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bassethound
13-02-17, 20:04
just tap the start button on the left

007xico
13-02-17, 20:09
Just got my box and looks great but without openvix I am lost.

Is there any image available that has ABM and Oscam in the feeds?
Also some stuff on the menu still in German :confused:

Spoke too soon and without looking.
Googled Oscam and installed it. ABM and cross EPG were on the plugins.
All set and working, so far so good.

bassethound
13-02-17, 20:36
did you set it up or did it just work

you have to change it via a menu setting

khan888
13-02-17, 21:04
I've just managed to set mine up using openatv 6.0 but I have a constant recording icon on the front of the receiver, anyone else got this?


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bassethound
13-02-17, 21:34
I've just managed to set mine up using openatv 6.0 but I have a constant recording icon on the front of the receiver, anyone else got this?


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Its a software bug on atv 6 try changing this setting at the bottom of the recording menu settings see pic

khan888
13-02-17, 21:42
Its a software bug on atv 6 try changing this setting at the bottom of the recording menu settings see pic

Thanks for the reply, changed but still the same. No worries I'm sure vix will come along soon enough [emoji4]


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bassethound
13-02-17, 21:44
you will need a full restart worked for me

khan888
13-02-17, 22:39
you will need a full restart worked for me

Cheers mate working now I was restating gui...thanks


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krissjas
18-02-17, 11:56
Hi. I am thinking of buying a new stb in days. As I have just upgraded to Sony XD93 and Marantz 4k it would be a natural way to follow 4k path but I cant decide atm.
I need very (very!) relaible receiver (been let down by GigaBlue Quad and Zgemma 2S only recently).
Typical family usage of twin/triple tuners , not overcomplicated but fast and responsive. Which in terms of support, friendliness and liveliness I should get?
Mutant/Octagon or Solo (all 4k). Thanks for an advice:thumbsup:

Andy_Hazza
18-02-17, 12:06
Bassethound & Twol will say Octagon. hehe. I'm a Vu+ man personally, basically because of the build quality of their receivers unlike the cheap looking of some of the others. Yeah Vu+ do have problems with addressing any driver issues (a bit slow at responding) but at the moment my Solo 4K & Ultimo 4K are rock solid so I'm happy. The Octagon SF4008 does look interesting though and I wouldn't like to be without my FBC tuners now so rules out both the HD51 & SF4008 for me at least anyhow.
P.S. Chuck that Zgemma bag 'o' shite in the trash. hehe


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michael1957
18-02-17, 12:10
Hi Andy,
is there any update on the vix image for the SF4008.

Andy_Hazza
18-02-17, 12:20
All I can say is a Dev ViX image is present and is being tested behind the scenes. [emoji4]


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twol
18-02-17, 12:21
Both Mut@nt HD51 (2 tuners max as of yesterday, but new drivers may have changed all that :) and potentially offer far more so watch this space ) and Octagon SF4008 (3 tuners max) are excellent receivers ... both will also support usb tuners.
I have likes and dislikes for both boxes.
Both offer excellent support (Octagon has been brilliant)
Neither have great box looks but inside technically good and produce excellent picture in 1080 or 2160.
Fast boot times and very fast E2 GUI restart on both boxes.
Octagon remote is good, but being picky it also takes you 13 screws to remove the lid and insert a HDD !
Mutant has inbuilt multiple image support with some images (which is why its my Office test receiver), and Octagon is dependent on OpenMultiboot plugin (which is why its my Lounge receiver).

It would appear based on last nights drivers update (Mut@nt) both Mut@nt and Octagon receivers may offer special tuner advantages for specialised user requirements vs Vu+ Solo.

krissjas
18-02-17, 12:53
May I add its a typical family lounge usage, nor a dozen or two plugins running but only a few + fast wifi + pvr. Atm Im focused on Hotbird only (quad LNB) but will be upgrading to some monoblock once the weather is ok to finally run SKY ;) Zgemma landed in bedroom today it was failing on newest HDMI support (video kept turning off) but if its ok for older tv gen (testing new soft in progress) it will stay upstairs if not ---> recycling centre :D Now Im using aged Openbox (10yrs old and still ok!) taken from kids but cant do it for long...
Like the look of Solo but will I need FBC? so to pay 40-50 quid extra for it? Never owned any of these before so hence my question...well :confused:

maxben
18-02-17, 14:04
Octagon remote is good, but being picky it also takes you 13 screws to remove the lid and insert a HDD !


Being picky about the HD51, such a cheapskate thing to do these days to not include a power switch on the back panel :p

Talking about USB tuners on the SF4008 none I've tried either sat or cable are compatible with ABM, it just fails and hangs requires a hard reset.

I've had to revert to making my own bouquets for cable, a real hardship after being spoiled by ABM :)

twol
18-02-17, 14:20
Being picky about the HD51, such a cheapskate thing to do these days to not include a power switch on the back panel :p

Talking about USB tuners on the SF4008 none I've tried either sat or cable are compatible with ABM, it just fails and hangs requires a hard reset.

I've had to revert to making my own bouquets for cable, a real hardship after being spoiled by ABM :)

Agree with you on the HD51 power switch .....hate pulling cables out:)
Octagon just Added support for tbs tuner ..... constant change on both receivers:)

twol
18-02-17, 14:24
May I add its a typical family lounge usage, nor a dozen or two plugins running but only a few + fast wifi + pvr. Atm Im focused on Hotbird only (quad LNB) but will be upgrading to some monoblock once the weather is ok to finally run SKY ;) Zgemma landed in bedroom today it was failing on newest HDMI support (video kept turning off) but if its ok for older tv gen (testing new soft in progress) it will stay upstairs if not ---> recycling centre :D Now Im using aged Openbox (10yrs old and still ok!) taken from kids but cant do it for long...
Like the look of Solo but will I need FBC? so to pay 40-50 quid extra for it? Never owned any of these before so hence my question...well :confused:
I though you wanted support and friendliness ... and you mention Vu+? :) :)
Why do you need FBC?

maxben
18-02-17, 14:35
Octagon just Added support for tbs tuner ..... constant change on both receivers:)

The drivers were on the feed already but there was a module missing


Unknown package 'kernel-module-dvb-usb-tbsusb

bassethound
18-02-17, 14:48
new update is great all my graphic font sizes have have grown about x3 in size i can read the epg/synopsis now:thumbsup:

abu baniaz
18-02-17, 16:09
ABM is an OE-A plugin. you can install it when using OpenATV.

krissjas
18-02-17, 16:49
I though you wanted support and friendliness ... and you mention Vu+? :) :)
Why do you need FBC?

Theres a question mark at FBC. Will a typical user need it? Dont know any of these stbs so unsure about support and friendliness, hence question mark again :p

Stanman
18-02-17, 17:05
If you can fit a unicable LNB then

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Stanman
18-02-17, 17:07
FBC is the way to go. More virtual tuners with 1 cable.

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twol
18-02-17, 18:12
Mutant have just added 8 virtual tuners without FBC :) just watched the video (German) but still trying to work out in my mind how it all works (will have to play tomorrow with supporting image) but means there may be other possibilities coming..... uses unicable switch Sat-IP and normal tuners.

..... but whatever @ Krissjas ... how many channels are you going to be recording at the same time??

krissjas
18-02-17, 20:11
This is the thing, we are not a massive pvr users, it just happens sometimes when 2 or max 3 programs/movies collides so dont think I will go that way unless I put that monoblock and start using Astra but still no more than 2-3 I guess. I had issues with recording ever since I started having fun with E2. GigaBlue was very temperamental, it could decide not to record just becouse, no matter what software I would put and Zgemma will record unless its not an HD channel which it would scrammble completely, but fine with all SD. So a good, solid pvr its a must with a new receiver

Andy_Hazza
18-02-17, 20:18
Mutant have just added 8 virtual tuners without FBC :) just watched the video (German) but still trying to work out in my mind how it all works (will have to play tomorrow with supporting image) but means there may be other possibilities coming..... uses unicable switch Sat-IP and normal tuners.

..... but whatever @ Krissjas ... how many channels are you going to be recording at the same time??

Its not just about recordings, having 8 virtual tuners and I can setup receivers in other rooms to feed off em instead of feeding cables all around the house.


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twol
18-02-17, 20:24
Then I would suggest the Octagon 4008 as it supports 1080 and 2160, has an excellent picture, upto 3 tuners, good remote and the support has been brilliant (its a German based company but technology from China or S. Korea) ... most are just S. Korean or Chinese operating through a central European distributor.
At least Octagon offer a host of products including E2 receivers.

With the ViX image (which will arrive shortly) it should deliver everything you need:)

twol
18-02-17, 20:26
Its not just about recordings, having 8 virtual tuners and I can setup receivers in other rooms to feed off em instead of feeding cables all around the house.


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Thats what Mut@nt are offering ... no different ...... and to be honest just what I do at the moment with basic normal receivers and multiswitch.... I still think FBA is a solution looking for a problem...that people like VU+ can make money from people with money to burn:)

At the moment it would appear ! .. that we might get multiple options based on different technologies and E2 images which will be interesting and great .. perhaps we will get true competition in this niche marketplace.

mrxbox360
18-02-17, 20:30
Thats what Mut@nt are offering ... no different ...... and to be honest just what I do at the moment with basic normal receivers .... I still think FBA is a solution looking for a problem...that people like VU+ can make money from:)

Will this be with the standard hd51 turners & will the mutant driver updates be included in the next vix release

twol
18-02-17, 21:03
Will this be with the standard hd51 turners & will the mutant driver updates be included in the next vix release
To be honest, no idea.
The drivers Yes, but at this moment I think its tied to one image and their implementation ... need more info to see if this is universally applicable or like HBBTV more of a continental EUropean offering

Andy_Hazza
18-02-17, 21:04
No issues with FBC here Twol, been a godsend. How much commission are Octagon giving you for all the praise..... hehe


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bassethound
18-02-17, 21:09
No issues with FBC here Twol, been a godsend. How much commission are Octagon giving you for all the praise..... hehe


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Possibly more than Vu+ are paying you Andy lol:trustme:

Andy_Hazza
18-02-17, 21:11
I just prefer quality thats all. [emoji4]


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bassethound
18-02-17, 21:17
The wife tells me that all the time:D

Andy_Hazza
18-02-17, 21:19
PMSL 🤣


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twol
18-02-17, 21:33
No issues with FBC here Twol, been a godsend. How much commission are Octagon giving you for all the praise..... hehe


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Oh I wish :) but I accept the quality angle, often what we buy has nothing to do with logic but is an emotional decision:)
I just think competition is good and anything that gives Vu+ a kick would be good, perhaps they would start to realise the value of their customer base.

Mut@nt were good with their support for the HD51, but Octagon have shown real marketing cuteness by assigning one of their people to the ATV forum to answer questions and provide ongoing support.
Makes people think they care even if it is normal customer support from many companies in teh IT business :) ... excluding Vu+ of course:):)

Forgot to say this virtual tuner facility(?) is already also offered by Edision on their E2 receivers.

Andy_Hazza
18-02-17, 21:41
Yeah you're right, competition is good. [emoji4] With regards the VT facility, won't be capable with the current hardware I'm guessing?


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rossi2000
18-02-17, 22:19
vTuners are USB tuners.

- support 8 vTuner

twol
19-02-17, 11:00
vTuners are USB tuners.

- support 8 vTuner
USB? .... This not the case:)
Having looked in more detail, whats offered is an "interesting" possibility if they can get a much more cost effective implementation. Basically works via a 2nd SATIP receiver attached directly to a Quattro LNB/multiswitch which converts all the Sat channels to Sat IP which can be picked up by any other hardware on the LAN.
In the examples both the Edision and HD51 are capable of picking up the SAT IP via the "virtual" tuners (8) which can be viewed/recorded as per normal services.
So potentially the HD51 (and any other capable receiver connected to the LAN) can have 10 DVB tuners (8 virtual and 2 static) ... but cost wise this needs some work because of the price of the SAT IP receiver(s):)

Having said that in my setup, it would be real easy to implement and cost wise not bad .. making my HD51 the hub of the house.

Andy_Hazza
19-02-17, 11:05
Not so appealing after all...... Vu+ have ready made boxes with 8 virtual tuners [emoji4]


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twol
19-02-17, 11:17
Ich
Not so appealing after all...... Vu+ have ready made boxes with 8 virtual tuners [emoji4]
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..... like everything this is down to price and flexability .... in my environment I can integrate a satip box and get complete flexability without FBC tuners or unicable and not pay all that money for a FBC receiver.

Andy_Hazza
19-02-17, 11:33
Vu+ Uno 4K is more appealing......


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DaMacFunkin
19-02-17, 12:14
USB? .... This not the case:)
Having looked in more detail, whats offered is an "interesting" possibility if they can get a much more cost effective implementation. Basically works via a 2nd SATIP receiver attached directly to a Quattro LNB/multiswitch which converts all the Sat channels to Sat IP which can be picked up by any other hardware on the LAN.
In the examples both the Edision and HD51 are capable of picking up the SAT IP via the "virtual" tuners (8) which can be viewed/recorded as per normal services.
So potentially the HD51 (and any other capable receiver connected to the LAN) can have 10 DVB tuners (8 virtual and 2 static) ... but cost wise this needs some work because of the price of the SAT IP receiver(s):)

Having said that in my setup, it would be real easy to implement and cost wise not bad .. making my HD51 the hub of the house.

Are you sure these are not USB tuners? Back In December Marcus from Sundtek told me they was in final development of USB tuners with 8 virtual addresses for both Sat and Cable, they was already working with E2, they just needed to nail the Android drivers as this is where they see the crux of the market with these devices. (Multiple tuner support was added to Android 7 apparently).

twol
19-02-17, 13:34
Are you sure these are not USB tuners? Back In December Marcus from Sundtek told me they was in final development of USB tuners with 8 virtual addresses for both Sat and Cable, they was already working with E2, they just needed to nail the Android drivers as this is where they see the crux of the market with these devices. (Multiple tuner support was added to Android 7 apparently).

It uses the SATIP plugin which can also support USB devices (I guess) but connects via an IP address to the SAT IP server and shows up on the client as a DVB-S tuner device. (from the demo video)
Available (depending on price:) ) SAT IP servers can connect from 4 -> 16 -> more (hotels) clients via Gigabit ethernet/WiFi removing the need for SAT/Cable tuners on the client receiver(s) (E2 receivers, TV's, PC's etc)

I am trying to find out what is special (if anything) with the recent Mutant driver update :) or in reality whether any E2 receiver can connect this way.

In my setup it would mean I could have E2 receivers (without tuners - saving money - in theory) connecting via eithernet/WiFi to a sat ip server....... and get multiple tuners without the need for Unicable, JESS etc

rossi2000
19-02-17, 13:59
I currently have my ultimo4k setup as a tuner server which feeds my other boxes in each room with everything, over the wired lan using fallback.

saved loads of cabling, so I don't need to get sat, cable and terrestrial into each room.

bassethound
19-02-17, 15:08
looks very interesting


Sat + DVB-C + DVB-T2 Nutzung mit OpenATV 6.0 auf OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKMxTUTMYtU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2JtrzcdS1Q

2xDVB-S2X Sat + DVB-C + DVB-T2 tuner together OCTAGON SF4008 4K UHD Triple E2 2x1.7GHz
Sat, cable and DVB-T2 sharing with Axing Soft SPU 6-02 antenna relay.

DVB-T2 DVB-C CATV changeover switch. 5Volt - 0Volt switchover

krissjas
19-02-17, 21:10
Then I would suggest the Octagon 4008 as it supports 1080 and 2160, has an excellent picture, upto 3 tuners, good remote and the support has been brilliant (its a German based company but technology from China or S. Korea) ... most are just S. Korean or Chinese operating through a central European distributor.
At least Octagon offer a host of products including E2 receivers.

With the ViX image (which will arrive shortly) it should deliver everything you need:)

OK. I have made up my mind and now its a choice between Octagon 4K and Mutant 4K only
(did my homework, all pros and cons between 6 receivers around £200)
so if You would have to buy today Your very first and main STB which one would You go for?? :wave:

(I promise, thats the last post about it, buying one tomorrow morning :p)

twol
19-02-17, 21:20
For me its not a straight forward answer ... both Mutant and Octagon are still updating their respective 4K receivers with drivers and functionality .. so on a given day it varies:)
However, on reflection I would say the Octagon would fit your requirements better, whilst I would be reluctant to give up my Mutant HD51 because it is a great receiver for testing and changing between images (but not something you need).

The other plus for the Octagon is that you can install 3 tuners vs 2 on the Mutant (although you can add usb tuners etc)

I am sure you will enjoy whichever you choose:)

Andy_Hazza
19-02-17, 21:23
Bearing in mind you need to use Oscam for your softcam as well. But if you are ok with Oscam I would probably go with the SF4008.


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bassethound
19-02-17, 21:55
the Octagon sf4008 also does a great job of up-scaling SD looking nearly HD quality on my 4k LG tv.

HD and 4k are fantastic.

krissjas
19-02-17, 22:29
Ok. Going for Octagon than, thanks for Your advice so far and see You around on that subforum once I got it (oscam is good enough as long as its stable). :thumbsup:

abu baniaz
19-02-17, 23:05
post questions in image support section please, unless it is hardware issue.

Huevos
20-02-17, 04:01
It uses the SATIP pluginYou can use that on any E2 box, so how is that a selling point for Octagon? :confused:

twol
20-02-17, 07:40
You can use that on any E2 box, so how is that a selling point for Octagon? :confused:

I asked the same Q. And the answer is that apparently Mutant in the new drivers can handle 8 virtual devices compared to 2 on other boxes (although I have seen that the Edision box can also do 8).. so giving an alternative solution to FBA/unicable needing only ethernet connectivity.

Andy_Hazza
20-02-17, 07:45
Like I and Rossi have already said, we can do this on our setup already. [emoji4]


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twol
20-02-17, 09:22
Like I and Rossi have already said, we can do this on our setup already. [emoji4]


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Yep, and you have spent money on FBC, an expensive receiver and Unicable to do it ...... so for you its a no brainer you have spent the money but it's nice to know that you don't have to go your way to get an equivalent solution.... whether its by using Rossi's server solution or by using SAT IP.
With my installed Quattro LNB/multiswitch setup going FBC to obtain the flexibility I already have is also a no brainer for me - there are alternatives that will work better for me .. as I have said - FBC is a solution looking for a problem to solve unless you are locked into Vu+ :) or setting up anew or from nothing

Lets agree to differ on this one:)

Andy_Hazza
20-02-17, 10:02
Can get Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB less than £50 Twol, thats a no brainer. You do talk rubbish at times, but thats just you...... hehe


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twol
20-02-17, 12:27
Can get Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB less than £50 Twol, thats a no brainer. You do talk rubbish at times, but thats just you...... hehe
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In my marginal signal area, 1) to get an adequate signal I need to be able to fit a feed horn on the LNB, 2) a group of us in this area coveringthe marginal areas across France, Germany and Italy have tried all the LNB makes and Inverto are CRAP for picking up weak signals.
So before you start talking rubbish engage your brain, not all People sit in your "perfect" signal location.
As I said lets agree to differ, there are alternative solutions of which FBC is one ... just accept that one solution doesn,t fit all:)
For

bassethound
20-02-17, 12:41
In my marginal signal area, 1) to get an adequate signal I need to be able to fit a feed horn on the LNB, 2) a group of us in this area coveringthe marginal areas across France, Germany and Italy have tried all the LNB makes and Inverto are CRAP for picking up weak signals.
So before you start talking rubbish engage your brain, not all People sit in your "perfect" signal location.
As I said lets agree to differ, there are alternative solutions of which FBC is one ... just accept that one solution doesn,t fit all:)
For

Wont buying a Vu+ box fix all these problem :lol3:

rossi2000
20-02-17, 13:19
no it won't, because thats a retarded answer.

bassethound
20-02-17, 13:39
no it won't, because thats a retarded answer.

good perhaps the thread will get back on track about the OCTAGON SF4008

rossi2000
20-02-17, 15:08
yep .

Andy_Hazza
20-02-17, 15:10
Agreed


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krissjas
20-02-17, 20:53
good perhaps the thread will get back on track about the OCTAGON SF4008

cant wait for mine to arrive now :rolleyes: :rolleyes: btw, whats the fastest wifi dongle I can use in it (any recomendations pls?)

Andy_Hazza
20-02-17, 21:04
Can you not hardwire instead, far better than any wifi IMO. [emoji4]


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krissjas
20-02-17, 21:08
I know but after I have re-decorated the lounge now that would have to be a cable from one end to another, not nice...

Andy_Hazza
20-02-17, 21:24
Drill out n run ethernet along external walling n back in?


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garryboy
20-02-17, 21:42
Powerline adapters work perfectly for me


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bassethound
20-02-17, 21:49
Hard wired is best or powerline adapters are 2nd best

Huevos
20-02-17, 21:56
In my marginal signal area, 1) to get an adequate signal I need to be able to fit a feed horn on the LNB, 2) a group of us in this area coveringthe marginal areas across France, Germany and Italy have tried all the LNB makes and Inverto are CRAP for picking up weak signals.What? This Inverto Unicable LNB is brilliant for weak signals. Have you ever tried one?

john doe
24-02-17, 09:24
powerline plugs are the best option, especially if you donr want the hassle of drilling and running Ethernet cable. I had to go with powerlines plugs. just make sure you get really good ones. I have devolo

garryboy
24-02-17, 09:28
I have 4 tplink nano. £20 a pair in Argos. Never gave me any problems


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watchskies
24-02-17, 15:50
My SF4008 arrived last week and I have to say I am a disappointed with the performance of this unit.

In my opinion my Mutant 2400 wipes the floor with it in regard to video performance I give the Mutant 97% and the Octagon 88%. They are both connected at 1080p to a Kuro plasma display Mutant running VIX Octagon Openatv 6.0.

Of course the SF4008 supports 4K but perhaps the scaler on the Octagon is having an adverse effect.

I am planning to get a 4K TV later in the year so only time will tell or perhaps when VIX is ready I will install on the SF4008 and let you know.

john doe
24-02-17, 16:10
My SF4008 arrived last week and I have to say I am a disappointed with the performance of this unit.

In my opinion my Mutant 2400 wipes the floor with it in regard to video performance I give the Mutant 97% and the Octagon 88%. They are both connected at 1080p to a Kuro plasma display Mutant running VIX Octagon Openatv 6.0.

Of course the SF4008 supports 4K but perhaps the scaler on the Octagon is having an adverse effect.

I am planning to get a 4K TV later in the year so only time will tell or perhaps when VIX is ready I will install on the SF4008 and let you know.

when you say performance can you be more specific? mine is running openatv 6.0 and is great.

watchskies
24-02-17, 16:22
when you say performance can you be more specific? mine is running openatv 6.0 and is great.

The picture appears soft and not as detailed as the Mutant and the colours don't look as natural, maybe its a driver issue as I see Bassethound mentions updates in another thread.

Is there any news as to when VIX will be ready ?

bassethound
24-02-17, 17:05
Vix and openatv 6.0 and all the other images will all use the drivers from Octagon so the installing Vix wont magically make the image better than any other image.

To get the best out of the box try some euro sats much better image quality than UK providers give.

Still find the picture better than my old Ultimo which was soft images and sd was bad on UK tv

john doe
24-02-17, 17:24
agree with bassethound. the octagon picture image is much better than my solo2 and I've noticed that the sound is better

Andy_Hazza
24-02-17, 18:34
My SF4008 arrived last week and I have to say I am a disappointed with the performance of this unit.

In my opinion my Mutant 2400 wipes the floor with it in regard to video performance I give the Mutant 97% and the Octagon 88%. They are both connected at 1080p to a Kuro plasma display Mutant running VIX Octagon Openatv 6.0.

Of course the SF4008 supports 4K but perhaps the scaler on the Octagon is having an adverse effect.

I am planning to get a 4K TV later in the year so only time will tell or perhaps when VIX is ready I will install on the SF4008 and let you know.

I agree the Mut@nt HD2400 is a great satellite receiver and the PQ is great too.


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dlmlus
24-02-17, 19:11
My SF4008 arrived last week and I have to say I am a disappointed with the performance of this unit.

In my opinion my Mutant 2400 wipes the floor with it in regard to video performance I give the Mutant 97% and the Octagon 88%. They are both connected at 1080p to a Kuro plasma display Mutant running VIX Octagon Openatv 6.0.

Of course the SF4008 supports 4K but perhaps the scaler on the Octagon is having an adverse effect.


There,s something wrong somewhere then, cos my sf4008 is excellent.

I am planning to get a 4K TV later in the year so only time will tell or perhaps when VIX is ready I will install on the SF4008 and let you know.

There,s something wrong somewhere then, cos my sf4008 is excellent.

I have it connected to a 4Ktv and the PQ is 1st class.
Even the sd channels are good.
And the freesat 4K demo channel is excellent.
My preveious box Technomate 3T had a very good picture, But nowhere near the sf4008.

skippie
24-02-17, 21:04
the Octagon sf4008 also does a great job of up-scaling SD looking nearly HD quality on my 4k LG tv.

HD and 4k are fantastic.

i got a LG Oled55e6 but the sd picture doesn't look that good, what is your settings for SD ?

dlmlus
24-02-17, 21:21
My SF4008 arrived last week and I have to say I am a disappointed with the performance of this unit.

In my opinion my Mutant 2400 wipes the floor with it in regard to video performance I give the Mutant 97% and the Octagon 88%. They are both connected at 1080p to a Kuro plasma display Mutant running VIX Octagon Openatv 6.0.

Of course the SF4008 supports 4K but perhaps the scaler on the Octagon is having an adverse effect.


I am planning to get a 4K TV later in the year so only time will tell or perhaps when VIX is ready I will install on the SF4008 and let you know.

Of course the SF4008 supports 4K but perhaps the scaler on the Octagon is having an adverse effect.

Have you updated your sf4008 with "atv 6" updates ?
could be the reason.

watchskies
26-02-17, 10:52
Morning Guys.. just giving you an update.

Firstly let me set the scene by telling you the mutant is connected via a sky dish at the BACK of the house, the octagon is connected to a motorised dish on the SIDE of the house.

When I had time yesterday I got the ladders and checked the motorised dish, I found that the cables were not fully tightened so I retightened them and reset up USALS on the octagon, that did the trick the picture quality is now a match for the mutant and occasionally the fine detail looks better.

I watched "Andrew Marr" made me concentrate on the picture quality not the picture content :D:D

I am now happy with the octagon which is fully updated and cant wait till I get the 4k TV.

In conclusion "Bloody Doris"

gabriele
26-02-17, 11:35
Morning Guys.. just giving you an update.

Firstly let me set the scene by telling you the mutant is connected via a sky dish at the BACK of the house, the octagon is connected to a motorised dish on the SIDE of the house.

When I had time yesterday I got the ladders and checked the motorised dish, I found that the cables were not fully tightened so I retightened them and reset up USALS on the octagon, that did the trick the picture quality is now a match for the mutant and occasionally the fine detail looks better.

I watched "Andrew Marr" made me concentrate on the picture quality not the picture content :D:D

I am now happy with the octagon which is fully updated and cant wait till I get the 4k TV.

In conclusion "Bloody Doris"

So nice to see someone report what they have done that fixes an issue :)

machare
28-02-17, 20:58
Has anyone been able to use an Octagon SF4008 multistream feature to receive all the French channels on 11509H (MIS1, MIS4 and MIS6) and 12648V (MIS1, MIS2 and MIS3), on 5W, or know for certain that this would be possible?

twol
28-02-17, 21:10
I know there was chat about it on ATV, and the Octagon guy was involved, so i am assuming that it was all resolved.
There is a thread you can follow or perhaps pick up by Google.

Huevos
28-02-17, 21:26
Of course it is possible.

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machare
28-02-17, 21:49
Well thank you, for me it is probably a more useful feature than 4K as the are some channels that we might want to watch.

Tunder
01-03-17, 21:29
Hello Gentleman
Do you know if this box can do blindscan now, I heard they were working on it, just wonder if is operational already.
Regards.
Tunder

twol
01-03-17, 21:48
Hello Gentleman
Do you know if this box can do blindscan now, I heard they were working on it, just wonder if is operational already.
Regards.
Tunder
As far as I can see Cable only.

bassethound
02-03-17, 16:35
loving my box so far might even buy a second one for my bedroom cant think of any negatives so far even liking ATV 6 might not even try vix:sofahide:

john doe
02-03-17, 18:50
loving my box so far might even buy a second one for my bedroom cant think of any negatives so far even liking ATV 6 might not even try vix:sofahide:

am thinking same

Sicilian
03-03-17, 08:46
OpenViX released here http://www.openvix.co.uk/index.php/downloads/octagon-images/sf4008/

grizzuk
04-03-17, 02:57
After reading the posts in here about this box i decided to order 1 (from here ofc) :thumbsup:
can't wait to try it and vix5 out as well :cool:

dlmlus
04-03-17, 11:33
After reading the posts in here about this box i decided to order 1 (from here ofc) :thumbsup:
can't wait to try it and vix5 out as well :cool:

You won,t be dissappointed !!

ManyG
05-03-17, 12:51
Hello
I am a newbie to this thread. I am thinking of obtaining the Octagon SF4008, but there are some questions I need to ask
- Is the digital output compatible the DAC's found in most stereo integrated amplifiers. Does it require the decoding of Dolby digital?
- Is the VIX image fully operational?
The picture taken from Antenne 2 looks great.
Best wishes

machare
05-03-17, 13:26
AIUI you would need an amplifier with an Optical S/PDIF input. I would expect it to work with the equipment that I have, which does not have dolby.

The Vix image has been released and will have been tested beforehand. You can read what people have said in the Vix forum.

If you have not flashed a receiver before, you may find it easier to order a box with Vix already installed (FOC)

twol
05-03-17, 14:14
Hello
I am a newbie to this thread. I am thinking of obtaining the Octagon SF4008, but there are some questions I need to ask
- Is the digital output compatible the DAC's found in most stereo integrated amplifiers. Does it require the decoding of Dolby digital?
- Is the VIX image fully operational?
The picture taken from Antenne 2 looks great.
Best wishes

I haven't tried the optical ouput, but I always feed the hdmi through my Onkyo receivers to get AC3 when it is available on the service without any issues.
The ViX Image is fully operational
And depending on the capabilities of your TV it can provide an excellent picture.

machare
05-03-17, 15:48
P.S. What I actually do for sound is to connect my TV to my HiFi using optical S/PDIF. That way the sound from the TV goes to the HiFi regardless of the signal source. Because of a fault on my Samsung TV, sometimes the TV and the HiFi sound are not synchronized. The TV has a facility for adjusting the synchronization, it just sometimes appears to forget the setting.

twol
05-03-17, 16:35
All my sources go through my amps (AppleTV, Sonos, BluRay, Media player, E2 receiver, Ipad streaming) so i pick up the best sound achievable ... don't know why you would do it any other way..... but ......always reasons:)

ManyG
05-03-17, 17:04
Thanks for the advice to ask for Vix to be flashed at time of sale.
My equipment contains some obsolete items and needs to be modernised. However I want the upgrading to be done in a way that is not too expensive and avoids any problems. I need stereo, rather full surround sound and Dolby Digital/ DTS will scramble many DACs and digital integrated stereo receivers. I agree that the sound output from the satellite receiver is best routed directly to the amplifier, though I did not hear any discernible difference when, sometime ago, I routed sound through a TV on another system. Assuming the digital output on the Octagon SF 4008 is indeed a Dolby output, another alternative is to use a specialist Dolby DAC and route the output into an analogue amplifier which I would then not to have to replace.
Best wishes

mrxbox360
05-03-17, 19:46
On my mutant hd51 running vix 5 ive connect by hdmi to my samsung smart 4k tv wich is connected by the optical out on the tv to my bose solo 5 sound bar, so far no synch issues & considering the size of bose you get really decent sound ok it will never shake the windows like my old yamaha 5.1 set up. the main points for me was decent sound - compact size & its all controlled through my logitech harmony 650 remote.

gammgubbe
06-03-17, 15:59
Hi,

I have been playing with my SF4008 since last weekend. I hope blindscan will be fixed soon. There is plugin but it doesn't work. Lack of driver I have learned. Kodi would be nice addition too. Saw it in the feed but it doesn't work.

One thing that bothers me is when scanning a frequency you have to set FEC. There is no Auto selection. I hope this can be fixed in an update of OpenATV 6.0.

bassethound
06-03-17, 16:26
Preparing Kodi in the git for sf4008


https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&sp=nmt4&u=https://github.com/oe-alliance/oe-alliance-core/tree/4.0/meta-brands/meta-octagon&usg=ALkJrhicjG6A79cLXO2EAqOw4R7TfwzxWA

twol
06-03-17, 17:10
Preparing Kodi in the git for sf4008


https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=de&sp=nmt4&u=https://github.com/oe-alliance/oe-alliance-core/tree/4.0/meta-brands/meta-octagon&usg=ALkJrhicjG6A79cLXO2EAqOw4R7TfwzxWA
Although this is more generic and not Octagon Brand specific :):)

rajigagi
07-03-17, 00:37
Hi all,
So Sorry if this is a bit of a dumb question but I'd appreciate some help please?
Iv'e read that Vix is now available for the box but it isn't showing up as one of the pre-loaded options on WOS so how do I get it?
Any help would be very much appreciated and thanks in advance ;)

khan888
07-03-17, 00:51
Hi all,
So Sorry if this is a bit of a dumb question but I'd appreciate some help please?
Iv'e read that Vix is now available for the box but it isn't showing up as one of the pre-loaded options on WOS so how do I get it?
Any help would be very much appreciated and thanks in advance ;)

It's not a stupid question at all, the link is below you need to flash via USB

http://www.openvix.co.uk/index.php/downloads/octagon-images/sf4008/


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gammgubbe
07-03-17, 12:05
It's not a stupid question at all, the link is below you need to flash via USB

http://www.openvix.co.uk/index.php/downloads/octagon-images/sf4008/


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What differs openvix from openatv? I used OpenPli for my DM800Hd, if Vix looks more like Pli maybe I should change too. I would like Powervu and if possible also BBC at 27.5W, would it be easier with Vix? To be honest I have not tried any of it in OpenATV 6.0, still new to the box and trying to figure out how everything works. :) Got Oscam Emu and Biss work quite easily though.

twol
07-03-17, 12:49
As far as I am aware, OpenATV was sourced from OpenViX and both pull code changes at times from OpenPli.
Since the origination of the OA-Alliance where the build resources are shared, they have gone separate ways and there are differences in packages built into the images and the way that some things are handled (eg settings backup, image backup and restore).
To me OpenViX is more user friendly both in finding things (usually in one place, compared to ATV where often you find Menu/Plugin information/controls in multiple options - although in German its a bit easier) and in installed plugins.
As you will have seen from the OpenPli thread on 27.5W, there are ViX users, but cannot comment further.

Also if you have read the register information, you will be aware that talk about illegal access is not covered on this forum :)

bassethound
07-03-17, 13:06
What differs openvix from openatv? I used OpenPli for my DM800Hd, if Vix looks more like Pli maybe I should change too. I would like Powervu and if possible also BBC at 27.5W, would it be easier with Vix? To be honest I have not tried any of it in OpenATV 6.0, still new to the box and trying to figure out how everything works. :) Got Oscam Emu and Biss work quite easily though.

use Ncam 1.1 to get P@wervu working its based on Oscam but has more functionality

john doe
07-03-17, 14:35
use Ncam 1.1 to get P@wervu working its based on Oscam but has more functionality

ncam works flawlessly for me.

Garglo
15-03-17, 00:22
Firstly this Octagon receiver is FABULOUS and Vix is the best image out there. Just sold my Vu+Duo2.

I need a button on the Octagons remote (eg F2 or other) to power up the LG 4K OLED TV. (Wife wants less remotes)

The Octagon has:- Menu/Setup/System/User Interface/Button Setup/ where from here or is it not possible.

Do I have to use the Vu Remote on the Octagon by:-
WARNING DON'T TRY THIS ... UNLESS YOU HAVE A Vu+ REMOTE
Menu/Setup/System/Input devices/ OK Remote Control type >>> Vu+ and others
This works but one has only the Vu+ Remote working. The Octagon Remote dead.
The TV button on the Vu+ Remote then can be programmed to switch on the TV.
Pity because the Octagon Remote has good features and button, feel wise, maybe better.

Garglo
15-03-17, 00:35
WARNING DON'T TRY THIS ... UNLESS YOU HAVE A Vu+ REMOTE

I just freaked out because I went back to the default setting (Meaning Octagon Remote) but Vu+ remote remained the only live working remote.
Powered receiver off and presto the Octagon remote was working again. WHEW

garryboy
15-03-17, 07:55
You can use the HDMi cec to get power the TV on and off with octagon remote.

So if you put the box in standby the TV also goes into standby and vice versa.

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gammgubbe
15-03-17, 08:54
I just freaked out because I went back to the default setting (Meaning Octagon Remote) but Vu+ remote remained the only live working remote.
Powered receiver off and presto the Octagon remote was working again. WHEW

Interesting.. say you add wrong remote by mistake, is there a fallback where I can go back to Octagon remote? Without re-flash obviously :) Best would be if Octagon remote is active + whatever you want to add (Vu, Dreambox etc).

Andy_Hazza
15-03-17, 09:19
Link your remote to the tv.


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garryboy
15-03-17, 10:20
Interesting.. say you add wrong remote by mistake, is there a fallback where I can go back to Octagon remote? Without re-flash obviously :) Best would be if Octagon remote is active + whatever you want to add (Vu, Dreambox etc).

Can use Webif to connect to the reciever which includes a remote control and can use that to reset to defualt.


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rajigagi
19-03-17, 18:41
Hi all :) just received an email from WOS with this in it - NEW TECHNOMATE TRIPLE TUNER COMBO MODEL 1X DVB-S2 + 2X DVB-C 4K, so was wondering if anyone has had the chance to compare it to the SF4008 please?
Thanks in advance :cool:

twol
19-03-17, 20:45
I have no idea about technomate, but the difference with the SF4008 (which technology wise is a typical S. Korean or Chinese derivative) is that Octagon are a German company that is trying very hard to support the product and provide added function ..... very rare in this business.

bassethound
20-03-17, 01:05
I would stick with the SF4008 it will have more support from image builders and octagon them self which has been outstanding so far

Sicilian
20-03-17, 05:49
I have no idea about technomate, but the difference with the SF4008 (which technology wise is a typical S. Korean or Chinese derivative) is that Octagon are a German company that is trying very hard to support the product and provide added function ..... very rare in this business.

???? What are you on about? Technomate are a British Company and their E2 receivers are Korean manufactured just like the Octagon SF4008. For the record Technomate also provide excellent support. Next OpenViX build will have OpenMultiboot on the TM-Twin 4K and Kodi will also be available in the future.

Sicilian
20-03-17, 05:51
I have no idea about technomate, but the difference with the SF4008 (which technology wise is a typical S. Korean or Chinese derivative) is that Octagon are a German company that is trying very hard to support the product and provide added function ..... very rare in this business.

TM-Twin 4K actually have a newer spec CPU ;) It already has OpenATV and OpenViX images. Also OpenPLi based 4D image.

twol
20-03-17, 09:35
???? What are you on about? Technomate are a British Company and their E2 receivers are Korean manufactured just like the Octagon SF4008. For the record Technomate also provide excellent support. Next OpenViX build will have OpenMultiboot on the TM-Twin 4K and Kodi will also be available in the future.
Sicilian, if you actually READ my comment, I said NOTHING about Technomate bcause I know NOTHING about them ... if you read that as negative that's your issue.

sasho
20-03-17, 11:57
Huevos,
how would you rate tuner sensitivity of sf4008 based on your experience with many other E2 boxes on 28.2 E

thank you for shots
so multistream Is supported with ViX Image
I have read that only tuner B supporting It
which Is your configuration - 3 x DVB S2 tuners ?


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bassethound
20-03-17, 12:09
The Technomate TM-Twin 4K is pig ugly and the remote looks like it was made by a blue peter contestant, come on Technomate take some time and effort and make your products look appealing for costumers do not use parts from the left over parts bin :thumbsup:

gammgubbe
21-03-17, 13:49
???? What are you on about? Technomate are a British Company and their E2 receivers are Korean manufactured just like the Octagon SF4008. For the record Technomate also provide excellent support. Next OpenViX build will have OpenMultiboot on the TM-Twin 4K and Kodi will also be available in the future.

There are two things I badly want to see on this receiver: Blind scan and Kodi. :D While we wait, is there a substitute for Kodi that works on SF4008? Maybe XBMC...

rajigagi
21-03-17, 15:57
The Technomate TM-Twin 4K is pig ugly and the remote looks like it was made by a blue peter contestant, come on Technomate take some time and effort and make your products look appealing for costumers do not use parts from the left over parts bin :thumbsup:

Whilst I agree with this in principle, bassetthound, I would also say that the practical side of a good working device versus eye candy is much more important. We have all had devices with bells and whistles that looked the part but then fell way way short of our expectations with their workings. :eek: and the TM, though it might not look the part, sounds as though the early signs/thoughts suggest it plays the part. :cool:

bassethound
21-03-17, 16:31
The box specs look great with a great price it will sell well im sure but not sure it would look good in most peoples AV setup it should be great for a bedroom box :thumbsup:

Might even get my self one in the future if reviews are good always been a technomate fan as the hardware is great.


http://www.technomate.com/product_images/g/477/TMTWIN4K__72728_std.jpg

twol
21-03-17, 17:09
Whilst I agree with this in principle, bassetthound, I would also say that the practical side of a good working device versus eye candy is much more important. We have all had devices with bells and whistles that looked the part but then fell way way short of our expectations with their workings. :eek: and the TM, though it might not look the part, sounds as though the early signs/thoughts suggest it plays the part. :cool:
Can only agree, would not rate either the HD51 or SF4008 as great looking boxes in fact most manufacturers seem to have no idea when it comes down to looks, just ship black metal tin cans (margins, margins :) ) but as long as the technical internals are good and the support then so be it :) .. then again on remotes they really should think harder ..... just acquired a mouse remote (for something else) that is a remote, mouse and on the back a keyboard .... and it works! Obviously Chinese and not expensive (reliability - time will tell), so why cannot these guys provide better remotes?? :)

machare
22-03-17, 02:01
Hi all :) just received an email from WOS with this in it - NEW TECHNOMATE TRIPLE TUNER COMBO MODEL 1X DVB-S2 + 2X DVB-C 4K, so was wondering if anyone has had the chance to compare it to the SF4008 please?
Thanks in advance :cool:Well 2x DVB-C would not be much use to me as I don't have cable. I have just bought an SF4008 with 2x DVB-S2 and 2x DVB-C/T/T2 which means it can receive Terrestrial TV as well. (one useable T2 tuner as only 3 tuners in total can be used). The ability of the SF4008 to receive the French multistream channels from 5w was a decisive factor. It reminds me of my analogue/digital Technomate receiver which I got when French analogue channels were broadcast from 5w.

bibic
22-03-17, 13:00
Hello to all,
This receiver has one or tho card readers? Not important for me common interface.
Thanks.

machare
22-03-17, 15:21
Hello to all,
This receiver has one or tho card readers? Not important for me common interface.
Thanks.There is one slot for a card and one for a CAM. I have not used either.

aido
22-03-17, 21:07
I've read good things about the upscaler in the SF4008 and HD51 (and I'm guessing the new Technomate TM-Twin-4k will be the same)

I've currently got a GI LX3 which I've been extremely happy with and just wondered if anyone had both and had done a direct comparison as I'm wondering if I'd get a better picture on the SD channels by buying a newer 4k box please?

Thanks in advance!

twol
22-03-17, 21:28
I have always been pleased with my 1080HD receivers (ET8500), but both the HD51 & the SF4008 4K boxes have really sharp pictures that I feel are better even at 1080, on both my Panasonic Plasma TV in the lounge and my 4K Monitor in my "office".

So overall I am really pleased at the result and feel that the change has been worth the move to 4K capable receivers.

Sicilian
23-03-17, 06:50
I have always been pleased with my 1080HD receivers (ET8500), but both the HD51 & the SF4008 4K boxes have really sharp pictures that I feel are better even at 1080, on both my Panasonic Plasma TV in the lounge and my 4K Monitor in my "office".

So overall I am really pleased at the result and feel that the change has been worth the move to 4K capable receivers.

Sorry I don't agree, all depends on the TV. I've got two 4K tv's, one is a £2K LG OLED, that's great with a 4K box, my other TV is a £500 LG 4K LCD. Any boxes connected to this TV are better set to 1080p. PQ with the lower end 4K LCD is much better with receiver set at 1080p and let TV do the uplscaling.

aido
23-03-17, 08:23
That's what I'm trying to work out please @Sicilian - I have the LX3 set to output 1080i and I let my LG E6 handle the deinterlacing which works well for me to date (I turned off autoresolution for SD as the wife moaned about how long it takes everything in the chain to resync accordingly when she flicks through a HD to SD channel).

I keep reading that people are seeing better picture quality on the 4K boxes than they had on the older 1080i/p boxes.

I like the LX3 which has been a great box, just getting itchy for an upgrade :)

twol
23-03-17, 08:28
Sorry I don't agree, all depends on the TV. I've got two 4K tv's, one is a £2K LG OLED, that's great with a 4K box, my other TV is a £500 LG 4K LCD. Any boxes connected to this TV are better set to 1080p. PQ with the lower end 4K LCD is much better with receiver set at 1080p and let TV do the uplscaling.

.. and I would agree, I (as said) usually use 1080 (P) on my boxes to very good Plasma TV/Monitor .. but picture from both 2160 capable receivers is better than the ET8500, going to either 1080 TV or 2160 monitor. (Which I think was the original question?)

It absolutly depends also on the TV and the users perspective which is why I wouldn,t buy some market leading brands, but as many people buy these brands I try not to be too critical.

Sicilian
23-03-17, 08:33
.. and I would agree, I (as said) usually use 1080 (P) on my boxes to very good Plasma TV/Monitor .. but picture from both 2160 capable receivers is better than the ET8500, going to either 1080 TV or 2160 monitor. (Which I think was the original question?)

It absolutly depends also on the TV and the users perspective which is why I wouldn,t buy some market leading brands, but as many people buy these brands I try not to be too critical.

I've got a 4K LCD and two other smaller LCD's, my ET8500 gives just as good PQ output as SF4008 and HD51 set to 1080p.

Huevos
23-03-17, 08:52
I have read that only tuner B supporting ItThat is a bug in NimManager in some other images.

On a satellite like 28E you are not going to see any difference in tuner sensitivity as the signal is so strong. Tuner seems fine to me, but I'm using it to watch tv, not dx.

twol
23-03-17, 09:07
I've got a 4K LCD and two other smaller LCD's, my ET8500 gives just as good PQ output as SF4008 and HD51 set to 1080p.

Lucky you, as I said its also down to having a good quality TV and user perception :)

Garglo
24-03-17, 13:32
I have the 4K Octagon plugged into a HDMI input on a SONY STRDH750 RECEIVER and that plugged into the HDMI Input on the LG 4K OLED TV. When the SOUND volume is adjusted on the SONY amp, the TV picture blanks for about 5 secs then the sound mutes for another 2 secs and then both picture and sound return to normal. Touch the volume control again, the problem repeats. This only happens with the Octagon Receiver. I have Blue Ray player and a Vu+Solo2 connected to inputs on the amp and there is no problem with picture and sound loss. Octagon and Vu+Solo2 have OpenVix images and the settings in the HDMI CEC are the same. Both off. Have tried all the settings in the SONY amp HDMI settings to no avail. Can any one solve this annoying problem.

moulin
24-03-17, 13:37
I'm sorry - I'm going to have to throw myself on the mercy of kind people on here.... I know I'm being very stupid but.....

4008 arrived today, I can see it's incredibly clever, and thanks to the Wizard I've even got it showing the Multistream French TV channels on 5 deg W, far more than I expected in half an hour...

But oh oh oh the rest of it.... I can't even see how to organise/delete channels. I've looked for a manual on line but I suppose there are so many software variants that maybe this simply doesn't exist.

I've looked in MENU but for channel operations I can't see this helps. At this stage I just want to clear out all the channels that I don't need or that it won't get..... Putting the channels in frequency order or alphbetical order would be better than nothing - surely there must be a way to do that. Can one batch delete (like on a Technomate, I'm much more used to that system of menus).

So please, could some one point me to a fool's (and I mean fool's!) guide on getting started with basic stuff. Mine has got Open Arm I think loaded on it.

10/10 to the sponsors though, they answered my presale questions and ordering and delivery were top-notch.

machare
24-03-17, 14:23
I have the 4K Octagon plugged into a HDMI input on a SONY STRDH750 RECEIVER and that plugged into the HDMI Input on the LG 4K OLED TV. When the SOUND volume is adjusted on the SONY amp, the TV picture blanks for about 5 secs then the sound mutes for another 2 secs and then both picture and sound return to normal. Touch the volume control again, the problem repeats. This only happens with the Octagon Receiver. I have Blue Ray player and a Vu+Solo2 connected to inputs on the amp and there is no problem with picture and sound loss. Octagon and Vu+Solo2 have OpenVix images and the settings in the HDMI CEC are the same. Both off. Have tried all the settings in the SONY amp HDMI settings to no avail. Can any one solve this annoying problem.
I connect my SF4008 to my Samsung TV with HDMI. I then have an optical SPDIF feed from the TV to my hifi. I use the HDMI CEC settings on the SF4008 to make it switch the TV off and on, and the volume control & mute contrils on the SF4008 remote are ignored.

machare
24-03-17, 14:41
But oh oh oh the rest of it.... I can't even see how to organise/delete channels. I've looked for a manual on line but I suppose there are so many software variants that maybe this simply doesn't exist.

I've looked in MENU but for channel operations I can't see this helps. At this stage I just want to clear out all the channels that I don't need or that it won't get..... Putting the channels in frequency order or alphbetical order would be better than nothing - surely there must be a way to do that. Can one batch delete (like on a Technomate, I'm much more used to that system of menus).
I use Dreamboxedit to download the channel data from my receiver to my PC. I then rearrrange the channels into bouquets the way I like, and then send them back to the receiver.

You can download Dreamboxedit to your Windows PC from the General Download/Settings editors section of this website. There are other editors.

I would think the above will work with any version of Linux that you may be running

If your a fan of SKY channel numbers, there are other solutions. - Maybe just Vix

To select a bouquet on the receiver, press the up arrow on the remote, then the blue button, then choose the bouquet you want.

The receiver will then stay using that bouquet until you change to, another one.

moulin
24-03-17, 18:24
Thanks machare - appreciated; it was after all you who inspired me to try this box! Amazed at how easily it found the French multistreams, although for some reason it's missed LCI. I'm sure I'll get used to the box, although I don't find the menus intuitive (I note they change depending on where one is within the box's functions). Just a question of having a good play and perhaps a delete!

Cheers

msjm1313
24-03-17, 18:56
Hi, I bought two units of Octagon 4K SF4008. Both stuck during flashing (Openvix). Display shows "rootfile system". Tried recovery flash on 3 different usb stick without any results. Any advice?

machare
24-03-17, 19:00
If you look at:
http://en.kingofsat.net/pos-5W-fta.php
you will see that LCI is on 12648 V 29500 Rec 8/9 Stream 3.

So go to: Setup/Service Searching/Manual Scan

Set 'Type of scan' to 'Predefined transponder'

Use the right arrow to scroll through the transponders until you get the one above and then press OK to start the Scan.

You should then get LCI and you may find the receiver switches to some encrypted Canal+ channel.
If that happens, exit the menus, press the up arrow, blue, and select the 'Last scanned' bouquet. You can the select LCI (hopefully)

moulin
24-03-17, 19:11
Thanks machare - I'll give it a go. Might as well get the full house.

If I can find out how to use favourites that will make my life easier, and I WILL have a go at the channel editing idea you mentioned, but not until tomorrow!

machare
24-03-17, 19:11
Hi, I bought two units of Octagon 4K SF4008. Both stuck during flashing (Openvix). Display shows "rootfile system". Tried recovery flash on 3 different usb stick without any results. Any advice?I flashed mine with Vix 5.0.004. To run the flash I had to press the button just to the left of the front panel display. I used the socket under the flap to the right of the front panel display. I happened to be using a USB 3.0 stick.

I hope you downloaded the correct version of Vix for SF4008 receiver.

twol
24-03-17, 19:20
Hi, I bought two units of Octagon 4K SF4008. Both stuck during flashing (Openvix). Display shows "rootfile system". Tried recovery flash on 3 different usb stick without any results. Any advice?
Make sure they are formatted fat32, unfortunately until you find a stick that works this is like drawing teeth, what were you flashing from?
Does it still boot to the original image?

moulin
24-03-17, 19:23
Well I now have LCI but for some reason it's completely changed the channel list, the numbers I wrote down for my most used channels have all altered - not by a few - but by lots. A whole lot of channels in the 2000s have simply disappeared.

Really this software is a disaster!

Is there a way of deleting everything and just scanning in my choices? If I do a factory reset will it kill Open ATV - if so will I be left with any software at all?

I'm now frankly frightened of breaking this receiver (see msjm1313's post) and am beginning to think it's going to go into the attic with a label "learn not to buy anything so complicated again".

msjm1313
24-03-17, 19:26
All sticks fat32 formatted they works on other box (VU+4K). I used front socket under flap. On original image stuck on boot.
I tried open atv.6.0, 5.3, Opensi4.0, Openhdf 5.5.
No progress. Stuck on "rootfile system".

twol
24-03-17, 19:42
Well I now have LCI but for some reason it's completely changed the channel list, the numbers I wrote down for my most used channels have all altered - not by a few - but by lots. A whole lot of channels in the 2000s have simply disappeared.

Really this software is a disaster!

Is there a way of deleting everything and just scanning in my choices? If I do a factory reset will it kill Open ATV - if so will I be left with any software at all?

I'm now frankly frightened of breaking this receiver (see msjm1313's post) and am beginning to think it's going to go into the attic with a label "learn not to buy anything so complicated again".

Actually this software is pretty straight forward ...... but to start...
1. raise your own post rather than using this one.
2. specify your config (satellites, setup, image etc)
Then we can help.
At the moment I have no idea of your setup or what you are trying to do.

It really is not that difficult, once you tell us what you are trying to do!!!

twol
24-03-17, 19:47
Hi, I bought two units of Octagon 4K SF4008. Both stuck during flashing (Openvix). Display shows "rootfile system". Tried recovery flash on 3 different usb stick without any results. Any advice?

Where did you buy them from? If WoS talk to them:)
I normally couch flash everything but recently had to usb flash the SF4008 and the only only stick that worked was my very oldest .. slow and small size (not even sure of the size but its not a lot!)

msjm1313
24-03-17, 20:04
I tried to flash Openvix and few other images. I have 2 units of Octagon SF4008. Both stuck, display shows Rootfile System. I used 3 different USB formatted on fat32. For flashing i used USB under front flap. Also i tried recovery flash. Both units stuck. Pls help me.

bassethound
24-03-17, 20:19
Try re formatting the usb with HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool formats to FAT32

machare
24-03-17, 20:48
Well I now have LCI but for some reason it's completely changed the channel list, the numbers I wrote down for my most used channels have all altered - not by a few - but by lots. A whole lot of channels in the 2000s have simply disappeared.

Really this software is a disaster!

Is there a way of deleting everything and just scanning in my choices? If I do a factory reset will it kill Open ATV - if so will I be left with any software at all?

I'm now frankly frightened of breaking this receiver (see msjm1313's post) and am beginning to think it's going to go into the attic with a label "learn not to buy anything so complicated again".Have you got Dreamboxedit working?

Personally I avoid complete satellite scans. I just scan the transponders where I know there is something I want.

twol
24-03-17, 20:49
I tried to flash Openvix and few other images. I have 2 units of Octagon SF4008. Both stuck, display shows Rootfile System. I used 3 different USB formatted on fat32. For flashing i used USB under front flap. Also i tried recovery flash. Both units stuck. Pls help me.

If basstehounds idea doesn,t work then talk to supplier..

moulin
24-03-17, 21:05
OK - twol - and sorry.

I'll start a new thread later or tomorrow morning.

dlmlus
24-03-17, 21:23
Hi, I bought two units of Octagon 4K SF4008. Both stuck during flashing (Openvix). Display shows "rootfile system". Tried recovery flash on 3 different usb stick without any results. Any advice?

Did you leave it long enough !.
Mine did the same "rootfile system" was on display for sometime before the flashing finished"
And box rebooted.
At the time i thought mine had stuck.

msjm1313
24-03-17, 21:29
I used HPUSBdisk. Still the same.

abu baniaz
25-03-17, 08:30
I am closing this thread. Otherwise everyone will be posting their issues in the one thread.

If you have an image problem, please start a thread as per this thread
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?33155-ALL-MEMBERS-PLEASE-READ!-New-method-of-posting-in-ViX-Support-Section!

hardware/receiver specific issues in here
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/forumdisplay.php?577-Octagon-SF4008