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    Mutant Vs Octagon

    Hi Twol and all the other members !!

    Wanting to switch to a 4K Deco

    Can you help me choose between Mutant HD51 and Octagon SF4008?

    For years I have enjoyed Dreambox and Vu + Decos ...

    Can you give me the advantages and disadvantages of each model?

    I ask you since I see that you have both devices for some time now.

    Greetings.

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    Main difference is SF4008 supports up to 3 tuners and the SF4008 tuners are S2X.
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    SF4008: 3 tuners (2 physical =3 tuners), S2X (for those that need it), better remote, easy to switch bootmode (PiP/No PiP etc)
    HD51: 2 tuners(1 physical), Kodi 17, better use of the internal EMMC (for both Kodi and true Multiboot capability = multiple image support).
    Both have been good with support, Mut@nt more low key but have delivered 1st, Octagon have been promising more functionality and are extremely visable (like Kodi for Easter!) but still waiting.......

    Very difficult to choose between them. I use Octagon as my lounge receiver (in 1080P mode), HD51 as my test receiver (because of multiboot) (in 2160 mode) but picture wise nothing in it ... both excellent.
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    The only other thing I would add, is that the HD51 is typically bad (compared to say the ET8500) in connecting up an internal HDD, but the SF4008 is (in my view) a pain in the ass ... absolutely doable, but ALL those screws .. give me a break
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    i have to admit, the HDD is a faff due to the sf4008 hdd holder being on the motherboard. but not all that bad
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    Hello again guys !!

    The Mutant HD51 with the standard tuner allows you to watch one channel and record another simultaneously?
    Or maybe I need to have two turners?

    I guess you'll tell me the best is OpenVix !!

    In Multiboot, what is your order in quality for the support?

    I use Ccam, in 4K only Oscam works?

    It is easy compatible ?

    They are any addons like TsPanel to download and install automatically?



    Greetings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilexk View Post
    Hello again guys !!

    The Mutant HD51 with the standard tuner allows you to watch one channel and record another simultaneously?
    Or maybe I need to have two turners?

    I guess you'll tell me the best is OpenVix !!

    In Multiboot, what is your order in quality for the support?

    I use Ccam, in 4K only Oscam works?

    It is easy compatible ?

    They are any addons like TsPanel to download and install automatically?



    Greetings.
    1 physical tuner - gives 2 tuners so can watch/record
    In multiboot?? Not sure of the Q?
    They are both Arm receivers, so You only have Oscam, and it's not like CCcam
    Why do you need tspanel??
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    To balance my SF4008 negative screw comments, the HD51 has no On/Off switch .... it's pull the power lead, which I dislike ..... another reason why the SF4008 is in the lounge, my in-laws with their "finger-troubles" which constantly mess up the box, would have killed the HD51 by now by yanking the lead
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Hello again Twol !!
    How are you?
    I'm not clear about the tuner, with the serial you can see one and record another?

    From the same transponder or the whole satelite?

    I think the Linuxsat Panel seems interesting for downloading tools.
    Do not believe the same?

    Greetings.

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    The dvb-s2 tuner has 2 sat connections for independent satellite feeds
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Quote Originally Posted by twol View Post
    The dvb-s2 tuner has 2 sat connections for independent satellite feeds
    Looking at the photos, it seems that one is an input and another is antenna output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilexk View Post
    Looking at the photos, it seems that one is an input and another is antenna output.
    No, connects 2 sat inputs ... it's right in front of me at this moment
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Quote Originally Posted by twol View Post
    No, connects 2 sat inputs ... it's right in front of me at this moment
    mutant-hd51-4k.jpg

    look at this

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    Yep, just pulled the box out and I am getting confused with the SF4008 downstairs .....sorry.
    The HD51 has room for 2 tuners with a sat feed at the top, rf out at the bottom on each tuner.... so maximum of 2 feeds.
    The SF4008 has room for 2 double tuners, each tuner takes 2 feeds ....although the 2nd tuner only has one useable input...so 3 possible connections.

    Sometimes these 2 receivers are too similar!!!! .... but are different ... I shouldn't be watching the sport whilst trying to respond.
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> GT-Sat unicable LNB to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Gigablue unicable LNB to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................
    Vu+ Uno4KSE, Dreambox dm900
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using unicable ports
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Those wo can look uk channels over 27.5W HD51 is better because bbc skript is working in short mode.
    Not 100% sure but it seems SF4008 can show 27.5W image only using bbc script long mode. If somebody can test it and need details ask me and i can help.

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