I think you guys need to come up with a different name then for physical tuners and non-physical tuners to avoid confusion. I wasn't confused but you seem to be confused about what I'm referring to. I was always referring to physical tuners and I said "I have 2 VU+ boxes which each have 2 twin FBC tuners (4 tuners on each box)". I thought that was pretty clear what I was referring to as I said the word "twin". When I said twin FBC tuners that is the name that World of Satellite calls them here: https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk...me=fbc%20tuner

What am I supposed to call the physical tuners if twin FBC tuner isn't the correct name? The non-physical tuners aren't the issue, it's the number of physical sat cable ports available on my dishes that's my issue.