User interface position needs resetting every day

[Andy_Hazza]

I would personally change Automatic Resolution to "Disabled" that is why your SD n HD picture keeps altering with borders etc.


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[Rob van der Does]

Automatic resolution "Disabled" = using the STB's upscaler.
Automatic resolution "Enabled" = using the TV's upscaler.

On all my TV's I've tried to identify any quality difference between the two, but I never managed. So I use 'disabled' to prevent the annoying scaling-change artefacts (TV switching to other modes).

[Andy_Hazza]

Yes and in Birdman's case he will get the annoying scaling-change. Now that he has turned the overscan feature off on his Sony TV, disabling Auto Resolution is his best option.


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[Rob van der Does]

That's my opinion (and setting) as well.

[birdman]

I would personally change Automatic Resolution to "Disabled" that is why your SD n HD picture keeps altering with borders etc.

It doesn't keep altering. It's constant. Just minorly different between HD directly on TV (no overscan) and HD via the mbtwin (slight overscan).

And, if you read #31, you'll see that "Disabled" doesn't actually work well for me at all!

[Joe_90]

@birdman - when you say "HD directly on TV" do you mean when it is using its internal tuner?

If so, it could be that the settings for overscan/just scan on the TV are separate for each input. I know my Sony (and my Samsung) TV has settings that are configurable for each HD input (component and HDMI). The only input (as regards overscan) that I can't configure on my Sony is the composite video - you just have to accept a certain level of overscan.

[Rob van der Does]

It's quite normal; that overscan (and other settings) are per input.
And indeed: AFAIK all TV's only allow 'overscan' settings to be turned off for digital inputs.

PS: How can you be sure that for (internal) TV overscan is zero? Seems difficult to establish to me.

[birdman]

@birdman - when you say "HD directly on TV" do you mean when it is using its internal tuner?

If so, it could be that the settings for overscan/just scan on the TV are separate for each input.

They can't be set for any input - only for direct TV viewing (where SD and HD channels allow separate settings).

[birdman]

They can't be set for any input - only for direct TV viewing (where SD and HD channels allow separate settings).

WAIT!!

It turns out that the blue HOME button is inactive for external inputs.
BUT I've now discovered I can get to the same menus via a different route (so why the blue HOME button is disabled is a mystery...). The relevant setting there was "Auto", so I've changed it to "Full pixel" and it might have made a difference. More testing will be done when I'm not actually watching things....

[birdman]

The relevant setting there was "Auto", so I've changed it to "Full pixel" and it might have made a difference. More testing will be done when I'm not actually watching things....

Yes - it has made a difference! I can now change my Position Setup in the user interface settings to be 0/720/0/576 (rather then the previous 12/696/10/557) and still see the menus on-screen.

[Rob van der Does]

Good: real HD at last for you as well

[Joe_90]

@birdman - you got there in the end

[Joe_90]

It's quite normal; that overscan (and other settings) are per input.
And indeed: AFAIK all TV's only allow 'overscan' settings to be turned off for digital inputs.

PS: How can you be sure that for (internal) TV overscan is zero? Seems difficult to establish to me.

If you can receive one of those pesky channels with the visible VBI lines via your internal cable or satellite tuner (Horror +1 / Forces TV are ones that spring to mind) and the lines are visible, then the TV is not overscanning in internal tuner mode. My Sony TV has an internal sat tuner and on TV mode I am not able to set the screen area to full pixel. There is a slight overscan default and you can set higher overscan (-1 and -2). On the default overscan in TV mode it just pushes the VBI lines off the top and the picture looks ok on SD and HD channels. I really can't say the quality difference between the slight overscan on HD through the internal tuner and that on the HDMI input (with exact pixel setting) from the STB is noticeable.

[Rob van der Does]

If you can receive one of those pesky channels with the visible VBI lines via your internal cable or satellite tuner (Horror +1 / Forces TV are ones that spring to mind) and the lines are visible, then the TV is not overscanning in internal tuner mode.

True .

[Rob van der Does]

BTW: you did notice that in the last ViX-build there is an option to hide that line (per service)?