Upgrading to a vu+ (Ultimo)?

[Huevos]

I think it will be more then enough with a twin tuner...

Not if it is a family box. I often go to watch something in the evening after everyone has gone to bed and find there is a list of multiple, overlapping recordings the wife has programmed. Other times I can't use the box because the kids are streaming one tuner to their bedroom and the missus has got something recording on the other tuner.

[Rob van der Does]

Not if it is a family box. I often go to watch something in the evening after everyone has gone to bed and find there is a list of multiple, overlapping recordings the wife has programmed. Other times I can't use the box because the kids are streaming one tuner to their bedroom and the missus has got something recording.

LOL, correct, and that's an example from real live......

[sasho]

my findings about Vu ultimo
- not dx / hobby oriented, looking more at computer features than a receiver
- front panel Is not build as a high end at all
- I find It hard to work with compared to my old enigma 1 dreambox db5620 - maybe as a result of loosing a case from dreambox regarding enigma
- bad tuner sensitivity at high ku band and nothing special at low ku band

really like to know what owners of both duo and ultimo think

[Ev0]

my findings about Vu ultimo
- not dx / hobby oriented, looking more at computer features than a receiver
- front panel Is not build as a high end at all
- I find It hard to work with compared to my old enigma 1 dreambox db5620 - maybe as a result of loosing a case from dreambox regarding enigma
- bad tuner sensitivity at high ku band and nothing special at low ku band

really like to know what owners of both duo and ultimo think

Pretty much every E2 box is sold as an enthusiast box, they certainly are not plug and play, if you want that there are plenty of other box's around that are.

Not sure what you mean by the front panel ???

E1 and E2 box's are very different, they can not really be compared (well not anymore than you could compare a nokia 3310 to an iPhone 4s, they both make and receive calls and texts and thats pretty much as far as you can compare them).

As for the tuner, they seem fine to me, but I agree that they can be prone to interference if you have a DECT phone close to the receiver.

Both my Duo and Ultimo are better to use, better value and better made than either of my Dreambox's were (dm7000 and dm800HD)

[Huevos]

- bad tuner sensitivity at high ku band and nothing special at low ku band

really like to know what owners of both duo and ultimo think

It's not bad, it is just slightly less than the Duo. If you are noticing the difference your dish is already too small for the transponders you are trying to receive.

Anyway after running the two side by side for a month and configuring the Ultimo the same as the Duo, I have now put the Duo away as a back-up.

[Ev0]

I think it depends alot on the lnb used too.

[Huevos]

I think it depends alot on the lnb used too.

The two receivers were connected to the same LNB. The is quite a bit of difference between the two at the top end of high band, but at the opposite end (low end of low band) the Ultimo has the edge.

[Ev0]

The two receivers were connected to the same LNB. The is quite a bit of difference between the two at the top end of high band, but at the opposite end (low end of low band) the Ultimo has the edge.

I didn't test mine together with my old Inverto black ultra, but I noticed the Ultimo had slightly less signal % than the duo had.

But with my current Hybrid Smart Tit with CM feedhorn, the Ultimo has the same or higher signal on pretty much every transponder i've tested, than my current duo.

[Huevos]

Try CBS Reality on 28E. Not +1.

[Ev0]

45% on duo, 47% on Ultimo

[Rob van der Does]

45% on duo, 47% on Ultimo

There's really no point in comparing those values: they are no way calibrated. Such a reading can only be used on one box, to see that a transponder is received a bit stronger or weaker then another. Don't try to use it for something it's not meant for.

The speedometer of my wife's car also says to be 10 Km/h faster then in my car.........

[Ev0]

There's really no point in comparing those values: they are no way calibrated. Such a reading can only be used on one box, to see that a transponder is received a bit stronger or weaker then another. Don't try to use it for something it's not meant for.

The speedometer of my wife's car also says to be 10 Km/h faster then in my car.........

Yes I know it's not exact, and is only there as a guideline.

But the fact remains, that the duo shows a slightly lower signal than the ultimo does, when both are using the same lnb to view the same channel.

Both are also using the same image, same channel list, same lnb etc etc.

[Trial]

Hi,
as Rob said these values cannot be compared between STBs with different tuner and driver.

In my case the Ultimo found around 80 channel more on Astra and Hotbird so I would say it is more sensible. I only have Kathrein components. 14 years old but still very good:-)

ciao

[Rob van der Does]

Yes I know it's not exact, and is only there as a guideline.

Apparently I failed to explain that you can 't do that this way.

But the fact remains, that the duo shows a slightly lower signal than the ultimo does, when both are using the same lnb to view the same channel.

Both are also using the same image, same channel list, same lnb etc etc.

Again: using two completely different and not-calibrated meters, so it doesn't mean a thing. Could very well be that two identical receivers would show different values.

[Ev0]

Apparently I failed to explain that you can 't do that this way.


Again: using two completely different and not-calibrated meters, so it doesn't mean a thing. Could very well be that two identical receivers would show different values.

So how do you compare the 2 ?