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bassethound
09-12-16, 17:01
OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD 2160p Linux E2 Receiver
3x tuner selection in the variants with the new standard DVB-S2x, DVB-C and DVB-T2 HD, as well as USB 3.0 port,
Gigabit LAN interface, HEVC265 video decoding open up new perspectives for you to enjoy the full spectrum of the new 4K experience.
Available from 30.12.2016 price from dual tuner 210€ up to 250€ for triple tuner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxm8G57f5cM
HARDWARE:
- Broadcom Chip BCM 7251S
- 12K DMIPS (12000) processor
- 2 x 1700MHz Dual Core (2 x 1,7GHz)
- NAND Flash 4GB eMMC
- RAM 1GB DDR4
- HVEC / H.265 video decoding
- DVB-S2X standard support
TUNER:
- DVB-S2x DUAL (DVB-S2X Support) tuner
- DVB-C / T2 DUAL
- As PNP version up to 3 tuners maximally possible
FRONT (FRONT):
- VFD dot-matrix display white 16-digit
- Power button / power button in touch
- CI module shaft
- Card reader
- 1 x USB 2.0 connector
REAR:
- Power switch
- Dolby S-PDIF input
- 2 x Plug and Play Tuner input
- LAN RJ45 Gigabit Support (1000Mbps) Network connection
- 2 x USB 2.0 connection
- 1 x USB 3.0 connection
- HDMI 2.0 connector
INSIDE (inside):
- HDD 2.5 inch SATA connector
bassethound
23-12-16, 15:06
Multistream TEST OCTAGON SF4008 Astra 4A 4.8 ° SES 5 Sirius MIS 12341
Image: OpenATV 5.3 21.Dez.
Driver: 22-12-2016 (About displays incorrect because copied via FTP)
Test with OpenATV 6.0 with PLS Mode & Pls Code tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqFzgKIai9U
Stream ID - Pls Mode and Pls Code Enter Menu Image
bassethound
23-12-16, 15:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0a1e8O1gjQ
bassethound
23-12-16, 15:11
OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD - VK Marktpreise
OCTAGON SF4008 Triple 4K E2 UHD 2160p DUAL Twin DVB-S2X
- 2x SAT Eingänge: 210,-€
OCTAGON SF4008 Triple 4K E2 UHD 2160p DUAL Twin DVB-C-T2
- 2x DVB-C-T2 Eingänge: 219,90 €
OCTAGON SF4008 Triple 4K E2 UHD 2160p DUAL Twin DVB-S2X & DVB-C-T2
- 2x SAT + 1x DVB-C-T2 Eingänge: 250,- €
OCTAGON SF4008 Triple 4K E2 UHD 2160p DUAL Twin DVB-C-T2 & DVB-S2X
- 2x DVB-C-T2 + 1x DVB-S2X Eingänge: 250,- €
OCTAGON SF4008 Triple 4K E2 UHD 2160p 2 x DUAL Twin DVB-S2X
- 3x SAT Eingänge: 245,- €
OCTAGON SF4008 Triple 4K E2 UHD 2160p 2 x DUAL Twin DVB-C-T2
- 3x DVB-C-T2 Eingänge: 259,- €
These prices look very competitive. Moreover, as more 4K boxes come to the fore then the price of non-4K receivers should drop too, one would think?
Rob van der Does
26-12-16, 12:07
Is this the first DVB-S2X capable Enigma STB?
bassethound
26-12-16, 12:22
Multiple Remote Control Support OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD 2160p E2 Triple 2x1.7GHz (DVB-S2X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_2TDyDTYbo
Multiple Remote Control Support OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD 2160p E2 Triple 2x1.7GHz (DVB-S2X)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_2TDyDTYbo
... ?.....
Are you trying to tell us its 2 remotes at the same time :):) or something special, because this is not
DaMacFunkin
26-12-16, 15:44
I'm a bit confused it's been a tiring few days lol...
Does that mean it can have 3x dual tuners equaling six tuner addresses? or 3 maximum per box?
I think its 3 sat, 2 from 1 card and another from the 2nd ..... but maybe I misunderstood the German:)
Rob van der Does
26-12-16, 20:46
Correct: a total of 3 tuners max
5 west multistream test with internal tuner.
Will the sponsor be stocking this box ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nk9xjp4If4
5 west multistream test with internal tuner.
Will the sponsor be stocking this box ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nk9xjp4If4
Other boxes are stocked so likely will but drop them an email for a definitive answer
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will there be an official vix image for this box at some point in the near future
will there be an official vix image for this box at some point in the near future
ViX images usually only come if and when the sponsor starts selling the box in question or you build it yourself I guess.
DaMacFunkin
27-12-16, 16:56
I think its 3 sat, 2 from 1 card and another from the 2nd ..... but maybe I misunderstood the German:)
Cheers that us what I thought I was reading, you can install 2 dual tuners but only use 3... :confused: lol
Cheers that us what I thought I was reading, you can install 2 dual tuners but only use 3... :confused: lol
I guess it could be just a power issue ... not enough capability for 4 tuners
Cheers that us what I thought I was reading, you can install 2 dual tuners but only use 3... :confused: lol
Yes I agree it sounds odd but the chipset bus only allows for 3 tuners and they decided to use all 3 rather than make just a twin tuner, they will be releasing the top end box (SF4018) sometime mid 2017 I believe which will probably allow more tuners.
USB tuners can also be added.
IMHO the SF4008 is direct competition for the HD51 and the SF4008 offers alot more new tech than the HD51 for a similar price.
On my shopping list anyway and my HD51 will be sold.
bassethound
27-12-16, 17:28
there should be a Vix image as the already support a few boxes from OCTAGON ;)
Yes I agree it sounds odd but the chipset bus only allows for 3 tuners and they decided to use all 3 rather than make just a twin tuner, they will be releasing the top end box (SF4018) sometime mid 2017 I believe which will probably allow more tuners.
USB tuners can also be added.
IMHO the SF4008 is direct competition for the HD51 and the SF4008 offers alot more new tech than the HD51 for a similar price.
On my shopping list anyway and my HD51 will be sold.
i cant be sure but does the chipset mean we could use cccam or mgcam with this box or is it just an oscam box :confused:
Yes I agree it sounds odd but the chipset bus only allows for 3 tuners and they decided to use all 3 rather than make just a twin tuner, they will be releasing the top end box (SF4018) sometime mid 2017 I believe which will probably allow more tuners.
USB tuners can also be added.
IMHO the SF4008 is direct competition for the HD51 and the SF4008 offers alot more new tech than the HD51 for a similar price.
On my shopping list anyway and my HD51 will be sold.
It would be nice to do a direct comparison .... the hd51 tuners are much better than the samsung in my Xtrends, so,would like to see how good the octagon tuners are in comparison.
For me the octagon minus point is no direct multimage support.
If they boot like the mut@nt can probably build the support.... but ?..
Octagons marketing has been really good, haven,t missed a trick.. hope the box is as good as their hype:)
Guess I will end up buying one to see and then selling a box:)
It would be nice to do a direct comparison .... the hd51 tuners are much better than the samsung in my Xtrends, so,would like to see how good the octagon tuners are in comparison.
For me the octagon minus point is no direct multimage support.
If they boot like the mut@nt can probably build the support.... but ?..
Octagons marketing has been really good, haven,t missed a trick.. hope the box is as good as their hype:)
Guess I will end up buying one to see and then selling a box:)
I lost interest in multiboot when I sold my DM8k
TBH I think the HD51 is ok for a single or 2 sat setup but it doesn't like my complex dish setup lots of tune failed etc, I had a HD2400 previously and I never really warmed to that.
What appeals to me about the SF4008 is that the tuners will handle multistream and DVB-S2X out of the box and the extra tuner will be a godsend for my setup.
Currently I'm back to using the Solo 4k while I carry on my search for STB Nirvana :)
i cant be sure but does the chipset mean we could use cccam or mgcam with this box or is it just an oscam box :confused:
ARM box again and so only ARM cams.
I don't really understand the tuners option. I want one with 2 feeds for satellite and 2 for cable , which one should I choose ?
DaMacFunkin
28-12-16, 08:22
You can't have that option without USB tuners from the way i understand it.
I lost interest in multiboot when I sold my DM8k
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Well there is the multiboot software plugin (which I have never used) and then there is the ability to boot different images via the hardware ...... two different things both the Xtrend ET8500 and the Hd51 have the latter capability...... which is great for testing or being able to revert to a working image
Must admit I've never tried the modern hardware multiboot, sounds much better than the BarryAllen method :) in your position beta testing I guess it's ideal.
Let's hope it comes to the SF4008, it's an interesting but not an essential feature to me for an STB, horses for courses I guess.
It's great to talk to people who have a wider interest in sat other than just the main 2 UK providers. :thumbsup:
I wanted to have the 4 tuners on it , even though I might not use it.
Anyway i need a receiver, I owned the solo 4K for a week and lesson learned, sat receivers and not to do other fancy stuff like Kodi, £400 is too much if other features are hit and miss.
I guess it could be just a power issue ... not enough capability for 4 tuners
From what I understand its a cpu/chipset limitation.
DaMacFunkin
29-12-16, 09:11
I wanted to have the 4 tuners on it , even though I might not use it.
Anyway i need a receiver, I owned the solo 4K for a week and lesson learned, sat receivers and not to do other fancy stuff like Kodi, £400 is too much if other features are hit and miss.
Depends what you want to do on Kodi re the £400 is too much.
I only use Kodi as a front end for my 34TB (and growing) media server, If there was a box that could run Netflix & Amazon in HDR with support for 3D MVC and Kodi 4K 10bit HDR support i would pay £400 tomorrow.
Depends what you want to do on Kodi re the £400 is too much.
I only use Kodi as a front end for my 34TB (and growing) media server, If there was a box that could run Netflix & Amazon in HDR with support for 3D MVC and Kodi 4K 10bit HDR support i would pay £400 tomorrow.
You need to look at the HiMedia q10 Pro:)
DaMacFunkin
29-12-16, 13:06
I have the Zidoo X9S which has the slightly better Realtek chip.
Neither can do Netflix or Amazon in 4K HDR.
Depends what you want to do on Kodi re the £400 is too much.
I only use Kodi as a front end for my 34TB (and growing) media server, If there was a box that could run Netflix & Amazon in HDR with support for 3D MVC and Kodi 4K 10bit HDR support i would pay £400 tomorrow.
I had 2 decent receivers so far , a solo4k and gigablue quad + and I think they should be used as sat and cable boxes, they fail as media players. Conclusion we always need 2 boxes one for TV and one as media player.
bassethound
02-01-17, 15:38
A few sellers now selling the OCTAGON-SF4008 on ebay with different tuner setups going to wait my self and see if wos starts selling the box:D
bassethound
02-01-17, 15:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQBHtsNTG5s
I still don't understand if we can have 4 tuners with this. They selling with 4 dvbs2 but there isn't one with 2 cable and 2 sat.
No they are not...you can have a max of 3 dvb-s2 tuners
No they are not...you can have a max of 3 dvb-s2 tuners
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Rob van der Does
03-01-17, 06:19
Looks like a dodgy seller to me.
There are 2 tuner slots
The 1st slot can take a dvb-s2 or -c/T2 and for dvb-s2 provides 2 dvb-s2 tuners
The 2nd slot if used for dvb-s2 only provides 1 dvb-s2 tuner:)
So max 3 x dvb-s2
So if you have as per the advert 2 x dvb-s2 pairs =4 but only 3 useable (which it doesn,t say) or maybe its in the small text:) or probably the seller hasn,t read the details
DaMacFunkin
03-01-17, 08:45
As twol states and as been discussed, you can install 2 dual tuners (4 tuners) but only 3 will work.
That guy is going to get a lot of negative feedback lol.
As twol states and as been discussed, you can install 2 dual tuners (4 tuners) but only 3 will work.
That guy is going to get a lot of negative feedback lol.
I was obviously up too early (or drunk too much) your wording describes it perfectly ... and briefly:)
Got it guys, also contacted Octagon and they confirmed 3 tuners max.
Probably plenty for my needs and price wise is good.
I want a 4k box with 2 sat and 1 cable, this might be the one as the price is good.
Mutant hd52 and xtrend 12000 are rumores to be coming soon but probably won't be much different from this.
Gigablue is going to be a lot more and the Vu ultimo ( can't justify the price).
Contacted WOS. They will be supplying the box likely in the next few weeks.
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Got it guys, also contacted Octagon and they confirmed 3 tuners max.
Probably plenty for my needs and price wise is good.
I want a 4k box with 2 sat and 1 cable, this might be the one as the price is good.
Mutant hd52 and xtrend 12000 are rumores to be coming soon but probably won't be much different from this.
Gigablue is going to be a lot more and the Vu ultimo ( can't justify the price).
Mutant HD52 .... they are indicating May 2017 which probably means September 2017
Here is some more info which maybe of use if it has not already been covered.
http://efe-multimedia.de/OCTAGON-SF4008-4K-UHD-2160p-Linux-E2-Receiver-mit-2x-Hybrid-DVB-C-T2-T2-HD-Tunern
Decided going with this one.
Waiting for WOS stock, on eBay there are some from Germany but say 20.01.2017 for stock.
I always buy stuff with all the features and end up not using it. I got the Gigablue quad+ with 4 tuners and hard drive and I think I never used more then one tuner at once or watched any show that I recorded.
The only reason I want a new receiver is for the 4k and I know there is little content around.
Andy_Hazza
05-01-17, 18:59
Decided going with this one.
Waiting for WOS stock, on eBay there are some from Germany but say 20.01.2017 for stock.
I always buy stuff with all the features and end up not using it. I got the Gigablue quad+ with 4 tuners and hard drive and I think I never used more then one tuner at once or watched any show that I recorded.
The only reason I want a new receiver is for the 4k and I know there is little content around.
I would wait for a review first.
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I would wait for a review first.
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You mean it doesn,t say Vu+ :):)
Seriously, Octagon have done a great job of showing what the receiver can do ..... but obviously like Vu+ you don,t find out what doesn,t work until you get one:):)
.... but how can you doubt an honest professional German company .. vorsprung durch Technik et al!!!!
Andy_Hazza
05-01-17, 19:40
You know I always go for Quality....... lol. In all seriousness I would see what Stef says when he gets them in and no doubt he will give a review. Would be boring if we all liked the same receivers. I tried Xtrend, but just not my my cuppa tea unfortunately. Did you ever purchase the Xtrend ice cubes, better than Vu+'s? [emoji4]
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With Xtrend will have to see what the new owners delivere next, I have always (as you know:) ) liked their products but ....
The Mutant HD51 has been excellent under the covers and will pick up an Octagon shortly ... if I don,t like it then off to Ebay:) but I guess sometime in the Summer when hopefully the serious competition arrives will start the Unicable journey.
Andy_Hazza
05-01-17, 19:50
Unicable 2 (JESS) is good, best thing I did rigging that up & the FBC tuners are great too. [emoji4]
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Unicable 2 (JESS) is good, best thing I did rigging that up & the FBC tuners are great too. [emoji4]
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..... time will tell:)
bassethound
05-01-17, 21:36
Firmware update Manual OCTAGON SF4008 UHD E2
German/English
bassethound
05-01-17, 21:42
openATV nightly builds
http://images.mynonpublic.com/openatv/nightly/index.php?open=sf4008
Now WOS has confirmed they will be selling it in the coming weeks does this mean there will be a vix image for this box, Also does anyone know if the open atv image has a plugins sections in the build as ive looked around & most stuff is in german on various sites so i can see a clear answer :confused:
If wos sells it, I believe there will be an image:):)
ATV have a download feeds like ViX, but softcams are hidden.
You have to apply an ipk that adds them to the feed and there is 1 ipk for mipsel, 1 ipk for ARM.that gives you the arm oscam
You can use your et9200 or VU+ remote with SF4008. Really nice feautre.
This receiver is so impressive I want one. Would be nice seeing a video about it's PIP/PAP capabilities.
Rob van der Does
08-01-17, 18:50
No UHD-PiP.
bassethound
09-01-17, 12:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDs_9YuOQq8
bassethound
09-01-17, 12:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhwF11CB8Hc&t=37s
bassethound
10-01-17, 16:06
Intelsat 12 45°Ost (IS-12) 45°E - Multistream TEST OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD (DVB-S2X) - ACM VCM PLS MIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY7OJRrFX1Y
bassethound
16-01-17, 16:18
New sales video enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg1rK2UnlEs
These guys are taking it seriously .. splashing the money!!
Been watching this receiver on line for acouple of weeks, And also the Uno 4K.
Contacted WOS about the Octagonsf4008, And was told could be in stock 3rd/4th week
In January.
Also asked about using the VU+TurboTuner for use with the 4KUno which they said would work correctly.
This is the set up i require 2xSat 1xT2/C.
Does anyone have experience with the sf4008 or Octagon themselves.
I used to own a VU+Uno which i found to be a great little box for my needs.
Cheers
bassethound
16-01-17, 20:50
my friend getting one shortly just waiting for stock to land in UK from a ebay seller hes just going for the twin sat model
going to wait till wos sells them my self i need a twin cable and 1 sat tuner :thumbsup:
ps and Vix:fart2:
Think i,ll be going for the sf4008 as well, from WOS of course.
Rob van der Does
17-01-17, 07:06
These guys are taking it seriously .. splashing the money!!
Yes, only the "E2 operating system" shows that no technician was asked to check the trailer :)
After all Linux is the operating system for all our STB's; E2 just being the (only) application running under Linux.
Pure marketing!
They say they are going to implement image multiboot like the HD51 ... so will wait for that then probably buy.
im going to be buying one of these boxes in the next few weeks 2x sat & 1x cable as it seems to tick all of the boxes i was looking for, i was going to go for the hd51 but the remote really puts me off it & i know you can use other remotes but that just more expense & too much mucking about
These guys are taking it seriously .. splashing the money!!
Yep looks good, they even created there own broadcast standard with the new 2180p resolution :cool::D
bassethound
18-01-17, 16:25
Any one got one yet?
Some files to help you out if you have one there are 3 images so far 2 from openATV and 1 from OpenEight in the link below there's a HbbTV SF4008 Test Plugin V1.0 13-01-17 and a skin all looking good so far
http://www.octagon-germany.eu/downloads/digital-receiver/hdtv-receiver/SF4008UHDdw/
bassethound
18-01-17, 16:30
Preview OpenEight Enigma2 Image für alle OCTAGON E2 Modelle - E2WORLD - Deutsch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py3FCL8gzPQ
bassethound
18-01-17, 16:39
Just found out the Release date pushed back to approx. 01/25/2017 :lifting:
Released date for what exactly?
bassethound
18-01-17, 18:00
Released date for what exactly?
The octagon SF4008 :baby:
The octagon SF4008 :baby:
Im curious is that the uk release date or world wide date
The video above shows an octagon 3038. Or was the video just to show the image that's available for it
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bassethound
18-01-17, 18:18
The video above shows an octagon 3038. Or was the video just to show the image that's available for it
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Its showing a new image that will be available on all octagon boxes its based on pli I believe
Its showing a new image that will be available on all octagon boxes its based on pli I believe
Got you.
That sf3038 looks decent as well. Checked the specs and has the 1300 processor.
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The octagon SF4008 :baby:
Its already been shipped, the 2nd shipment starts sometime after 25th, some dealers 30th
bassethound
18-01-17, 18:29
My friend has ordered of a eBay seller next batch is after the 25th plus customs clearing time so could be nearer the 30th not to long to wait now :thumbsup:
i spoke to uk company who stated they are uk main suppliers for these boxes & they quoted me as 25/01/17 for when they will be shipping them, they advised me to pre order as there has been a lot of interest in this box.
i spoke to uk company who stated they are uk main suppliers for these boxes & they quoted me as 25/01/17 for when they will be shipping them, they advised me to pre order as there has been a lot of interest in this box.
Wow, what a wonderful line :) Order now or you won,t get one... its amazing how many main dealers you get in each country:)
bassethound
18-01-17, 19:30
I hope wos will be taking pre-orders soon if he's going to sell them:cool:
I hope wos will be taking pre-orders soon if he's going to sell them:cool:
Thats what ive been waiting for as i normally order from wos, if not then i might have to use the other supplier
world-of-satellite.co.uk
19-01-17, 08:10
We'll be taking pre-orders in the next day or two, we where waiting for confirm date that stock would be available. We may have them listed today.
We expect to have stock approx Thurs / Fri next week.
Andy_Hazza
19-01-17, 08:13
Not long now peeps. ☺
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world-of-satellite.co.uk
19-01-17, 16:59
Pre-orders now open http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&filter_name=sf4008
We've been speaking with Octagon, they anticipate shipping to us around Wednesday next week. Shipping to UK normally approx. 2 working days. All going well we expect them around Friday next week, but please note this could change. May arrive a day sooner or could be delayed a couple of days.
Stock is ordered and paid in advance, just a matter of a week or so and we will have them.
Thank you :thumbsup:
Pre-orders now open http://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/index.php?route=product/search&filter_name=sf4008
We've been speaking with Octagon, they anticipate shipping to us around Wednesday next week. Shipping to UK normally approx. 2 working days. All going well we expect them around Friday next week, but please note this could change. May arrive a day sooner or could be delayed a couple of days.
Stock is ordered and paid in advance, just a matter of a week or so and we will have them.
Thank you :thumbsup:
will you be able to supply them loaded with the vix image
world-of-satellite.co.uk
19-01-17, 18:45
will you be able to supply them loaded with the vix image
Not until OpenViX image is released. At the moment we don't even have a sample to even test OpenViX.
Well, I "may" have a box before then from the German retailer in which case I will try to flash a ViX image :)
The one i want is 2xsat-1xT2/C which i have been looking at in the link provided by WOS.
It also states this:
"THIS LISTING INCLUDES 1X DUAL / TWIN SATELLITE TUNER MODULE (SLOT 1) + 1x DUAL / TWIN HYBRID DVB-C/T/T2 (SLOT 2 1X TUNER DETECTED)"
So does this mean i could actually swap the moduals over and make it into 2xT2/C-1xSat, As slot 1 recognizes 2 tuners and slot recognizses 1 tuner.
I would also like the vix image, but i would probably get one and wait for the vix image to be released.
Unless twol knows some thing wedon,t lol
The one i want is 2xsat-1xT2/C which i have been looking at in the link provided by WOS.
It also states this:
"THIS LISTING INCLUDES 1X DUAL / TWIN SATELLITE TUNER MODULE (SLOT 1) + 1x DUAL / TWIN HYBRID DVB-C/T/T2 (SLOT 2 1X TUNER DETECTED)"
So does this mean i could actually swap the moduals over and make it into 2xT2/C-1xSat, As slot 1 recognizes 2 tuners and slot recognizses 1 tuner.
I would also like the vix image, but i would probably get one and wait for the vix image to be released.
Unless twol knows some thing wedon,t lol
Yes, you can swap to give you 2xC/t plus 1 x sat
bassethound
19-01-17, 20:19
The openEIGHT image should be fine till Vix is released
Never used/heard of openeight before is it ok for the novice?
Cheers
bassethound
19-01-17, 20:53
Its based on pli which vix is a branch of so should be familiar on most things
Rob van der Does
20-01-17, 05:55
Its based on pli which vix is a branch of so should be familiar on most things
Are you sure? ViX diverted quite a bit from PLi.
ViX 2.0 derived from OpenPli 2.0.
ViX 1.0. ???
Rob van der Does
20-01-17, 10:07
Derived, but way diverted.
Just pre-ordered this box.
I've been reading that the tuners also handle well KA band frequencies so I've also ordered the Inverto KA_KU band LNB to put on my 1.2 motorised dish although I have have no idea what KA stuff I'll be able to pull in :) but this is the excitement for me.
http://www.inverto.tv/products/product.php?id=347&typ=2
Also attached is the latest multistream included satellites.xml from MCelliotG
Just pre-ordered this box.
I've been reading that the tuners also handle well KA band frequencies so I've also ordered the Inverto KA_KU band LNB to put on my 1.2 motorised dish although I have have no idea what KA stuff I'll be able to pull in :) but this is the excitement for me.
http://www.inverto.tv/products/product.php?id=347&typ=2
Also attached is the latest multistream included satellites.xml from MCelliotG
Its kind of interesting because Mutant on teh HD51 have just changed the DVB-S2 tuner firmware to cover PLS-multistream and wideband
Also say marginal transponders should be better, so I will be running a comparison between the HD51 and SF4008
bassethound
20-01-17, 12:34
ViX 2.0 derived from OpenPli 2.0.
ViX 1.0. ???
As far as i can remember ViX 1.0 was based on blackhole im sure if im wrong some one will tell me:sofahide:
As far as i can remember ViX 1.0 was based on blackhole im sure if im wrong some one will tell me:sofahide:
Well, you probably know best, but there were quite a few chatty posts in 2010/2011 that mention Vu+ , so ......
Its kind of interesting because Mutant on teh HD51 have just changed the DVB-S2 tuner firmware to cover PLS-multistream and wideband
Also say marginal transponders should be better, so I will be running a comparison between the HD51 and SF4008
Yes, I heard ms capable tuners were just made available for the HD51.
Can existing tuners be upgraded do you know ?
DaMacFunkin
20-01-17, 12:38
Its kind of interesting because Mutant on teh HD51 have just changed the DVB-S2 tuner firmware to cover PLS-multistream and wideband
Also say marginal transponders should be better, so I will be running a comparison between the HD51 and SF4008
Mmm that is interesting, c'mon VU+ get your finger out LOL.
DaMacFunkin
20-01-17, 12:40
As far as i can remember ViX 1.0 was based on blackhole im sure if im wrong some one will tell me:sofahide:
All that matters is i run PLi on a box and as a Vix user i find it very similar to use and there is nothing there that should surprise anyone.
Rob van der Does
20-01-17, 13:47
As far as i can remember ViX 1.0 was based on blackhole ....
And that explains why that image-range was left behind so quickly :)
Rob van der Does
20-01-17, 13:50
All that matters is i run PLi on a box and as a Vix user i find it very similar to use and there is nothing there that should surprise anyone.
Well, I use them both all the time (Pli on test boxes that is) and I find similarities are hard to find (both in UI as in files, even after having gone through all the work to bring PLi in a usable state).
Well, I use them both all the time (Pli on test boxes that is) and I find similarities are hard to find (both in UI as in files, even after having gone through all the work to bring PLi in a usable state).
... agree :) I am always in a state of shock after finishing the wizard ... as to Yes, nice picture but wheres the rest???
Box ordered.
Just maybe wait for the VixTeam Now, Really comfortable with their Image.
bassethound
21-01-17, 00:49
Just found that another team is making images for the box EGAMI team now have a image looks like the box is going to have great support which is always very positive for buyers
http://image.egami-image.com/index.php?open=sf4008
What's the factory image on this?
And will it come with the plugin feeds as the openvix ?
ps: already ordered one and choose factory image.
Andy_Hazza
21-01-17, 12:59
Factory image won't have any feeds.
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Does anyone know how if HLG will work on these new 4K boxes.
Does anyone know how if HLG will work on these new 4K boxes.
To early to tell, HDR imo doesn't work perfect on any 4K receiver. None have HLG at present and very much doubt they will have the appropriate hardware needed.
DaMacFunkin
22-01-17, 11:17
I thought that was a USP on the Octagon that it supported HLG?
bassethound
23-01-17, 12:29
Power-Board image for octagon sf4008
http://www.pb-download.com/images/index.php?dir=6.0/octagon/
Moved to new SF4008 section.
world-of-satellite.co.uk
25-01-17, 17:37
Sorry to post this, but Octagon have informed us that new stock has been delayed by approx. 1 week. Looks like delivery to us is going to be end of next week (to be confirmed).
Posts on a German web site saying 2 weeks, as are some of the German dealers ..... looks a PR mess
landerson07
25-01-17, 19:08
Doh and I only just ordered today thinking they would be here this week.
Is this box significantly better/worth the wait over the mutant HD51?
Sorry to post this, but Octagon have informed us that new stock has been delayed by approx. 1 week. Looks like delivery to us is going to be end of next week (to be confirmed).
Not your fault, Guys.
Its out of your control.
Keep up the good work
Rob van der Does
25-01-17, 19:13
Is this box significantly better/worth the wait over the mutant HD51?
There's really only one person who can answer that, and that's you ;)
world-of-satellite.co.uk
25-01-17, 19:20
Posts on a German web site saying 2 weeks, as are some of the German dealers ..... looks a PR mess
Thanks for the info, we'll check with them tomorrow for another update.
I'm really interested in purchasing this box but since I'm new to this and it seems as though it's gonna have some teething troubles, I'm content just to wait for a little while. :D
bassethound
25-01-17, 20:12
Cant order mine to end of next week so it don't affect me really sorry to all those that that were hopping to have it for the weekend
On the flip side it gives em more time to get any driver issues sorted:argue:
Likewise bassethound. Will be ordering next week.
Reason I'm not opting for the mutant is Im Looking for the remote to be of superior quality than that of the mutant HD51.
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bassethound
27-01-17, 11:23
PLS GOLD 121212 ACM VCM 12648 Stream 1,2,3 Eutelsat 5West A 5°W Multitream OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD S2X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiw_a-jPth8&feature=youtu.be
bassethound
27-01-17, 11:25
Zapping FTA Channel OCTAGON SF4008 UHD 4K DVB-S2X
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTFupTSET_I
I am confused.
Why do all these vids of the Octogon, showing multistream services state that it's DVB-S2X ?
According to King of Sat and Lyngsat, these services are not S2X, they are just normal S2
5.0°W
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12648.00
V
KA4
Super
DVB-S2
PLS: Gold+121212
8PSK ACM/VCM
Stream 2
29500 8/9
F, 24.9 Mbps
NID:8442
TID:2
12648 V
tp KA4
Super
53
DVB-S2
PLS gold 121212
multistream
stream 2
29500-8/9
8PSK
8442-2
Lexzie
160428
5.0°W
http://en.kingofsat.net/action_collapse.gif Eutelsat 5 West A
12606.00
V
KA3
Super
DVB-S2
PLS: Root+8
8PSK ACM/VCM
Stream 1
35000 2/3
CAIRO DUE, 22.4 Mbps
NID:8572
TID:263
12606 V
tp KA3
Super
53
https://www.lyngsat.com/logo/corp/mm/mediaset.png
Mediaset
DVB-S2
PLS root 8
multistream
stream 2
35000-2/3
8PSK
8572-263
6.6
D Lita
170115
If they were DVB-S2X then they would be listed like this:
19.2°E
http://en.kingofsat.net/action_collapse.gif Astra 1L
11552.75
H
23
Astra 1L
DVB-S2X
QPSK
25500 11/20
Dolby Labs Test Stream, 27.8 Mbps
11553 H
tp 23
Europe Ku
51
SES promo
DVB-S2X
HEVC/UHD
25500-11/20
1 - 48
8770-0
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Onacila
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They're not are they, if you want to read it like that then channels are not 4k either, it's just a full description of the SF4008,
I agree though If 'receiver or STB' was added to the end or some punctuation or underscores in the line it wouldn't be so ambiguous
'PLS GOLD 121212 ACM VCM 12648 Stream 1,2,3 Eutelsat 5West A 5°W Multitream OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD S2X receiver'
They're not are they, if you want to read it like that then channels are not 4k either, it's just a full description of the SF4008,
I agree though If 'receiver or STB' was added to the end or some punctuation or underscores in the line it wouldn't be so ambiguous
'PLS GOLD 121212 ACM VCM 12648 Stream 1,2,3 Eutelsat 5West A 5°W Multitream OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD S2X receiver'
I guess, every video i've seen, i've read it as them showing off Multistream on dvb-s2x channels lol.
It was only when I was looking on KOS that I noticed, they were not doing that.
I wonder why they have not posted any video's of any of the dvb-s2x channels though.
They have :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmNGf1RXV4
They have :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBmNGf1RXV4
Ahh nice, i've not seen that vid before :)
its easy to miss given the amount of videos there are :D
its easy to miss given the amount of videos there are :D
lolol your not wrong there
bassethound
27-01-17, 14:21
seen some ebay sellers giving a deliver date after the 8th Feb :smash:
Any updates on delivery date ?
Box size ?
WOS box dimensions 260 x 135 x 45mm
Octagon EU site 260 x 215 x 45mm (Flyer)
bassethound
03-02-17, 11:23
Ordered mine today :thumbsup:is there a estimated delivery date yet wos?
Well, I was seeing 7 Feb, now seeing 9th Feb .....so probably means 14th Feb ..... valentines present:)
the keep on delaying the release date was one of the main reasons why i went for the mutant hd51,which isnt a bad box just i wanted 3 tuners & the sf4008 has a better remote. i think ill wait a few months so they are readly availible & the bugs have been ironed out.
bassethound
03-02-17, 16:06
My friend order one from ebay and the seller said hes collecting the boxes next Wednesday from the distributor and he will receive the box on Friday :beer_toast:
Octagon support posted this on their own forum
Octagon Germany start 7.Feb dleivery to companys, like dealers, wholesale, online shops ...
so enduser delivery, pls ask your seller
If all goes well we could have them in our hands this time next week :)
Will it be weeks until we get openvix?
I
bassethound
03-02-17, 20:26
Will it be weeks until we get openvix?
I
Lets all get are boxes first Vix can wait till its stable and ready for release fingers crossed it wont be weeks :amen:
... and lots of changes at the moment .. blindscan, SNR, boxmode ... perhaps even Multi-image support..... but Vix don,t do that:)
world-of-satellite.co.uk
04-02-17, 09:39
We've had an update from Octogan this week, stock should be with us by end of this week. Thank you to all who have pre-ordered.
perhaps even Multi-image support..... but Vix don,t do that:)
Multi-boot can complicate a lot of things. Imo I'd prefer they don't provide that support so OpenMultiboot can be used. I run Openmultiboot on Ultimo4k and Edision OS Mega, runs spot on.
Also nothing stopping users who really want to use multiboot on HD51 flashing ATV to flash, then running OpenViX in multiboot :)
Multi-boot can complicate a lot of things. Imo I'd prefer they don't provide that support so OpenMultiboot can be used. I run Openmultiboot on Ultimo4k and Edision OS Mega, runs spot on.
Also nothing stopping users who really want to use multiboot on HD51 flashing ATV to flash, then running OpenViX in multiboot :)
..... and then have to edit the boot/startup files to get back to ATV or another image.
..... and then have to edit the boot/startup files to get back to ATV or another image.
I'd personally prefer OpenMultiboot added. Easier option for the average user.
michael1957
04-02-17, 12:23
Is there only the one HDMI output on this box i don't see any scart or av outputs????????
Michael1957
DaMacFunkin
04-02-17, 12:32
Is there only the one HDMI output on this box i don't see any scart or av outputs????????
Michael1957
:p
Scart on a 4K box lol...
Sorry to laugh but it is the way of the world, none of the 4K E2 boxes have analogue Video output.
Andy_Hazza
04-02-17, 12:35
Is there only the one HDMI output on this box i don't see any scart or av outputs????????
Michael1957
Scart is so old skool man.....
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bassethound
04-02-17, 13:20
Zapping UHD 4K S2X Channels OCTAGON SF4008 TRIPLE E2 2X1719MHZ 2X1.7GHZ DUAL CORE ENIGMA2 LINUX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCmEzMIHoDo#t=0.798375
Dramatic Music love it lol :thumbsup:
bassethound
04-02-17, 13:22
Zapping HD Channels from Pay TV Card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnri86EuqL4
michael1957
04-02-17, 15:25
Scart is so old skool man.....
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It was in regard to an old neighbour of mine who has all his tv's connected with Triax Tri-Link Kit to his main sat box how would you overcome this????
Michael1957
Zapping HD Channels from Pay TV Card.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnri86EuqL4
what image is this skin on?
bassethound
04-02-17, 15:37
Driver update SF4008 - 03-02-17:
20170203
-. Fixed Slow Navigation without Tuner config.
-. Universal CI add.
-. Boxmode Changer added.
-. SNR DB indication added.
-. DTS fix.
-. DVB-C Blindscan enhancement.
The following changes:
-. Menu Navigation without Tuner Config. Fixed.
-. Univercal CI support.
-. Boxmode selection built-in.
-. SNR dB% function.
-. DTS fix.
-. Blindscan DVB-C cable TV expanded & improved.
gmanpanthro
05-02-17, 10:06
would this box be able to support kodi 17 built into it, seeing as it has an ARM processor inside it?
Andy_Hazza
05-02-17, 10:35
would this box be able to support kodi 17 built into it, seeing as it has an ARM processor inside it?
Only Octagon can answer that.
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I dont think arm has anything to do with it:)
At the moment Octagon have made quite a few promises, so want them to deliver on them all 1st ... if you want Kodi there are better ways of achieving it.
Where can I download the feeds .ipk from openvix image, so I can side load them when I receive the box.
Where can I download the feeds .ipk from openvix image, so I can side load them when I receive the box.There isn't an image or feeds for this receiver yet, so you can't download anything. First we need some hardware. Then we can think about preparing an image.
Apparently Octagon Germany today ... Octagon SF4008 now in stock at warehouse :)
52470
Apparently Octagon Germany today ... Octagon SF4008 now in stock at warehouse :)
52470
twol, you seem to be in the know.
which one is mine, i,ve ordered a 2xs-1xtc.
looking at the size of those box,s the reciever,s must be massive. lol
... must be 4 -> 8 in a box?
bassethound
06-02-17, 16:32
Pity there sat in Germany cant see us getting are orders till early next week?
im going to wait a month or so,lets everyone get the bugs out plus they will be readily available by then hopefully:roflmao:
Is this the first DVB-S2X capable Enigma STB?PnP tuner for Ultimo/Uno 4K is S2X capable.
PnP tuner for Ultimo/Uno 4K is S2X capable.
Sorry if this sounds a daft question but what is S2X capable :confused:
Sorry if this sounds a daft question but what is S2X capable :confused:It means the tuner can open S2X transponders.
bassethound
08-02-17, 15:21
An news from the sponsor wos when the boxes will be sent out a friend who bought one of UK ebay has been sent his tracking number and should be here this week
An news from the sponsor wos when the boxes will be sent out a friend who bought one of UK ebay has been sent his tracking number and should be here this week
Not heard anything myself.
It means the tuner can open S2X transponders.
What does this do over normal s2 & does it apply to the uk
DaMacFunkin
08-02-17, 18:11
PnP tuner for Ultimo/Uno 4K is S2X capable.
Is that the PnP FBC Tuner?
And has it definitely been confirmed, last i saw was some fighting over if it could or not on openATV forum a few weeks ago.
Can you post a link? The tuner is marked as capable. That doesn't mean the drivers are. In Vix multistream you can tell if a tuner is capable because multistream options show in manual scan screen.
bassethound
09-02-17, 15:51
my friends box has arrived today just helping him setup the box its super fast great remote and the picture is very good cant wait till mine comes
!st thoughts :)
Image modified ViX with OE-40 and drivers from 8th Feb 2017
Running in 1080I (seem to have lost 1080p for some reason :confused: ...will have to look into it.
Running boxmode with Pip (no HDR ....... will test tomorrow on 2160)
Great remote compared to Mutant HD51
Same cheapo box casing and plastic front as Mutant HD51.
... and as everybody has said, feet could do with being bigger
Fitting HDD ...... 13 screws :confused: ... haven,t they learned from Xtrend ET8500 :) (5 for casing, 4 for removing caddy, 4 for HDD and screw them all back)
....... also cabling could be better.
Picture vs HD51 similar (good) .... although even SD looks pretty good
CrossEPG (28.2) and EPGimporter(19.2E) .... seems much faster than HD51
channel/service zapping ..... slower than HD51
Tuner sensitivity .... looks promising but will need to check later today when some services disappear on ET8500 and on HD51
Apart from that look like normal ViX EPG etc all good.
Just about to try and sort OScam if I can before wife arrives home from work (or it will wait until tomorrow :)
Can you post a link? The tuner is marked as capable. That doesn't mean the drivers are. In Vix multistream you can tell if a tuner is capable because multistream options show in manual scan screen.
Huevos fyi ..........Nothing different shows in ViX Manual scan screen (and Yes, I have latest Dev with your multistream additions)
Huevos fyi ..........Nothing different shows in ViX Manual scan screen (and Yes, I have latest Dev with your multistream additions) Bug was frontend "0", (i.e. tuner A) so manual scan options would show on second tuner. You need to build again. And then get some grabs of SF4008 doing multistream scans in OpenViX.
bassethound
09-02-17, 17:27
Got ncam 1.1 running great on atv 6 took ages to find were configs went but runs great now zapping is super fast
sd pics look great HD is very good 4K was excellent on the euro test channels we tried
GUI restarts takes seconds full restarts are also really fast
atv 6 is good image needs some work to find all the settings you cant beat Vix for simplicity
Update to post #181:
Oscam up and worked.
1080P fixed!
I think full restart is slower than HD51 but as bassethound quotes gui restart is fast.
So off to pick up my wife:)
Well, I am kind of an "in between" mood...
The Mutant HD51 is now my main receiver (having today replaced a ET8500) in the lounge and I have to say at 1080p on my Panasonic 55inch, its the best picture I have ever had .,,,,,, so it's going to be interesting.
I bought the SF4008 for all the blurb on acquiring weak services/channels, but so far although it locks briefly it cannot pull the signal in.
So starting to wonder if all the blurb was good marketing!
We will see!
P.S.
I have to say that the support/service for the SF4008 from Octagon has been superb .... IF Vu+ came any where close to this level there would be NO competition .... but it will never happen!
world-of-satellite.co.uk
09-02-17, 21:28
An news from the sponsor wos when the boxes will be sent out a friend who bought one of UK ebay has been sent his tracking number and should be here this week
Pretty sure your order got sent out today, thank you for your patience.
Some orders shipped today, balance will ship tomorrow. Unfortunately we had two deliveries today via DHL. Most arrived late afternoon and could not be shipped today.
All models now in stock.
bassethound
09-02-17, 21:30
With the short time i have spent playing with this box today its going to be one of the best box out there :thumbsup:
with the box only just gone on sale some drivers will need to be worked on to get all the promised functions and more working but the signs so far are look very good
bassethound
09-02-17, 21:38
Posted a few images for people to try until the Vix image is released enjoy
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/forumdisplay.php?578-Octagon-SF4008-Images
Pretty sure your order got sent out today, thank you for your patience.
Some orders shipped today, balance will ship tomorrow. Unfortunately we had two deliveries today via DHL. Most arrived late afternoon and could not be shipped today.
All models now in stock.
hope mines on its way to, will i receive a email saying so.
cheers
!st thoughts :)
Image modified ViX with OE-40 and drivers from 8th Feb 2017
Running in 1080I (seem to have lost 1080p for some reason :confused: ...will have to look into it.
Running boxmode with Pip (no HDR ....... will test tomorrow on 2160)
Great remote compared to Mutant HD51
Same cheapo box casing and plastic front as Mutant HD51.
... and as everybody has said, feet could do with being bigger
Fitting HDD ...... 13 screws :confused: ... haven,t they learned from Xtrend ET8500 :) (5 for casing, 4 for removing caddy, 4 for HDD and screw them all back)
....... also cabling could be better.
Picture vs HD51 similar (good) .... although even SD looks pretty good
CrossEPG (28.2) and EPGimporter(19.2E) .... seems much faster than HD51
channel/service zapping ..... slower than HD51
Tuner sensitivity .... looks promising but will need to check later today when some services disappear on ET8500 and on HD51
Apart from that look like normal ViX EPG etc all good.
Just about to try and sort OScam if I can before wife arrives home from work (or it will wait until tomorrow :)
Don't forget to create pull request for any fixed we need in OpenViX for boxmode :). Maybe some other stuff.
Posted a few images for people to try until Vix image is released enjoy
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/forumdisplay.php?578-Octagon-SF4008-Images
Thanks for those, any chance you can tell us where the config files for oscam reside. (ATV)
bassethound
10-02-17, 17:02
Just got my tracking info from wos best cancel my Monday Pilates class:whistle:
Just got my tracking info from wos best cancel my Monday Pilates class:whistle:
Me TOOOOOOOooooooo.
I have never considered a Octagon receiver in the past but this does look like a really sensible box to consider as I would like to invest in a 4k receiver with a Vix image....going to be keeping a eye on this thread and the overall development that is going on.
Regards
John.
Andy_Hazza
10-02-17, 19:17
All I would say is all the videos and the marketing has really hyped up this receiver, hope it delivers......
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All I would say is all the videos and the marketing has really hyped up this receiver, hope it delivers......
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Couldn't agree more Andy.
Its really nice to see a supplier Octagon working so closely with an image provider .... but this can (and currently looking at an issue with the hd51) lead to issues that affect other images...maybe too close:)
So far my view of the HD51 vs the SF4008 is pretty equal ..... there are plusses and minusses:) on both sides.
I am certainly not seeing the tuner benefits I expected to see .... but I have an unusual situation living on the edge of 28.2E FTA reception:)
So at the moment I am actually coming down on the HD51 side ... if the apparent issue can be fixed :)
..... but the HD51 remote is a real pig:)
bassethound
10-02-17, 20:14
Looks like the biggest moan on the atv forum is the lack of descent rubber feet so the front flap dont lift the front of the receiver up when opening the flap to gain access to the USB socket.
The simple things can annoy the Germans lol
i have been following these 2 receivers with interest as i am debating getting a LG OLED 4k TV & a Suitable 4k Receiver and so far for me it's looking like the Ultimo 4k
Well, I can understand (obviously living in Germany rubs off:) ), but its the number of screws on the casing and HDD cradle that drove me mad..... very poor..... plus poor cabling.
Remote is super.
.... but picturewise, yes its super but = HD51.
So the Marketing hype on the tuners ... doesn,t actually work for me, so really disappointed.
Also the SF4008 doesn't currently have the HDMI colourmetric options of the HD51.
.. and the HD51 has multi image support built in ... a plus for me.
So at the moment the SF4008 is heading towards my backup office receiver ... cie la vie :)
bassethound
10-02-17, 20:44
Biggest problem with the Ultimo 4k is the price and if you don't need 4 tuners or more there are cheaper 4K boxes to spend your money on.
Biggest problem with the Ultimo 4k is the price and if you don't need 4 tuners there are cheaper 4K boxes to spend your money on.
4 tuners ?
It comes with 8 as a minimum (providing you have the right lnb, or a cable feed to use it with) and is expandable to 18 tuners (internal).
i have been following these 2 receivers with interest as i am debating getting a LG OLED 4k TV & a Suitable 4k Receiver and so far for me it's looking like the Ultimo 4k
You are obviously a Harrods guy:)
The Ultimo would be useless for me, everybody talks about how many channels they can record..... but only if you can actually pick them up... for me the Ultimo is still a box thats trying to find a solution to an issue thats not actually an issue .
bassethound
10-02-17, 20:49
Well, I can understand (obviously living in Germany rubs off:) ), but its the number of screws on the casing and HDD cradle that drove me mad..... very poor..... plus poor cabling.
Remote is super.
.... but picturewise, yes its super but = HD51.
So the Marketing hype on the tuners ... doesn,t actually work for me, so really disappointed.
Also the SF4008 doesn't currently have the HDMI colourmetric options of the HD51.
.. and the HD51 has multi image support built in ... a plus for me.
So at the moment the SF4008 is heading towards my backup office receiver ... cie la vie :)
Seems a bit harsh comparing the et4008 which has barely hit the shops to the HD51 that has been out for months and will have had most driver issues fixed
Andy_Hazza
10-02-17, 20:50
I agree with Ev0, and the Ultimo 4K is a cracking receiver.
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bassethound
10-02-17, 20:56
the Ultimo 4K is a cracking receiver id love one but the price tag is high for a sat receiver that i would not use to its full capability's
Seems a bit harsh comparing the et4008 which has barely hit the shops to the HD51 that has been out for months and will have had most driver issues fixed
Probably..... but SF4008 been available for longer here on the continent ... and the work between Octagon and ATV has been impressive and been ongoing for some months... but can only compare what I see:)
Unfortunately, the Germanic area is a bigger market for these guys and they start here much earlier, which is why they are starting to work closely with ATV (my view) .. which I view as both positive and perhaps negative
Really at this moment its a toss of the coin between both receivers and probably down to user choice
bassethound
10-02-17, 21:02
When will Vix be released for the sf4008? i can wait till Monday when my box arrives :sofahide:
You are obviously a Harrods guy:) .
Not really but if i am going to invest in something that is going to be Very Expensive i would rather go for Quality over Quantity, as i would rather pay once now than have to upgrade every year when the flavor of the month changes, and my Duo2 is still my Work Horse Receiver so i am using that as my Blueprint for Quality, but if i count how much i have spent trying to get the perfect Receiver i could have bought that New Motorbike :D
by the way Andy i have my eye on the LG OLED55B6V
Not really but if i am going to invest in something that is going to be Very Expensive i would rather go for Quality over Quantity, as i would rather pay once now than have to upgrade every year when the flavor of the month changes, and my Duo2 is still my Work Horse Receiver so i am using that as my Blueprint for Quality, but if i count how much i have spent trying to get the perfect Receiver i could have bought that New Motorbike :D
If I could have Vu+ quality (I think I said that:) ) with Octagon/Mutants user support and service then you might have the best receiver. I just refuse to buy a receiver where the company treats you like #######
Couldn't agree more Andy.
Its really nice to see a supplier Octagon working so closely with an image provider .... but this can (and currently looking at an issue with the hd51) lead to issues that affect other images...maybe too close:)
So far my view of the HD51 vs the SF4008 is pretty equal ..... there are plusses and minusses:) on both sides.
I am certainly not seeing the tuner benefits I expected to see .... but I have an unusual situation living on the edge of 28.2E FTA reception:)
So at the moment I am actually coming down on the HD51 side ... if the apparent issue can be fixed :)
..... but the HD51 remote is a real pig:)
Whats the issue with the HD51. I have mines up and running and for past few days and not noticed anything so far.
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bassethound
10-02-17, 21:15
Do Vu+ still give out free units to Image and beta testers for all of there work they put into image building and driver testing which helps them drive more box sales
twol no offense meant mate i can see you like Quality products you have a Gibertini 1.5 Dish i could only afford the Gibertini 80cm at the time :)
Whats the issue with the HD51. I have mines up and running and for past few days and not noticed anything so far.
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May not be an issue ... time will tell :) I didn't think there was anything until a post yesterday :) ... and mine has been happily running for months.
May not be an issue ... time will tell :) I didn't think there was anything until a post yesterday :)
Can you elaborate. Or direct me to what you were reading
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twol no offense meant mate i can see you like Quality products you have a Gibertini 1.5 Dish i could only afford the Gibertini 80cm at the time :)
No offense taken :):)
Living in Germany you appreciate quality :):) along with all their sausages ... do I miss English sausages, bacon, pork pies et al ...... Yes!! But the beer is brilliant :)
..and living close to Italy, we get the benefit of Italian wine, coffee and Gibertini !!
I still think for the price the mutant is a cracking deal ie twin tuner & hdd support less than £200 is a bargain, i really looked at all the current 4k boxes with no limits on price as i intend too keep it for a few years, ok the mutant was a bonus as i knew someone who bought one & couldnt get on with it so i bought it off him silly cheap / as other have said my bigest gripe was the remote but that was curred by me purchasing a logitech harmony 650 remote & so far a month later the mutant has grown on me & going to be a keeper even though ill prob buy an sf4008 in the next few months :cool:
Twol
How would you rate the overall picture quality of the Octagon SF4008 v VUSolo 2 when viewing HD content or even 4k broadcasts (appreciate VU+Solo 2 does not decode 4K)?
Thanks in advance
John
Twol
How would you rate the overall picture quality of the Octagon SF4008 v VUSolo 2 when viewing HD content or even 4k broadcasts?
Thanks in advance
John
I don't think you can compare any of the 4K Arm boxes from Mutant (HD51), Octagon (SF4008) and VU+ with anything else ...picture wise they are all excellent.
On a 4K TV/monitor they are magic ... just short of content.
I have just moved my HD51 downstairs connected to an Onkyo amp system and Panasonic Plasma and its like a new world (running with 1080p) compared to the previous Xtrend ET8500.... very solid, detailed and great blacks picture wise.
I would expect the Octagon SF4008 to be the same based on what I have seen so far.
What a lot of people seem to forget is ok you buy a 4k box no matter the make & there is all sorts & price ranges about, but you need to rember that in the uk we dont get alot of 4k content & the box you buy will only be as good as the tv you are using it on & who the service provider is. i bought a 9000 series samsung curved tv & the mutant is running both sky & virgin cards & so far im very impressed the hd content is amazing & the sd is good, the other factors people need to rember is quality of dish - lnb & cabling etc. mine is running an 60cm dish with an inverto black ultra lnb tuned to 28.2 with low loss cable with snap & seal connectors.
Twol
Many thanks for you're reply and your prompt response to my question....thank you.
After many years using a Pioneer Kuro 500A (sold it to a British TV enthusiast living in Munich) I upgraded to a Samsung 4K UHD and so far I am very happy with my choice.
Twol, with all these new receivers that are now coming onto the market I am looking to make the move into the 4K receiver market (even though there is still relatively little content) my decision process is based on what I read from all those who contribute on this excellent forum, I totally appreciate and respect all those who spend hours/days/month testing all new products along with developing and improving the VIX image....thank you to you all who participate in the testing process so that we enjoy the benefits. In regards to the new Octagon SF4008 and the VU+Ultimo 4k I will continue to follow all threads.
Regards
John
Twol
After many years using a Pioneer Kuro 500A (sold it to a British TV enthusiast living in Munich) I upgraded to a Samsung 4K UHD and so far I am very happy with my choice.
I might even know him ...... if so he also bought one of the last Panny plasma's
Twol
It is a small world we live in....
Regards
John
DaMacFunkin
11-02-17, 07:54
4 tuners ?
It comes with 8 as a minimum (providing you have the right lnb, or a cable feed to use it with) and is expandable to 18 tuners (internal).
I'd have the full 18 if i was currently fit enough to sort my lnb out, when i eventually get round to it i may have to do an external split and hide it on the side of the chimney, anybody seen a suitable external box to house a splitter?
p.s. if the Ultimo is DVB-S2X compatible as some are suggesting then it is the Ultimate.
Seems a bit harsh comparing the et4008 which has barely hit the shops to the HD51 that has been out for months and will have had most driver issues fixed
Actually, thinking about your response, made me remember that my in-laws baby-sit our house and dog in a few weeks, and with their wonderful (non) technical skills, it makes more sense to use the SF4008 with its smaller footprint and its far superior remote in the lounge - I usually use an IPAD remote controller app normally, but this is way beyond my in-laws capabilities:):) ... hopefully the SF4008 is close enough to the Xtrend's in look, feel and keys to handle their special requirements :)
Also the Mutant HD51 with its multi image capabilities works better as my image test box --- so a win - win situation:)
4 tuners ?
It comes with 8 as a minimum (providing you have the right lnb, or a cable feed to use it with) and is expandable to 18 tuners (internal).Ultimo 4K does not have 8 tuners. It has 2 tuners that can acess multiple transponders in a few specific configurations. 8 tuners is something that someone dreamed up to represent this functionality in the UI. The reality is it is not 8 tuners and you could not attach 8 independent aerial systems to it.You can't even call more than one instance of get frontend.
DaMacFunkin
11-02-17, 11:45
From a Cable TV point of view, why would you need to attach 8 different Cable's? Are there Private residential addresses in the world that have multiple Cable TV providers?
I'd have the full 18 if i was currently fit enough to sort my lnb out, when i eventually get round to it i may have to do an external split and hide it on the side of the chimney, anybody seen a suitable external box to house a splitter?
p.s. if the Ultimo is DVB-S2X compatible as some are suggesting then it is the Ultimate.
I have all 18 in use.
16x sat and 2x cable.
I also have turbo tuner connected for T2 giving me 19 in total, but that only works with BH and VTi at the moment.
Ultimo 4K does not have 8 tuners. It has 2 tuners that can acess multiple transponders in a few specific configurations. 8 tuners is something that someone dreamed up to represent this functionality in the UI. The reality is it is not 8 tuners and you could not attach 8 independent aerial systems to it.You can't even call more than one instance of get frontend.
Ok if you want to take it literally then, yes it only has 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 tuners, but if you have the correct setup (unicable II), then you can tune 18 different transponders at the same time which effectively makes it 18 tuners, which you can't do with any other receiver.
Ok if you want to take it literally then, yes it only has 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6 tuners, but if you have the correct setup (unicable II), then you can tune 18 different transponders at the same time which effectively makes it 18 tuners, which you can't do with any other receiver.The final restriction is the number of demuxers. I think with the Ultimo 4K has 23 so that would be the limit.
From a Cable TV point of view, why would you need to attach 8 different Cable's? Are there Private residential addresses in the world that have multiple Cable TV providers?I was talking about satellite. Cable is a different issue. For a start there needs to be a way to differentiate between multiple cable providers. Currently cable namespace is 0xFFFF0000. To have multiple operators to one receiver that would need to change.
I seem to recall a thread about this some time ago on PLi forum.
I've had this box for a day now and to me it's the best box I've owned so far but lets get things in perspective here, if you just have a fixed dish setup then I guess there's no real advantage over any other box at this point in time but, if like me you like to receive and tune unusual channels (ie multistream channels an various sats across the arc) and have a motorised system then SF4008 comes into it's own and is brilliant.
I have this box setup temporarily in my office currently running openATV 6.0 but as soon as a ViX image is available it will replace my Solo 4k in the lounge with no hesitation.
For those who would like extra tuners then I currently have 2 USB tuners plugged in - a Sundtek DVB-S2 and a DVBSky cable tuner and both are working flawlessly.
Did I mention I love this box :D
[QUOTE=maxben;439090] if you just have a fixed dish setup then I guess there's no real advantage over any other box at this point in time.
Sorry if this is a dumb question but would this exclude any 4K content? Thanks
No if your sat gets 4K you will.
There are lots of useless 4K test channels out there including 4K test on 28.2E.
The beeb is rumoured will be showing Wimbledon in 4K.
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Not sure I understand your question but the only advantage at this time the SF4008 has over any other 4k box is it can receive any 4k channels transmitted in DVB-S2X which at the moment there is only one which is the Dolby Labs Test Stream on 19.2e but I believe DVB-S2X tuners are now available for the Mut@nt HD51.
What I like about Octagon is that they are very proactive with drivers and other fixes.
bassethound
12-02-17, 14:40
Sky have said they will broadcast F1 in 4K this year
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/headlines/2016/9/tata-communications-readies-sky-for-f1-in-uhd-in-2017.html
All the 4K channels over Europe
http://en.kingofsat.net/ultrahd.php
Not sure I understand your question but the only advantage at this time the SF4008 has over any other 4k box is it can receive any 4k channels transmitted in DVB-S2X which at the moment there is only one which is the Dolby Labs Test Stream on 19.2e but I believe DVB-S2X tuners are now available for the Mut@nt HD51.
What I like about Octagon is that they are very proactive with drivers and other fixes.
Both Mutant and especially Octagon (at this moment :)) are excellent ....... Octagon have a representative on the ATV forum and judging from his responses doesn't seem to sleep much:)
Its always a difficult balancing point between a company and their users/image providers but Octagon are extremely responsive (sometimes not keen to take criticism - but if you provide proof they try to react) but overall very good. Their marketing of this product has been terrific providing proof of delivery rather than just marketing hype :) and it nice to at least feel they listen......
bassethound
13-02-17, 16:16
Box turned up today great service from wos as always so far very happy with it need to add HDD not easy with builders hands :D
bassethound
13-02-17, 17:03
My old white remote VU+ works a treat (keep the wife happy) dozen more remotes to choose from:thumbsup:
Box turned up today great service from wos as always so far very happy with it need to add HDD not easy with builders hands :D
Been testing a unit here today, a number if changes for the SF4008 added today.
Box turned up today great service from wos as always so far very happy with it need to add HDD not easy with builders hands :D
mine turned up to, thank you WOS, just fitted a 1TB hdd. not turned on yet, will do that later.
was expecting a user manual, but only a quick start guide in the box.
did you get a user manual ?
bassethound
13-02-17, 17:23
mine turned up to, thank you WOS, just fitted a 1TB hdd. not turned on yet, will do that later.
was expecting a user manual, but only a quick start guide in the box.
did you get a user manual ?
No user manual for me also but flashed atv 6 took about 1 min its not the easiest to navigate (menus hidden in menus) but got there if your a old hand like me at E2 its straight forward did most of the settings via the colored buttons.
Only one word for this box is wowwwwwwwww super fast! its like night and day compared to my old Ultimo
Only one word for this box is wowwwwwwwww super fast! its like night and day compared to my old Ultimo
To be fair, even a Zero feels fast compared to the original Ultimo :D
Just got my box and looks great but without openvix I am lost.
Is there any image available that has ABM and Oscam in the feeds?
Also some stuff on the menu still in German :confused:
My old white remote VU+ works a treat (keep the wife happy) dozen more remotes to choose from:thumbsup:
did you set it up or did it just work
No user manual for me also but flashed atv 6 took about 1 min its not the easiest to navigate (menus hidden in menus) but got there if your a old hand like me at E2 its straight forward did most of the settings via the colored buttons.
Only one word for this box is wowwwwwwwww super fast! its like night and day compared to my old Ultimo
Cheers Bassethound
Got mine flashed with openeight, never tried it before.
If i can,t fathhom it i,ll switch to atv6, until of course the vixteam produce thier image.
bassethound
13-02-17, 19:14
Cheers Bassethound
Got mine flashed with openeight, never tried it before.
If i can,t fathhom it i,ll switch to atv6, until of course the vixteam produce thier image.
Openeight is pli based but to simple needs to much to be manually adding I would recommend the atv6 till vix makes a appearance everything you need in the feeds apart from cams and ABM
Openeight is pli based but to simple needs to much to be manually adding I would recommend the atv6 till vix makes a appearance everything you need in the feeds apart from cams and ABM
atv6 it is then.
when flashing do have to press channel up (on booting) when promted ?
or is it a differant key press.
cheers
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