Poor sd quality :-(

[skippie]

I never used the videoenhancement plugin, it is a fact that my sd picture is worse now, don't know how or why, I only do the upgrades when available.

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[richca]

Ye I agree that the picture is worse now, noticably so, especially so with larger screen TV, even HD is poor compared to how it used to be, I believe from a source last year that to have so many so called HD channels the bandwidth had to reduce on most channels thus reducing picture quality on all channels

I believe the picture on HD nowadays to be not much better than standard on analogue satellite 20 years ago

[Rob van der Does]

Ye I agree that the picture is worse now, noticably so, especially so with larger screen TV, even HD is poor compared to how it used to be,

This proves that something is wrong at your end; either a hardware fault or wrong settings.
For HD it's actually quite simple: the picture provided by the box is 100% the same as it is in the air. Nothing is being changed to it (unless you use the 'Video Enhancement' plugin, and provided the channel is in 1080i and the output of your box is also 1080i).
Please make sure that all so called 'video enhancers' of your telly have been disabled for the input you use for your box.

I believe the picture on HD nowadays to be not much better than standard on analogue satellite 20 years ago

Pardon my French, but this is utterly nonsense. Just play one of your VHS-tapes and you'll agree with me.

[msr]

I think it mainly depends on the tv being used, i find some lcds simply are rubbish at viewing sd pictures, and some sd pictures work well on.

So for me the answer to ops question, is that some lcds are awful at sd picture, so i would think there answer is the tv they have.

[pac2000]

If You're Output Is 1080p, The SD Video Needs To Be Multiplied By Nearly 3 Horizontally And By 2 Vertically...

SDvHD.jpg

Just Out Of Interest, Have You Tried Outputting In 720p From The Quad To See If The SD Is Any Better???

I Set Mine To 1080i, Because The 1080p Makes The Video Look Less Sharp On My TV...

[Rob van der Does]

The difference between outputting 1080i and p is using the de-interlacer of the TV or of the box.

Using 720p means first upscaling by the box, and than again by the TV; this can never be a good solution. Than you would better use Autoresolution, so upscaling is only done once (by the TV).

[pac2000]

The TV Should Be Able To Display A 720p Image Quite Well... The Quad Can Easily Upscale From Sd To 720... Infact 1080i Isn't Recommended By Industry Standards As It's About The Same Bitrate As 720p But 720p Is More Stable... Only 1080p Supercedes 720p... I Remember Interlace Modes From The Old Amiga Computer... It's A Method Of Getting Double Height Pixels By Alternating Between Even And Odd Lines Every Frame... So You're Kidding Yourself If You Think 720p Is Any Different To 1080i... Both Are 3 Times The Size Of SD In Terms Of Decompressed Bitrate And Dataset...

So Try Different Modes, One May Suit Both HD And SD Better Than Others With Your Particular Setup... AutoResolution Adds Time To Channel Change(If The Resolution Changes Too)... And Can Cause Other Problems... At The End Of The Day It's Down To Personal Preference... But I Would Also Advise Checking To See If Your TV Has A Sharpness Setting...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlaced_video

[Rob van der Does]

Using a capital for every single word makes your post unreadable, so I'm not able to react.

[Rob van der Does]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlaced_video

In this link I can't find any information that is relevant to OP's issue.

[skippie]

I think it mainly depends on the tv being used, i find some lcds simply are rubbish at viewing sd pictures, and some sd pictures work well on.

So for me the answer to ops question, is that some lcds are awful at sd picture, so i would think there answer is the tv they have.

It's not about the tv, I'm saying that with the same setup, system, same tv and with no changes in my system, there is a significant degradation of picture quality in SD only.

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[ronand]

That may be the policy of the provider - reduce the bitrate so the customer may be forced to upgrade to HD to have a half-decent picture.

[skippie]

you might be right, picture is better again, I know TVV is adding 2 more HD channels, that's maybe why.

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[007xico]

Arhhhhhh

Picture is still crap both cable and satellite

Tried many builds but same result, looks pixelated, i can see lines across the image.

[cactikid]

have you tried a better hdmi cable? is tv bad also?

[007xico]

have you tried a better hdmi cable? is tv bad also?

Sony 40 inch 3d tv 2013, so no problem there, cables yes many different ones.

If i am the only one having this problem, there are 2 explanations:
-something wrong with my set up: ex.box/tv
-you guys should get your eyes checked because it is very noticeable