28.2E BBC regional channels going HD

[Joe_90]

I use ABM Sky London SD custom bouquet (with HD swap). BBC1 London HD is at position 101 and is as Sky/Freesat intended - the regional HD channel. The Freesat ABM bouquet also has BBC1 London HD at position 101 and has "channel removed" at position 106. No BBC1 SD regional service on Freesat. ABM seems ok to me, bot on Freesat and Sky - I don't worry about the BBC1 SD service which is going to disappear in any case.

[Huevos]

There are pictures attached to avoid the misunderstandings/confusions as well as logs. The change on post 18 works fine for me in my area.

So the choices are:

1) just delete 115 swap, or,
2) make it conditional for the areas that still need it.

My choice would be 1.

[abu baniaz]

I agree with your choice too. There is no way I am checking every region to conditionalise it. If we need to review it, people will need to add their debug log/show screenshots. Can you commit the change, I won't have a chance till the evening. If Brian or anyone else submits the pull request I can merge it in the phone after I wake up.

[Huevos]

I can't do it. I'm away.

[dsayers]

I can create a pull request if needed. Does BBC 2 swap need deleting aswel?

<channel number="102" with="115" conditional="'BBC Two' in service_hd['service_name']"/> <!-- BBC Two HD -->

[Joe_90]

I agree with your choice too. There is no way I am checking every region to conditionalise it. If we need to review it, people will need to add their debug log/show screenshots. Can you commit the change, I won't have a chance till the evening. If Brian or anyone else submits the pull request I can merge it in the phone after I wake up.

The final regions will be complete during the coming week and all BBC1 regions will be HD on 101, so is it worth it? Maybe just go for @Huevos's option 1? I just started up my old Humax Freesat HD receiver (set to London) and London HD is on 101, with a message on 106, saying "Channel moved - your region is now HD on 101". In the 900's are the regional BBC channels. Only a couple in the NE and SE are still on SD. There is a national BBC1 HD channel, but no national BBC1 SD channel available in the EPG/channel list (as this is a HD receiver in any case).

[dsayers]

Closed my pull request I don't think all regions have changed yet

North West Yorkshire has BBC one HD on 115 with no channel on 801

This screen shot is from sky TV guide online using North West Yorkshire HD

Screenshot_2023-02-17-10-45-49-24_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

[Joe_90]

The final regions including NW, NE, Yorkshire and Scotland due to changeover on Tuesday next ( 21st). That will complete the regional switch to HD.

[dsayers]

Maybe best leaving it till next week when all regions have changed

[abu baniaz]

I am inclined to change it. It has changed for most regions. For the regions that have not changed, 801 will be empty and the swap will not occur. Both 101 and 115 are in the same bouquet.

[BrianG61UK]

So the choices are:

1) just delete 115 swap, or,
2) make it conditional for the areas that still need it.

My choice would be 1.

Mine too.

I did it in the custommix file on my box a few days ago.

del customised["video"][115]	# Remove 115 which seems to be a duplicate of 801 at present

[Huevos]

The final regions including NW, NE, Yorkshire and Scotland due to changeover on Tuesday next ( 21st). That will complete the regional switch to HD.

My guess is the hi-band transponder will close.

[CRMS]

I've now got BBC1 South HD on 101, 106 is channel moved. 115 is ITV3 HD.
BBC1 South HD signal strength is not good - 43 - 48%. All other BBC channels are 63%+, including BBC1 HD on 972.
Slightly puzzled by the difference in signal strength.

[Huevos]

I've now got BBC1 South HD on 101, 106 is channel moved. 115 is ITV3 HD.
BBC1 South HD signal strength is not good - 43 - 48%. All other BBC channels are 63%+, including BBC1 HD on 972.
Slightly puzzled by the difference in signal strength.

Maybe your LNB/dish performs crap on hi-band. But anyway, if the picture is stable don't worry about it.

[CRMS]

Thanks. The picture/sound are breaking up.
Looking at other Hi-band services, Freesat UHD/4K demo at 12441 is at 84%. So that Hi-band is OK. But others on the BBC1 South frequency 12168 are much the same.
I'm using a GigaBlue Ultra Unicable SCR-LNB / 24 SCR and Triax 83cm dish.
Is there any simple check of LNB and dish I can do??