Poor picture quality vix 4.2

[Meadsmat]

I have an ET10k Upgraded from Vix 3.2.036 to 4.2 and hit the same problem as others using ET8k. Even HD is not as sharp as it was with 3.2 and SD has vertical lines/bands, very visible on poorer film/program source. Also 4.2 is very slow to change to Radio source, whereas 3.2 is instant. Gone back to 3.2.036 and great picture quality again. So will stay there. My VU+ Solo2 has 3.2.035 and is fine and will leave that well alone. Old adage seems to step in here, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.

[Andy_Hazza]

No such issues with the Vu+ Solo2. You will be ok to update that and at least you will have access to the feeds/plugins.


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[Rob van der Does]

No such issues with the Vu+ Solo2.

And not with any of my boxes either.
I take it you didn't install the video enhancement plugin, and disabled all so-called video enhancers on your telly?

[Rob van der Does]

IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.

From this I take it you don't want understand what updates are about. Indeed: bug fixing takes place all the time, so things that are broken in one version, could be fixed in another. But mainly it's a matter of development: we tend to enhance our images, add extra functionality and extra features. You may or may not like them, but that's nothing to do with 'broken'.
Of course: if you're happy with an old image, and you don't mind it to be unsupported and without feeds: feel free to use that.
on the other hand: since we spend literally thousands of hours to do what we do, and we supply everything for free, a somewhat more detailed (bug?) report, complete with all kinds of details, might help us to find any issue (if there is actually one). As none of our team can reproduce any PQ-related issues, we can't 'fix' anything by statements that people revert to very old image-versions.

[kryton]

As none of our team can reproduce any PQ-related issues, we can't 'fix' anything by statements.

But what receivers are your team running? Could this be a simple case of they dont run any of the 3 makes of receivers that have been discussed on this topic?
I recall Abu has seen the seen the same problem on his lx3, does he not have any input on the images you guys make?

Im not knocking you or the team at all so forgive me if you think i am but this is a known problem and would love to see you guys sort it out.

Im dieing to try the new iskin :-)

[Andy_Hazza]

No I don't use the video enhancement plugin. I don't have the need to do so, as I do all my tweaks via my tv's.


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[twol]

No I don't use the video enhancement plugin. I don't have the need to do so, as I do all my tweaks via my tv's.
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So you turn off all TV "tweaks" ? The only good tweak on a TV is to use either a THX calibrated display option(which will turn off all the tweaks) or get it properly calibrated

[DaMacFunkin]

So you turn off all TV "tweaks" ? The only good tweak on a TV is to use either a THX calibrated display option(which will turn off all the tweaks) or get it properly calibrated

Even a THX preset mode is not that involved, it just means that the contrast, brightness and colors where tuned to not be clipping using rec 709 & 2.4 gamma as a very rough guide when leaving the factory, it in no way will be as accurate as a full calibration, and in many peoples set ups will leave the picture looking to dark.

[Rob van der Does]

A skin has nothing to do with PQ. If you're not satisfied with the quality of the OSD (skin) please try a 1080-skin: they're available on the feeds.
PQ itself is only about the quality of the video contents.


But: whatever any PQ-related issue: an image can't change anything in that area. It's fully hardware/driver dependant.
Most boxes and surely all makes are in the team, and we always try to reproduce issues reported by our esteemed audiance.

[kryton]

A skin has nothing to do with PQ. I

You misunderstand mate.
I never said i was having skin problems or that it is the cause.
I said im wanting to try the new iskin in 4.2....but sadly cant....at the moment anyway.

[kryton]

But: whatever any PQ-related issue: an image can't change anything in that area. It's fully hardware/driver dependant.

This is a question ive asked a few times...but nobody has come up with an answer yet, so maybe you can shed some light on it?.

If the above statement is true then why does this not happen in 4.1 and below? Ive been told there was no driver upates by xtrend in 4.2 either so surely it cant be a driver issue?

[tappari]

I´m having no problems with picture quality ET10000/Sony KDL-52HX903. I am using video enhancement plugin. Basic mode for video in ET10000 is 576i/50 Hz/16:9. I trust Sony can handle the scaling.

[Rob van der Does]

I am using video enhancement plugin.

why? Which settings?

Basic mode for video in ET10000 is 576i/50 Hz/16:9. I trust Sony can handle the scaling.

That's about the worst possible setting you can think of. Now all video is being downscaled by the box to that extreme low resolution, and then again upscaled by your telly. Both scalings are not lossfree.
Why would you choose such a setting? If you're happy with the result you're either very far away from your screen (over 5 meter), or your eyes are very bad.

[tappari]

why? Which settings?


That's about the worst possible setting you can think of. Now all video is being downscaled by the box to that extreme low resolution, and then again upscaled by your telly. Both scalings are not lossfree.
Why would you choose such a setting? If you're happy with the result you're either very far away from your screen (over 5 meter), or your eyes are very bad.

I am also using autoresolution with settings HD interlace Mode = 1080i and HD Progressive Mode = 720p. My video enhancement setup is Scaler sharpness = 20, others default.

[Joe_90]

I am also using autoresolution with settings HD interlace Mode = 1080i and HD Progressive Mode = 720p. My video enhancement setup is Scaler sharpness = 20, others default.

You said in your previous post that you were using 576i as the resolution setting and did not mention autoresolution. My recollection is that the AV settings require either a specific resolution OR autoresolution If you set it to 576i, then you will reduce even HD channels to SD resolution in the box and the TV will not be able to display them properly. The TV will "scale" the picture to fill the screen, but it can't re-create lost resolution if you remove it in the STB. The autoresolution settings introduce all sorts of variables into the picture quality which may cause issues for some TVs but I presume you are happy with the results. In my case for DVB-S/T viewing (I only using my STB for TV/radio) I leave the AV settings at 1080i 50Hz. The box seems to be as good as the TV at scaling SD resolutions so it suits my situation.