Quote Originally Posted by fat-tony View Post
Those two channels are part of the SKY lineup. If you use a SKY FTA provider in ABM, then it will pull in all the FTA channels provided on the SKY EPG including C4HD and various news HD channels. You could use that bouquet in place of Freesat. I personally prefer the Freesat channel layout, but I do scan the SKY line-up also and occasionally switch to it. CrossEPG will populate the EPG with C4HD data for sure.

Thanks for the help...can I ask what is ABM (newby)

We only like to watch the HD channels so if there are any others on FTA please let me know.