I know I started this thread and I am sorry I havnt had time to participate with any of the suggestions but I will over the next couple of days, reason it has grabbed my interest is last night I deleted my picon folder on my duo2 and finally got round to uploading snp picons, just as I did this VM had an outage in my area and I lost all Internet, tv and phone, A while later I went to the box and the weather was now showing on the front in all its glory after weeks of a blank screen... I've got up this morning and the Internet is back on but I'm only getting part of the weather and a yellow icon in the top left corner, which I believe indicates a crash, it has never been there before the screen has always been blank.