Can vu+solo 4k be used with existing single cable and LNB with motor

[ALIEN1X]

Hi, have an old set up of single sat cable from reciever connected to single LNB which connects to motor.

If I was to upgrade to VU+ SOLO 4K can I just swap the receiver and still use existing single cable and lnb + motor using USALS?

Can I loop tuner A internally to the second tuner B ? I know one should use 2 cables but I really do not want to mess about with more cables and drilling more holes

I Understand that to make use of the FBC tuners one needs to change to compatible LNB, but which one if connected to motor and can I still keep the exiting single cable?

[DaMacFunkin]

Yes you can use existing LNB and Motor, no need to loop on FBC any available transponders at any given time will be available automatically via one cable.
For example just to avoid confusion, if you are tuned to a transponder on Tuner A and it is in reach of another transponder, that will automatically become available on Tuner C etc.

[ALIEN1X]

Yes you can use existing LNB and Motor, no need to loop on FBC any available transponders at any given time will be available automatically via one cable.
For example just to avoid confusion, if you are tuned to a transponder on Tuner A and it is in reach of another transponder, that will automatically become available on Tuner C etc.

Thanks, I asked because I have heard that anyone buying this receiver has to change the LNB to unicable or it will not work?

Also noted it runs OSCAM but not compatible with CCCAM ?

[abu baniaz]

To get the most of it, you need a unicable LNB.

I hope you realise that you will have viewing restrictions using a standard LNB.

Unicable LNBs cannot be used on motorised systems. they were not designed for it.

[twol]

I think we need some clarity on this fbc issue because the responses have been totally confusing.
We currently have a fbc solution from one vendor that gives advantages in some situations, but it is (in my view) very specific.
Can someone (without bias) specify what works in which environment (single lnb, motorised dish, multiple lnb,s) because depending on the setup (in my view) there are different solutions/costs that need to be taken into account.
... and Yes, I am wiling to be convinced on fbc as a realistic solution if someone can give me an answer on the above 3 situations.

[abu baniaz]

Incorrect information deleted

[twol]

Many thanks for this clear summary

[Rob van der Does]

To add about Unicable: there is quite a difference in a Unicable LNB (explained above) and a Unicable switch. The latter combines the outputs of two Quattro LNB's to one coax. See e.g.
http://umutelectronica.nl/product/in...icable-switch/
That example is a Unicable II switch; there are alos Unicable (I) switches.


BTW: I wouldn't know why a Unicable LNB couldn't be used in a motorised setup? I know I have been doing that, albeit years ago.

[Rob van der Does]

Some more about the Unicable switch: they can be put in cascade, so more than 8 tuners can be fed:

Unicable-I-Switch-Cascade.jpg

[abu baniaz]

So we have taken thread from unicable LNB to quattro LNB. How would a quattro LNB be used in a motorised system?

[Rob van der Does]

Well, I was suggesting to use a Unicable LNB in the motorised dish (as I did years ago), not the quattro.

The Quattro's are fine in a fixed dish setup in combination with a Unicable switch.

[abu baniaz]

can you show what the tuner configuration should be on a motorised dish with unicable lnb please?

thanks in advance.

[Rob van der Does]

What it should be, and what it was at the time I used it, was "USALS/Unicable/SCR-X" for the tuner with has the coax connected, and "Unicable/SCR-Y/Connected to other tuner" for the other tuner.
I can't test if this actually still works (although I can't see why E2 would have been crippled since then) as my actual motor has no Unicable LNB.

[Pete Cleave]

Some more about the Unicable switch: they can be put in cascade, so more than 8 tuners can be fed:

Unicable-I-Switch-Cascade.jpg

I found a link to that switch today - http://www.inverto.tv/products/product.php?id=322. Could someone please confirm my understanding of the functionality.

I currently have 2 Humax Foxsat boxes, one of which is starting to play up so I'm in the market for a replacement. I've been looking at VU+ Ultimo 4K specs with the FBC tuner(s). I have a standard '4 port' (quad LNB, not quattro I believe? Isn't quattro for commercial installations, like apartments?) with only 3 feeds used - 2 to a box in the living room and 1 to another box in the bedroom. Rather than have to change my LNB, would I be able to feed this switch from the current LNB and then in turn feed the Ultimo FBC and legacy Humax tuner and obtain the FBC functionality (i.e. multiple vurtual tuners) from the Ultimo?

Thanks

[twol]

Have a look at the spaun sus 5581/33 NF (thanks to Arcy for finding it!) ... which supports either quad and quattro lnb,s (via switch setting - forces the quad to act like a quattro) can be setup with 2 outputs as legacy and 1 for fbc ..... gives you an alternative to Inverto.
Quattro is used in many environments not just commercial
I run 2 quattro lnb,s into a EMP multiswitch which gives me 16 outputs.... IF (!) I move to fbc, then I will probably plugin the spaun to my existing setup ...... not cheap but I can,t afford to mess up my setup with Inverto lnb,s that are absolutely useless in my marginal environment