Satellite selection after blindscanning

[ArloGuthrie]

For quite a long time. Possibly forever. No only with my OsMio.

Every time I run multiple blindscans and manual scans at the very least.
The Satellite selection line where you use the RCU L/R 4-way buttons.
The selection will not allow using the right key anymore. It simply freezes.
The left button always works. But of course you must cycle through the entire satellite list to get to the one that a single press of the right button would suffice.
Of course if you error and cycle one too far, you must left-button cycle the entire list again.

A deep standby and boot or reboot clears the bug for a few scans. Then happens again.
I've found an init 4, init 3 in putty does not help. A reboot must be done.

The anomaly has been present in different images besides ViX for a long time.
Can it be addressed and possibly fixed?

[Huevos]

Are you using your own satellites.xml file?

[ArloGuthrie]

Out of the box, the way it is.
Out of interest what would be scenarios if one were used?
Because 6.2, 6.3, etc. did it also. But not only ViX. TNAP is the only image that hasn't.

[Huevos]

Tell me which entry it is jamming on.

[ArloGuthrie]

Firstly. I'm recovering after lightning damage to my lnbf. And my dish mover was destroyed. Around a year ago. So I've been stuck on one satellite.
All of that is fixed.
The situation can be described as. Many transponder changes here. When I get a tp on a satellite. Peak for signal. Then blindscan it for new tp's.
Only scan unknown transponders: No
Disable sync with known transponders: Yes
Get a few that may need another signal peak by steering the dish and saving the position. Diseqc 1.2 mover.
Go back to rescan.Finish the process.
Then decide to scroll to the next satellite using the right rcu 4-way key.
I cannot sequence right. Only using the left button sequences the list.

And as you can do in Manual scan. Navigate to the satellite selection line. Press the center OK button. And the satellite list appears in a separate screen.
In blindscan, doing the same initiates the scan.

But. A Deep Standby and boot clears the inability to use the right button. For maybe a few scans. And again. It (button) won't let you cycle the list. Only the left button works.
Perhaps in the driver itself? It happens in different images. Perhaps I could help you help me figure it out.

Oh. FYI. I do have a Zgemma H7 I use in client mode only. Because blindscan never really did work. Can't compare apples to apples.

[ArloGuthrie]

Idle time for thought?
A few other things. A lot. I mean a LOT of hang-up's, freezes, Spinny ViX logo in the upper left of the screen. Total freeze if landing on a channel with no signal for a period.
While I steer my dish trying to get a signal.
Also. Unpredictable but when the TV shuts down. Or I switch HDMI inputs to my streaming box. When I switch back to the Edision. Signal but no video or audio.
Sometimes just cycling to another channel restores a/v. Usually the receiver just becomes unresponsive. No FTP access, no webif. So pulling the plug is necessary.
Then. It seems. Unless the receiver is put in deep standby afterwards and powered up again. It will hang up in a few minutes.

I hear that a crashlog is saved. May I get the actual names of the logs that may assist diagnosing?
6.6 does seem to hang/crash much more than previous versions.

[twol]

Idle time for thought?
A few other things. A lot. I mean a LOT of hang-up's, freezes, Spinny ViX logo in the upper left of the screen. Total freeze if landing on a channel with no signal for a period.
While I steer my dish trying to get a signal.
Also. Unpredictable but when the TV shuts down. Or I switch HDMI inputs to my streaming box. When I switch back to the Edision. Signal but no video or audio.
Sometimes just cycling to another channel restores a/v. Usually the receiver just becomes unresponsive. No FTP access, no webif. So pulling the plug is necessary.
Then. It seems. Unless the receiver is put in deep standby afterwards and powered up again. It will hang up in a few minutes.

I hear that a crashlog is saved. May I get the actual names of the logs that may assist diagnosing?
6.6 does seem to hang/crash much more than previous versions.

I have had an Edision Mio4kplus a long time and its a nice receiver BUT it likes a good signal to lock compared to my other boxes, So as my 28.2E signal can be variable and vary between none and reasonable, where some boxes will recover more easily, if the signal is weakish the Mio takes its time often springing back to life while I am doing something else.
This is regardless of image.

[ArloGuthrie]

The satellite selection scrolling thing aside. Very good description and makes some sense now.
So. Inside if I get a satellite with weak signal. BTW. Just installed an OMT with two Norsat lnb's.
And go out to the dish. Up a step ladder to tweak the feed for best signal. My body as low as possible to reduce blocking the signal. I lose and get signal back. Get it best as possible.
Down the ladder, drag it out of the way. And see how much better the signal is.
A few times I've lost signal totally. And a little confused because I did not move the feed that much. Phone app showing no signal. Go back inside and see Mr. Spinny ViX logo on the screen.
Receiver is basically frozen. Unplug it and reboot. Signal and function returns. Do it again.
Good comparison?

Also. Out of curiosity. I placed my trimmed satellites.xml in place of the factory one.
No less, no better that it was. After a few blindscans in a row. The right button stops letting me cycle satellites.
A manual scan OK button press that has a new page of selectable satellites implemented in blindscan would be cool.
Because pressing the OK button currently initiates the scan in blindscan.

[twol]

The satellite selection scrolling thing aside. Very good description and makes some sense now.
So. Inside if I get a satellite with weak signal. BTW. Just installed an OMT with two Norsat lnb's.
And go out to the dish. Up a step ladder to tweak the feed for best signal. My body as low as possible to reduce blocking the signal. I lose and get signal back. Get it best as possible.
Down the ladder, drag it out of the way. And see how much better the signal is.
A few times I've lost signal totally. And a little confused because I did not move the feed that much. Phone app showing no signal. Go back inside and see Mr. Spinny ViX logo on the screen.
Receiver is basically frozen. Unplug it and reboot. Signal and function returns. Do it again.
Good comparison?

Also. Out of curiosity. I placed my trimmed satellites.xml in place of the factory one.
No less, no better that it was. After a few blindscans in a row. The right button stops letting me cycle satellites.
A manual scan OK button press that has a new page of selectable satellites implemented in blindscan would be cool.
Because pressing the OK button currently initiates the scan in blindscan.

I usually stick either an ipad or laptop within viewable or at least hearing range ( the latter depends on the app used) and then just finger tap the dish and check again.
Physically moving a dish on my sats and reception coverage is usually too big a jump

[Huevos]

Also. Out of curiosity. I placed my trimmed satellites.xml in place of the factory one.
No less, no better that it was. After a few blindscans in a row. The right button stops letting me cycle satellites.
A manual scan OK button press that has a new page of selectable satellites implemented in blindscan would be cool.
Because pressing the OK button currently initiates the scan in blindscan.

https://github.com/oe-alliance/oe-al...303e1686709d83

With that change it should show the sat list on Ok press.
Not cycling right usually means there is a problem with satellites.xml.

If you load the change onto your box and restart, you should be able to open the sat list with "ok" key when it gets stuck and we will be able to see the entry it is stuck on.

[el bandido]

https://github.com/oe-alliance/oe-al...303e1686709d83

With that change it should show the sat list on Ok press.
Not cycling right usually means there is a problem with satellites.xml.

If you load the change onto your box and restart, you should be able to open the sat list with "ok" key when it gets stuck and we will be able to see the entry it is stuck on.

He's probably restoring the same defect when loading images due to the satellites.xml being in /etc/enigma2? It might be a good idea to post the modified satellites.xml so it can be checked for defects.

Or even the likes of 105W???. With the radio channels that take a very long time to scan in. Really long.
Setting a smaller scan range gives faster results. But you need to do it multiple times. And a bug in E2 software bogs down or even stops future scans to a halt. Requiring a reboot.
So a valid procedure would be to take the blindscan .xml results in ./tmp and paste them into the relative satellite in the ./tuxbox .xml.
Whether keeping the software or migrating to a new or different E2 version. Keeping the appended .xml in safe storage and transferring it to the new version.
There is no complete starting over. Much like you can paste Nims info. in the settings file. So you don't have to configure satellites one-by-one.

On the same subject of the satellites.xml. In stock form there are just tons of every single TV/Raadio satellite in orbit. And when scrolling through the list when searching for a sat. to configure.
Most. You will never ever be able to see. In my case 40.5W-127W.
Get rid of all of the others. The software doesn't care. And the bug where if you use the left and right 4-way button to scroll the list too many times still persists. Eventually it freezes. Or refuses to let you go backwards if you bypass your sat. of interest.
Not only does shortening the satellite list make sense. It makes perfect 100% sense. And then, you look at Tek's "blindscan" files.

For the blindscan plugin, there has always been a shortcut for the Edision 4k receivers. Press the pvr button to see the list of possible satellites to scan as shown below. Other receiver models usually have a shortcut key to open the satellites list. This shortcut works in other menus.

This listing of the satellites feature is buggy. Example: If you are currently on a c band satellite and highlight a ku satellite, then the parameters will be for c band instead of ku band. I suspect the OK button mod would do the same.

blindscan-list-pvr.jpg

[Huevos]

He's probably restoring the same defect when loading images due to the satellites.xml being in /etc/enigma2? It might be a good idea to post the modified satellites.xml so it can be checked for defects.

I wonder what his good reason for needing a modified satellites.xml.

For the blindscan plugin, there has always been a shortcut for the Edision 4k receivers. Press the pvr button to see the list of possible satellites to scan as shown below. Other receiver models usually have a shortcut key to open the satellites list. This shortcut works in other menus.

That has been like that for years on all boxes but was never an obvious feature.

This listing of the satellites feature is buggy. Example: If you are currently on a c band satellite and highlight a ku satellite, then the parameters will be for c band instead of ku band. I suspect the OK button mod would do the same.

Do you mean if you press left/right the parameters do update correctly, but not if you use the list feature?

[el bandido]

Do you mean if you press left/right the parameters do update correctly, but not if you use the list feature?

Correct. Pressing left or right allows the parameters to properly update. But when you use the list and move to a ku satellite from a c band satellite, the blindscan menu shows c band parameters instead of ku band parameters. Move one direction either way (Left or Right), then return to the desired satellite will set the correct parameters.

[Huevos]

Do you mean if you press left/right the parameters do update correctly, but not if you use the list feature?

https://github.com/oe-alliance/oe-al...cf348024d8bb57 should fix that behaviour.

[el bandido]

Ihttps://github.com/oe-alliance/oe-al...cf348024d8bb57 should fix that behaviour.

The recent fixes to the blindscan plugin are an improvement. Thanks!

I wonder what his good reason for needing a modified satellites.xml.

The idea is to capture and add the transponders found in blindscan and add them to the satellites.xml. He would like a way for this to be done automatically after each blindscan for whatever reason.


The spinner, receiver freezing and other problems may be a switching issue. There are two C band lnb and one Ku band lnbf in the dish system. A fairly complex switching system is used to control these 3 lnbs. Terminators instead of dust cover caps are installed on All unused ports. Picture of switch system is shown below.

Cabinet.jpg