Sim Unlocked Orange San Francisco Android 2.1 Mobile Phone with 2gb MicroSD card

[Maxwell]

Just a warning that if payment is sent using Paypal gift neither side has any recourse to Paypal should anything go wrong with the transaction

[Tzimakos]

If Sicilian is right and withdrawals are free over 50pounds, i'd be happy to give you the extra 4 quid myself so as you dont pay any fees..

[marty]

Just a warning that if payment is sent using Paypal gift neither side has any recourse to Paypal should anything go wrong with the transaction

Are you 100% sure on that?

[Tzimakos]

I believe that's right.. When i got scammed about a laptop i paid for, the seller said i should by him by paypal gift, so i did and i learnt that the hard way..

[Maxwell]

Are you 100% sure on that?

Yes its in the Paypal terms and one of the reasons I refuse to use paypal

[marty]

I believe that's right.. When i got scammed about a laptop i paid for, the seller said i should by him by paypal gift, so i did and i learnt that the hard way..

Thats sucks I would have thought that if YOU paid the fee you should have some protection.
In my case I always use my credit card on paypal so if things did ever go wrong I would still get my money back from the bank if paypal wouldn't pay up

[Maxwell]

Paypal Gift transaction - Taken from another forum I use:

The buyer's offer included paying me the £300 as a PayPal 'gift' payment to save himself the 4%.
I accepted this and he duly paid me, entering his name & address in the PayPal comments box.
When the payment arrived via PayPal email, there was no 'Postage address - confirmed' as you get with a normal 'purchase' payment as opposed to a gift. A confirmed address shows that the buyer has been verified at the address shown.
It also came with the following standard warning:
"Reversals:
Please be aware that your payment can still be reversed, (e.g. if it is subject to a chargeback), even after you have posted the item to your buyer. Complying with PayPal's protection programmes and following the trading guidelines, in our Security Centre helps to protect you from things like chargebacks."

I telephoned PayPal and they told me that as the payment was a gift there could be no goods changing hands in PayPal's view and so I would not be protected by PayPal's seller protection policy if the 'sports equipment' (as I told them) went missing. Additionally as there was no verified address sent with the payment (because there's no need for one as no goods are being sent in PayPal's view!) the buyer could have paid with a stolen credit card, using any other non-verified address he cared to. Even if not stolen he could still claim a charge back to his card and I could not dispute via PayPal as there cannot have been any goods involved in a gift payment.

[mmcmedia]

So is this sold yet or not

thanx

[SLOTH]

yeh its the revershal thing thats a real get out ... i,m not a big fan of paypal ....use it only as a last resort !!! ...been scammed for a laptop too ... was pretty grim !!!

[striker]

Pooface, if the phone is still for sale i will buy it. Don't fancy collecting it though as i'm in hertfordshire. I you want to post it that fine. It's all good to go this end so i will wait for your reply. TIA

[Tzimakos]

ok looks like i was beaten..

Cheers

[pooface]

So is this sold yet or not

Not quite yet, although might be sold to striker...

Pooface, if the phone is still for sale i will buy it. Don't fancy collecting it though as i'm in hertfordshire. I you want to post it that fine. It's all good to go this end so i will wait for your reply. TIA

Is that an offer of full asking price? RM Special delivery is around £5, so you offering £95 for it? How you looking to pay? As from what I've heard from the stories above with paypal and chargebacks, then I'm not too keen on paypal... So, personally I'd prefer a BT...

ok looks like i was beaten..

Cheers

We'll see how it goes above... But, as I said, from the stories about paypal and chargebacks, then I'm not too keen on using paypal... Sorry

[striker]

you have pm mate.....well in a minute or 2 you will have...

[pooface]

you have pm mate.....well in a minute or 2 you will have...

Please refrain from using pms until we have agreed a deal... Here's the pm:

As i have only joined today, not sure how to make direct contact with you without breaking forum rules. Anyway, i'd like to buy the phone from you so i can use with my o2 sim. Can you pass on a few details about the age and condition of the phone please. Many thanks......striker

As I stated in first post, it's sim free. I unlocked it when I got it to use on o2 myself... In regards to age, it was bought at beginning of October (about 8th), so is just under 2 months old. Condition is almost perfect There might be a little minor scuff on the rubber (saying this, as when I frequented the modaco forums, it was stated the rubber rubs off really easily), but I won't be able to check until tomorrow, as I left it at work on Friday when taking pictures of it to post on here... Also, had a screen protector on from beginning with a case...

[Tzimakos]

but if i do it by bank transfer I wouldn't be completely safe..

understand my place too..