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Thread: Can vu+solo 4k be used with existing single cable and LNB with motor

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    Fancy seeing you here!

    I'll check it out, thanks . So will the switch in the link operate as I described?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    To get the most of it, you need a unicable LNB.

    I hope you realise that you will have viewing restrictions using a standard LNB.

    Unicable LNBs cannot be used on motorised systems. they were not designed for it.
    As I have a motorised set up then FBC tuner with standard Universal LNB and single cable from tuner to Lnb and motor should work - yes?
    And I assume if I had a VU+UNO 4K it will allow dual recording or watch one and record one ? And what are the viewing restrictions Mentioned?
    The fbc tunners come with the 4k boxes and run only OSCAM but not ccam, so what the work around that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Cleave View Post
    I found a link to that switch today - http://www.inverto.tv/products/product.php?id=322. Could someone please confirm my understanding of the functionality.

    I currently have 2 Humax Foxsat boxes, one of which is starting to play up so I'm in the market for a replacement. I've been looking at VU+ Ultimo 4K specs with the FBC tuner(s). I have a standard '4 port' (quad LNB, not quattro I believe? Isn't quattro for commercial installations, like apartments?) with only 3 feeds used - 2 to a box in the living room and 1 to another box in the bedroom. Rather than have to change my LNB, would I be able to feed this switch from the current LNB and then in turn feed the Ultimo FBC and legacy Humax tuner and obtain the FBC functionality (i.e. multiple vurtual tuners) from the Ultimo?
    No: the switch needs to be fed with a quatro-lnb.
    The link you provided shows it....
    Be aware: the switch you linked to can only handle one quatro-LNB (so for one satellite position only), so in that case a Unicable LNB would be the better (cheaper) option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Cleave View Post
    Fancy seeing you here!

    I'll check it out, thanks . So will the switch in the link operate as I described?

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    So would you be able to indicate what I'd need to connect to each connection..

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    It would be simpler to use the plain SUS 5581 F model. This accepts a set of quattro LNB inputs on the top side (plus a terrestrial antenna feed if required) and outputs them all on the bottom side for forwarding to other equipment. The other connections are the Unicable output (with eight RF channels), an earth connection and a power connection, though the power connection is not required if LNB volts are being fed through from another device downstream -- in my picture, from a multiswitch via the white cables. Connection details and Unicable frequencies are clearly marked on the label.
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    When you say quattro inputs does that go for quad as well if the standard F model is switchable too?

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    Quattro is not quad.
    A quattro LNB has 4 outputs; one for each 'quadrant. This means the (unicable) switch can output every single transponder to the receivers, independent of each other. In fact there are 4 LNB's inside, each fixed to one 'quadrant'.
    A quad LNB has 4 outputs, each serving just one tuner. In fact there are 4 independant universal LNB's in one house.

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    Thanks Rob. Understand that but the Spaun switch referred to by twol is capable of using both quad and quattro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Cleave View Post
    Thanks Rob. Understand that but the Spaun switch referred to by twol is capable of using both quad and quattro.

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    Because for a quad, a switch setting sends a 22khtz signal to 2 of the ports to force high band , so effectively it becomes a quattro with vh,vl,hh,hl ports ..... my emp centauri multiswitch does the same which is kind of useful as I currently have a quad on my 28.2E dish (the previous quattro lnb kind of burnt out in our very hot 2015 summer 30+C - and I had a spare quad)
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
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    I have tried to simulate a tuner configuration with a unicable LNB used for simple/single/motorised. I could not do so.
    But I take it you didn't stick at 'simple'?

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    I have no FBC tuners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIEN1X View Post
    Thanks, I asked because I have heard that anyone buying this receiver has to change the LNB to unicable or it will not work?

    Also noted it runs OSCAM but not compatible with CCCAM ?
    I have another question,
    There are not a lot of reviews on VU+UNO 4K, what are the pros and cons between solo 4k and this model, is it just the extra tuner and display screen?

    As it has a FBC tunner, what will be the viewing or sat channels restrictions when scanning as some have mentioned something about bandwidths which can cause limitations of somekind?

    As it has 1 x Twin FBC S2 tunner will the UNIO 4K allow me to dual record or record 1 and watch one with single cable, lnb and motor as mentioned before?

    I really need to have a clear understanding on above before buying as I found out that all 4K receiver are FBC tuners that you can not use motors.

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