I miss the blind scan which is not on the Octagon SF4008. They say its coming but is it? I will have to bite the bullet and mull over what to buy that has 4K with blind scan. Maybe I should have waited for the Gigablue 4K quad and spent the extra. Back to the computer with 3 windows open, Gigablue 4K, Dreambox 4K , VU+ 4K and compare them.