It was a problem with not being able to see some of the writing when I was looking at the settings page but found the thing I was looking for in Main menu, setup, system, user interface then position set up. I have found out how to get the channels a bit more organised by using bouquet set ups, that help a lot just need to spot how to delete the channels that are blank or I'm unable to see, like sports channels etc, I'd like to see them but didn't expect them to work as I don't have sky or bit at home.
Thanks for trying to help me yet again though