Mut@nt HD51 4K First Impressions.

[rsync]

A problem, after night standby, the morning switch on decoder show this error " No free tuner". I have to go reload Enigma. Throughout the day decoder resume with no error from standby. It could be a problem of the night auto-update epg check ?.

p.s.
My AX have two tuner sat but only one is on the other is off.

With crossepg update off. No more 'no free tuner', decoder resume ok of the standby.

[Andy_Hazza]

Can I ask why you have only one tuner setup?


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[rsync]

Can I ask why you have only one tuner setup?


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At moment i have 2nd cable to other decoder.

[Sicilian]

With crossepg update off. No more 'no free tuner', decoder resume ok of the standby.

Crossepg working fine here, set to download in the morning whilst in standby.

[Rob van der Does]

AV output on box set to 2016p multi. Is this right? Does this setting upscale the picture to my TV? I'm asking this because I can't see any noticeable difference from the 1080p settings.

Depends on the contents.

- Upscaling from HD (1080) to 2160 is straightforward (times 2, so lossless). It will make no difference if the STB does this, or the TV.

- Playback of SD is a different matter. If you set the STB to output 2160 the upscaling will be comparable as when an HD box does this for an HD TV (with output to 1080), only all irregularities are obviously 4 times enlarged (and made smaller again due to the small physical size of the screen pixels.
But when you use AR and let the TV do the upscaling, the result may (and probably will) be different. This is a complicated, not lossless scaling, so the result depends on the quality of the used algorithm. Best try and see for yourself if the result is different and if so which is better.

[aido]

Is that definitely right on the UHD STBs Rob in that 1080 -> 2160 is a direct pixel doubling?

A lot of devices are actually upsampling that conversion and not doing direct pixel doubling and using nearest neighbour or bilinear interpolation etc even when going from 1080 to 2160. Likewise sharpness would affect it.

Panasonic for example have a Pure Direct option on their TVs to make it do straight pixel doubling instead of anything more fancy on a 1080p input and it will bypass sharpness etc.

If the UHD STBs are doing a straight pixel doubling from 1080 to 2160 that may be a good selling point to push although some people may think it seems a bit soft if they're used to sharpening it.

[Ashley69]

Is there a conflict if both TV and STB do the upscaling to 2016. ?

I can't find an option on my LG UHD TV to turn off upscaling. I just wanted to test if the STB or TV had different upscaling qualities.

I am just trying to improve my sd quality. The HD upscaling to UHD is great .

[Rob van der Does]

Is that definitely right on the UHD STBs Rob in that 1080 -> 2160 is a direct pixel doubling?

AFAIK: yes.

Is there a conflict if both TV and STB do the upscaling to 2016. ?

It's not possibe for both to do the same. When the output of the STB is 2160, there's nothing more to upscale for the TV.

I can't find an option on my LG UHD TV to turn off upscaling.

That's correct. The panel has 3840 x 2160 and the TV will make sure that every pixel is being used. So any input that's not 3840 x 2160 will be converted into the panels resolution. But any input that is 3840 x 2160 will remain untouched (resolution wise).

I just wanted to test if the STB or TV had different upscaling qualities.
I am just trying to improve my sd quality. The HD upscaling to UHD is great .

Then make the AR-settings to achieve that. I.e. all HD --> UHD, all lower --> as is.

[Joe_90]

Has anyone tried the HD51 with a motorised dish? Would be interested in your experience.

[stavo]

Has anyone tried the HD51 with a motorised dish? Would be interested in your experience.

Yes mate got it hooked up to a triax 1.1 dish and tm 2600 motor, runs as smooth as a nu,t no problems whats so ever 30 west to 42 east.

regads

Stavo

[Sicilian]

Yes mate got it hooked up to a triax 1.1 dish and tm 2600 motor, runs as smooth as a nu,t no problems whats so ever 30 west to 42 east.

regads

Stavo

What version of the TM-2600? M1, M2 or M3?

When did you buy your HD51? Recent batch last two weeks?


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[stavo]

What version of the TM-2600? M1, M2 or M3?

When did you buy your HD51? Recent batch last two weeks?


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motor is a mk11 sic, purchased the stb last thursday deliverd next day friday, must say fantasic service from was.

[Sicilian]

motor is a mk11 sic, purchased the stb last thursday deliverd next day friday, must say fantasic service from was.

What tuner setup do you have? What tuner types?


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[stavo]

s & c tuner sic, its not a bad little stb for the money i think, however i wish it was the same spec as my 2400 with fbc tuners, ime thinking that will be one for the future, did fancy the solo 4k cant justify the money with what content is on at this moment in time.
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[hilly]

I'm waiting for the new gigablue 4k that's coming in 2025 AD ��