issues), the receiver is running the latest firmware (6.4). the output from the legacy is very good with a signal of 79% and an AGC of 97% using transponder 11038V (pic 1 legacy settings.jpg)
    I then swapped the cable into the unicable output and set the receiver configuration as :-

    Config mode - Advanced
    Satellite - 28.2E Astra
    LNB - LNB 1
    Priority - Auto
    Type of LNB/device - SCR (Unicable/JESS)
    SCR (unicable/JESS) type - SCR (Unicable/JESS) LNB
    Model - GT-S3DCSS24
    Channel - User band1(0975)
    DiSEqC mode - none
    Force legacy signal stats - no
    (Image - model GT-SAT LMB.jpg)

    I also tried changing the Model to :-
    model - dLNB dHello

    the rest remains the same
    (Image - using @Hello.jpg)

    I have read a lot of posts about unicable configuration and followed the settings as posted in this forum, but I can not find where the fault is.
    I am not able to get a signal using unicable could anyone suggest anything to help.

    Thanks in advance Stephen
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    I am pretty sure that the LNB comes programmed in two varieties, one is for the Italian market. Note the word "or" at the bottom of the leaflet. One side of the leaflet has the frequencies used for the 24 SCR/user bands/channels, the other has the fewer frequencies used for the Italian market. Try the Italian option, the first user band is 1210 MHz instead of 975

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    Edit: Screenshots showing the GT sat models as well as just one tuner setup to illustrate the configuration.
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    Thank you I will try that.
    The piece of paper in the box is single sided with Userband-ID and Userband-Frq columns.
    1 - 975 Mhz
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    24 - 2125 Mhz.
    Thank you for the screenshot tip.

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    The Italian one only has 16 usable bands. But worth trying anyway.

    Sorry to ask, are you sure that you are connecting to the unicable output?

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    Hi Abu,
    Still nothing with the Italian model selected
    Do you think there might be a fault with the actual LNB?
    Does the box need a reboot to send the info to the LNB?
    Does it need time to react to any LNB changes?
    Sorry for the simple questions, I am lost now.
    Not getting any signal on any of the transponders.

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    yes, three legacy which work fine, one unicable.

    What has just come up on reboot after the channel, it is now asking "connected through another tuner"
    That was not there before.
    Last edited by StephenRadford; 27-12-23 at 21:08.

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    Can you post your settings. / etc/ enigma2 … sometimes when you flip between different setups it gets confused.
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Which slot is your FBC tuner in?
    I've had a look online and all the images of a single twin satellite FBC tuner show it in the Tuner B slot and you seem to be setting up Tuner A.
    I don't know if this makes a difference?

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    AX HD61 4K UHD Twin (test box)
    Vu+ Uno 4K SE
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    Zgemma H9 Twin
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    GT-Sat GT-S3DCSS24 Unicable II LNB
    GT-Sat GT-dLNB1-DY Unicable II LNB
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    please explain what you want to see and how do I get to it. It has been reset several times and not using any backup. If that helps
    Last edited by StephenRadford; 27-12-23 at 22:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willo3092 View Post
    Which slot is your FBC tuner in?
    I've had a look online and all the images of a single twin satellite FBC tuner show it in the Tuner B slot and you seem to be setting up Tuner A.
    I don't know if this makes a difference?

    VuTuners.jpg
    It is in second slot A

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    Please post a screenshot of Menu > Information > Devices. If possible, please also post a picture of the rear of the receiver showing the wires/tuners.
    Please do not mixup slots and tuners. No matter which slot in the motherboard the card/module is inserted into, the top physical input will be the lower letter. I have not had a problem with the tuner card being in motherboard socket A on my Duo 4k (not SE), but feel free to try inserting in motherboard socket B. If you have one tuner card, It will still be shown as Tuner A-H

    The settings file is located in /etc/enigma2. Transfer it to PC, you will have to zip it before you can upload it to forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenRadford View Post
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    please explain what you want to see and how do I get to it. It has been reset several times and not using any backup. If that helps
    in /etc/enigma2 directory on the box, there is a settings files.(/etc/enigma2/settings)
    If you can extract to a PC with Filezilla or another tool and post here, we can then see what the box has defined in the tuner settings compared to the menu setups etc
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    Please post a screenshot of Menu > Information > Devices. If possible, please also post a picture of the rear of the receiver showing the wires/tuners.
    Please do not mixup slots and tuners. No matter which slot in the motherboard the card/module is inserted into, the top physical input will be the lower letter. I have not had a problem with the tuner card being in motherboard socket A on my Duo 4k (not SE), but feel free to try inserting in motherboard socket B. If you have one tuner card, It will still be shown as Tuner A-H

    The settings file is located in /etc/enigma2. Transfer it to PC, you will have to zip it before you can upload it to forum.
    As requested, I think I am uploading the correct way, I am getting used to using forums.
    1 -Devices (screen shot)
    2 -images rear of receiver
    3 - zip file of enigma2 directory. (Iam not sure if this has worked correctly?)

    SETTINGS FILE
    config.misc.firstrun=False
    config.misc.initialchannelselection=False
    config.misc.languageselected=False
    config.misc.startCounter=2
    config.misc.SyncTimeUsing=ntp
    config.misc.videowizardenabled=False
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=975
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=282
    config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
    config.Nims.1.configMode=nothing
    config.osd.dst_height=576
    config.osd.dst_left=12
    config.osd.dst_top=0
    config.osd.dst_width=708
    config.osd.language=en_GB
    config.plugins.epgsearch.numorbpos=0
    config.softwareupdate.updatelastcheck=1703793223
    config.tv.lastroot=1:7:1:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:FROM BOUQUET "bouquets.tv" ORDER BY bouquet;
    config.unicable.unicableManufacturer=GT-SAT
    config.unicable.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.usage.date.compact=%-d %b
    config.usage.date.compressed=%-d%b
    config.usage.date.displayday=%a %-d %b
    config.version=53023
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    I've just fresh flashed my box and only set up tuners A & B and these are my tuners in the settings file:

    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.powerinserter=False
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=975
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=282
    config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.powerinserter=False
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1025
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=2
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
    config.Nims.1.advanced.sats=282
    config.Nims.1.configMode=advanced
    Willo
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    AX HD61 4K UHD Twin (test box)
    Vu+ Uno 4K SE
    Edision OS Mio 4K
    Zgemma H9 Twin
    Vu+ Zero 4K
    Vu+ Uno 4K
    GT-Sat GT-S3DCSS24 Unicable II LNB
    GT-Sat GT-dLNB1-DY Unicable II LNB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willo3092 View Post
    I've just fresh flashed my box and only set up tuners A & B and these are my tuners in the settings file:

    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.powerinserter=False
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=975
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=282
    config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.powerinserter=False
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1025
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=2
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
    config.Nims.1.advanced.sats=282
    config.Nims.1.configMode=advanced
    I have just reconfigured to A & B and got this, it looks like the two lines in BOLD are the difference. This line as it is false should not make a difference "config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.powerinserter=Fa lse"

    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=975
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
    config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
    config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=282
    config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.scrfrequency=1025
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=2
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= GT-SAT
    config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=GT-S3DCSS24
    config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.282.lnb=1
    config.Nims.1.advanced.sats=282
    config.Nims.1.advanced.unicableconnected=True
    config.Nims.1.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=0

    config.Nims.1.configMode=advanced

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