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    Hi,

    I am planning to buy a 4k TV.

    I have heard 4k TV will upscale SD channles to 2160p

    If there are no 4k Channels, why do we need VU+ 4k Box??

    I heard Vu+ 4k Box upgrade the SD channels to 2160p but the 4k teles does the same right?

    Any comments highly appreciated.

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    good question.
    imho you don't need a 4k box today.

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    if you don't have 4k channels you will not notice the difference on a 4k box, if it SD or HD, must be 4k.

    in future 4k will be the next big thing, which virgin and sky will be working on.

    I was waiting for the solo4k as I wanted a new box. but not worth buying at this stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by john doe View Post
    if you don't have 4k channels you will not notice the difference on a 4k box, if it SD or HD, must be 4k.

    in future 4k will be the next big thing, which virgin and sky will be working on.

    I was waiting for the solo4k as I wanted a new box. but not worth buying at this stage
    Virgin and Sky working on when ?? I suppose that's why they just put there prices up again. I dread to think how much they will charge for 4k viewing do people think they will eventually price people out of the viewing market. I believe sales in the USA have not gone has well has expected . Need to buy a bigger house to get my bigger tv so I can get the benefits
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    .... And of course if you want the best 4K TV then you also want HDR 4K ...... But there are 2 competing groups that want "their" HDR...... So its best to wait
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    Quote Originally Posted by twol View Post
    .... And of course if you want the best 4K TV then you also want HDR 4K ...... But there are 2 competing groups that want "their" HDR...... So its best to wait
    HDR is for photography images right? Sorry correct me if I am wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.nikesh View Post
    HDR is for photography images right? Sorry correct me if I am wrong...
    HDR High Dynamic Range ---- to give a full (natural) spectrum of colours on a 4K TV screen.

    The pictures on the OLED 4K (top of range) are stunning .... but usually you see them with special recorded 4K content ..... not upscaled SD!

    Also when you think that people often buy a TV and never change the setup from a (immensely brightly lit) showroom display setting ...... why worry about SD/HD/4K !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by m.nikesh View Post
    Hi,

    I am planning to buy a 4k TV.

    I have heard 4k TV will upscale SD channles to 2160p

    If there are no 4k Channels, why do we need VU+ 4k Box??

    I heard Vu+ 4k Box upgrade the SD channels to 2160p but the 4k teles does the same right?

    Any comments highly appreciated.
    I have Sony Bravia 4K TV and trust me they do not upscale sd to 4k quality !!
    Got to be careful on forum rules here but I believe Sky sd is output at 720 ( may be wrong ).
    It does improve the quality a bit but not massive !! HD channels seem to be upscaled more better to near 4K but would not say 100%.
    I have VU Duos , good workhorses to be fair .
    Maybe there is someone on here that has a VU+ 4K box and could let us know if they do actually upscale sd quality to at least hd or even 4K quality when viewed on 4k tv ,would be useful to know ??
    Hope that helps a bit , at least thats my experience anyways.
    Last edited by jay209; 08-12-15 at 12:17.

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    when you upscale you always loose quality. upscaled sd to hd will never be as good as native hd.
    i feel that hd channels look better on an hd tv than upscaled on an uhd tv.

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    Totally agree ! I believe upscaling just fills in the missing leds to make it a fuller picture ?

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    Reason for a 4K TV is to play 4K sources. That doesn't necessarily mean broadcast sources (of which there are currently very few and only tests).

    A 4K STB will upscale broadcast sources and do a much better job of upscaling than the TV. Some of the 4K TVs that I've seen playing an SD source are terrible.

    Also, even if you do not have a 4K TV there are still advantages to owning a Solo4K, such as the FBC tuners and being able to view 4K material on an HD TV (albeit at 1080 resolution or lower).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huevos View Post
    Reason for a 4K TV is to play 4K sources. That doesn't necessarily mean broadcast sources (of which there are currently very few and only tests).

    A 4K STB will upscale broadcast sources and do a much better job of upscaling than the TV. Some of the 4K TVs that I've seen playing an SD source are terrible.

    Also, even if you do not have a 4K TV there are still advantages to owning a Solo4K, such as the FBC tuners and being able to view 4K material on an HD TV (albeit at 1080 resolution or lower).
    Thanks, what is this FBC tuner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by m.nikesh View Post
    Thanks, what is this FBC tuner?
    Full band capture.
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    VU+ 4k

    I splashed out on the Solo4k having Solo2 and Zeros complementing it. I find the FBC tuner very handy, not as many conflicts on timers or watching via iPads etc. I don't have a 4K tv yet but the Astra Demo UHD channel is impressive on my 1080p screen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyflash View Post
    I splashed out on the Solo4k having Solo2 and Zeros complementing it. I find the FBC tuner very handy, not as many conflicts on timers or watching via iPads etc. I don't have a 4K tv yet but the Astra Demo UHD channel is impressive on my 1080p screen.


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