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    Question Deinterlacing problems?

    I've noticed since day 1 that the box is struggling to deinterlace or isn't deinterlacing the picture sometimes. It's most noticeable on channels with a news ticker at the bottom like Sky News and it seems to happen when the bitrate of the broadcast is high.

    I'm using Vix image 3.0.569 and the display settings are 720p, multi (for Hz setting) and just scale, same as my Dreambox 800SE which never had this problem. Channels also change slower than my 800SE but that could be due to me using MGCam 1.38 on the Solo2.

    Why is the box doing this? Is it a known problem with the box?

    I'll post a picture example soon.
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    How newsticker at the bottom looks normally:



    How it looks with the problem:


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    It really is hard to tell problems with screenies, while they are appreciated, sometimes the screenies work much better in the screenshot than the issue displayed on the TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judge View Post
    It really is hard to tell problems with screenies, while they are appreciated, sometimes the screenies work much better in the screenshot than the issue displayed on the TV.
    The best way I can describe the problem to others then is to tell you to stream a channel with a news ticker like Sky News / CNN etc with VideoLAN through OpenWebIf and watch the channel with de-interlacing on and off. The picture on my Solo2 box on my plasma TV intermittently (probably when the image has a high bit-rate only) looks like a VideoLAN stream with deinterlacing off, then on, then off over and over and it's random.

    I know it's the box because I don't get the problem when streaming.

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    Try using 1080i and see how that goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    Try using 1080i and see how that goes.
    It's not made a difference, also tried 1080p. This problem is really making me

    I thought the Solo2 would be better than my Dreambox but this picture problem is really putting me off.

    Any more suggestions on what I can do to fix this?
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    Here is a good example video of what I see.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO6hjKxHWLk#t=22s

    It looks like the picture slows down to half speed in terms of smoothnes, not speed (60fps vs 30fps) when deinterlacing isn't working on the box and it's easily seen in news tickers as they usualy scroll very smoothly.
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    I can only say that I can't replicate the problem.
    Is it on all channels (I mean is it input resolution independent)? So e.g. BBC HD/BBC1/DasErste-HD etc?
    If not, you could try using the AutoResolution plugin to match the input and output.

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    Hi,
    if 1080i also shows this problem then your TV has the same problem as the TV is responsible for deinterlacing then. I also noticed a problem with news ticker when in 1080p. I did not notice a slow down.

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    Had this myself had to switch to blackhole

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    Quote Originally Posted by leechy View Post
    Had this myself had to switch to blackhole
    LOL, nice one: they use the very same drivers as all images........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    I can only say that I can't replicate the problem.
    Is it on all channels (I mean is it input resolution independent)? So e.g. BBC HD/BBC1/DasErste-HD etc?
    If not, you could try using the AutoResolution plugin to match the input and output.
    It's on all channels in all resolutions. I notice it more when there is a news ticker at the bottom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trial View Post
    Hi,
    if 1080i also shows this problem then your TV has the same problem as the TV is responsible for deinterlacing then. I also noticed a problem with news ticker when in 1080p. I did not notice a slow down.

    ciao
    The TV isn't the problem because my Dreambox 800SE displays in 720p and 1080i just fine, no problems with news tickers or deinterlacing. I have only started to have this problem with the Vu Solo 2 since the very first day of using it. The news tickers don't slow down for me either, they just don't scroll as smoothly with the problem.

    I also posted this problem on another forum and there are other people who say they have the same problem, even with the latest Blackhole image on Solo 2.

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    i switched and the problem stopped thats all i know try the blackhole image 1.7.9 released on 12.12.12 stopped exactly what you are talking about i upgraded to the latest blackhole and it started again

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    Re: Deinterlacing problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    LOL, nice one: they use the very same drivers as all images........
    Yeah its the old my PQ is better in this image than in yours argument.

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    Re: Deinterlacing problems?

    Quote Originally Posted by leechy View Post
    i switched and the problem stopped thats all i know try the blackhole image 1.7.9 released on 12.12.12 stopped exactly what you are talking about i upgraded to the latest blackhole and it started again
    There have been many sets of drivers released for this box lately, its likely the drivers that came wirh the 12.12.12 image were fine and more recent drivers have introduced this problem. ( I am of course speculating as I dont have a solo2 ).

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