Heathfield: ABM Terrestrial issues

[abu baniaz]

With regards to the ABM issue, it may be that there is differing SI data on the mast.

Which mast is your aerial pointed at?

Can you delete all channel data, manually scan each frequency, upload lamedb file.

Delete all channel data again, run abm, upload lamedb again.

[obtutus]

With regards to the ABM issue, it may be that there is differing SI data on the mast.

I could be doing something wrong on this matter as I am in a flat with a communal aerial and I don't know if I am on Heathfield or Tunbridge Wells or maybe even somewhere else. I've tried them both and they seem to do the same thing.

[ccs]

I'd get the abm issue resolved first - see abu's last post.

[abu baniaz]

There is a thread with link to finding details from ukfree site. Check both areas and scan just the frequncies listed for each area. We can then use the better one. Sorry not on PC, otherwise would have posted link to thread

[ccs]

This is the link....

https://ukfree.tv/maps/alphabetical

[obtutus]

With regards to the ABM issue, it may be that there is differing SI data on the mast.

Which mast is your aerial pointed at?

Can you delete all channel data, manually scan each frequency, upload lamedb file.

Delete all channel data again, run abm, upload lamedb again.

Ok will do that next abu thx.

[obtutus]

With regards to the ABM issue, it may be that there is differing SI data on the mast.

Which mast is your aerial pointed at?

Can you delete all channel data, manually scan each frequency, upload lamedb file.

Delete all channel data again, run abm, upload lamedb again.

I couldn't work out how to delete channel data so I did a factory reset each time.

I ran abm without any tuning scan, is that correct?

I found that Heathfield and Tunbridge Wells use the same frequencies but have different polarisations so I think it shouldn't matter which I choose in abm? I went with Heathfield for this one.

[abu baniaz]

Deleting channel data:
Option 1.
Press Channel up > Green (extended/satellite) > (You will see a list of satellites/terrestrail/cable) > Highlight the one you want > Menu > Remove selected satellite > Restart

Option 2.
Make a settings backup first, so you can restore it afterwards

Paste following command. (Guide to command in signature if you need it)

init 4 && sleep 10 && rm -f /etc/defaultsat.tar.gz && rm -f /etc/enigma2/lamedb && rm -f /etc/enigma2/*.tv && rm -f /etc/enigma2/*.radio  && rm -f /etc/enigma2/*.del &&  init 3

Polarisatrions:
With Terrestrial, the aerials are orientated differently. So if you select the wrong one, you should not get any channels at all. However, you said you are getting the same from both. Something is not quite right. Or they have combined both.

We have not restricted the polarisations in ABM. Both Tunbridge Wells and Heathfield will lock onto 722000000 irrespective of polarisation.

There is a disparity in the lamedb files created between ABM and manual.

Manual

        <transponder centre_frequency="634000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="3" code_rate_hp="5" code_rate_lp="5" guard_interval="4" transmission_mode="2" hierarchy_information="4" inversion="2" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="642000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="3" code_rate_hp="5" code_rate_lp="5" guard_interval="4" transmission_mode="2" hierarchy_information="4" inversion="2" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="658000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="3" code_rate_hp="5" code_rate_lp="5" guard_interval="4" transmission_mode="2" hierarchy_information="4" inversion="2" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="682000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="3" code_rate_hp="5" code_rate_lp="5" guard_interval="4" transmission_mode="2" hierarchy_information="4" inversion="2" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="698000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="3" code_rate_hp="5" code_rate_lp="5" guard_interval="4" transmission_mode="2" hierarchy_information="4" inversion="2" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="722000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="3" code_rate_hp="5" code_rate_lp="5" guard_interval="4" transmission_mode="2" hierarchy_information="4" inversion="2" />

ABM

        <transponder centre_frequency="522000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="0" code_rate_hp="2" code_rate_lp="0" guard_interval="0" transmission_mode="1" hierarchy_information="0" inversion="0" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="618167000" bandwidth="0" constellation="2" code_rate_hp="2" code_rate_lp="0" guard_interval="0" transmission_mode="1" hierarchy_information="0" inversion="0" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="650000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="2" code_rate_hp="1" code_rate_lp="0" guard_interval="0" transmission_mode="1" hierarchy_information="0" inversion="0" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="666000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="2" code_rate_hp="2" code_rate_lp="0" guard_interval="0" transmission_mode="1" hierarchy_information="0" inversion="0" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="674000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="2" code_rate_hp="1" code_rate_lp="0" guard_interval="0" transmission_mode="1" hierarchy_information="0" inversion="0" />
        <transponder centre_frequency="738000000" bandwidth="0" constellation="2" code_rate_hp="2" code_rate_lp="0" guard_interval="0" transmission_mode="1" hierarchy_information="0" inversion="0" />

ukfree heathfield (horizontal)
634
642
658
682
698
722

ukfree Tunbridge (vertical)
634
642
658
682
698
722

Can you look at a nearby property and see which way/mast the aerial is pointed as well as polarisation please?

[obtutus]

Can you look at a nearby property and see which way/mast the aerial is pointed as well as polarisation please?

Now why didn't i think of that!
All the ones I can see are pointing SSE and are horizontal - so that looks like Heathfield.

I did notice that the frequencies didn't look correct. I've looked in the uk freeview data file in abm/providers directory and it looks correct in there. I must be doing something wrong?

Thanks for the info on deleting channel data as well.

P.S. I wonder if the communal aerial set up is altering the frequencies somehow? Is that even possible? - Nope I've just checked on the TV and the channel numbers seem to be correct.

[abu baniaz]

You are not doing anything wrong. Just needs fine tuning. I'll add some custom transponders for Heathfield later, that should sort the ABM issue.

[abu baniaz]

ABM file for you to test:

1. Please make a settings backup. this is so you can restore your working lamedb file later.
2. Transfer the attached xml file to /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/providers
3. Delete the providers.cache in above location
4. Delete channel data
5. Restart
6. Run ABM for Heathfield
7. Check all services/channels work. report back with findings please.

[obtutus]

ABM file for you to test:

1. Please make a settings backup. this is so you can restore your working lamedb file later.
2. Transfer the attached xml file to /usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/AutoBouquetsMaker/providers
3. Delete the providers.cache in above location
4. Delete channel data
5. Restart
6. Run ABM for Heathfield
7. Check all services/channels work. report back with findings please.

Thanks abu, seems to work except no HD channels, I've tried a couple of times .

[abu baniaz]

OK, progress being made.

1. Please make a settings backup. this is so you can restore your working lamedb file later.
2. Delete channel data
3. Restart
4. Scan Ch 47 only. Ensure that you get HD services. Refer to this thread if required.
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/sh...ns-HD-channels

5. Restart receiver
6. Attach lamedb5 and lamedb file again please.

For reference purposes only

https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Heathfield

[obtutus]

OK, progress being made.

1. Please make a settings backup. this is so you can restore your working lamedb file later.
2. Delete channel data
3. Restart
4. Scan Ch 47 only. Ensure that you get HD services. Refer to this thread if required.
http://www.world-of-satellite.com/sh...ns-HD-channels

5. Restart receiver
6. Attach lamedb5 and lamedb file again please.

For reference purposes only

https://ukfree.tv/transmitters/tv/Heathfield

Done and attached.

[abu baniaz]

Modified ABM file. Same request/instructions as post 33, but best to concentrate on checking HD services