In at the Deep End with Gigablue UHD 4K

**dsayers** · 25-06-20, 19:52

Sorry duplicate post due to network issues

**ccs** · 25-06-20, 20:00

.... an easier way would be to have radio and tv automatically put in the same bouquets list, but that's a bit too controversial.

**CRMS** · 26-06-20, 12:41

>but that's a bit too controversial.

Interesting but why?? Or is it just too logical and sensible??

I have managed to set timers and autotimers using the radio bouquet but it is not as easy as the TV EPG. Don't think Mrs S will be over the moon!!!

I see that the Freesat ABM setup video shows TV channels and radio being scanned. So it is surprising that the EPG doesn't show the radio channels - just like a Humax and Arris Freesat box.
I'm sure that the authors of the ABM or CrossEPG or whatever could implement very simply. I think it is a bit complicated and a palaver for me.
Or even have an ABM for Freesat and Freesat + Radio??
I do use Filezilla for a website. So I assume I can connect the box to my PC via wifi and filezilla. But all a little risky.

Anyway, OpenVix etc wars continue.

I managed to, I think, use the button menu to programme a long press on EPG to do an EPG refresh. This morning, I got a info box saying starting refresh, then after 5 seconds countdown a info box saying complete. And an extra day appeared in the EPG. My auto time is in the evening.
Does this sound correct??
It would be good to have the box auto refresh EPG when first connected?? Eg stop in boat. Realign sat dish to get good signal, then EPG auto refreshes. Humax and Arris just do it!!

Also confirmed that box will wake up from deep standby to record, which is excellent. But quite happy for the normal standby screen with time to be displayed on small screen rather than TV pic. Looked in menu and couldn't see anything. Any ideas??
I do like that a timer can be programmed for deep standby after a programme has finished recording in the middle of the night.

Any clock plugins?? Nice to have a Rolex or even the Swiss Mondaine railway station clock where the second hand stops at "12" and all the trains are supposed to leave at the same time!!

It also seemed that with just Tuner A connected, I was getting "Tune error". Both cables and all seems to be OK. Is this normal??

Thanks for all your help.

**abu baniaz** · 26-06-20, 15:05

>It also seemed that with just Tuner A connected, I was getting "Tune error". Both cables and all seems to be OK. Is this normal??

If you set tuner B to 28.2 and there wasn't a cable connected, then it is normal for the error. It has been told there is a signal wire hooked up to it, tried to use it and it encountered an error.

>It would be good to have the box auto refresh EPG when first connected?? Eg stop in boat. Realign sat dish to get good signal, then EPG auto refreshes. Humax and Arris just do it!!
Freesat EPG is absorbed while you are on a freesat service. Most services are snails pace, I can't remember which transponder has the Freesat EPG fast service. I'd imagine the one that has Freesat info. Set your startup service to a service on that transponder or the IEPG channel for Sky on 11778 vertical 27500. It will start on a service that absorbs EPG, so leave it for two minutes before changing channel

However, EPG is held in RAM and saved on shut down. Unless you are not shutting down properly, you should always have EPG when you start up. Only exception is if there is some corrupt data in which case all the EPG is dumped at startup.

>I managed to, I think, use the button menu to programme a long press on EPG to do an EPG refresh. This morning, I got a info box saying starting refresh, then after 5 seconds countdown a info box saying complete

I am presuming you are using epg refresh plugin. The plugin is just a channel zapper and you have to set a service for it to zap/activate/view. Something is right. How long did you set the zap/activation//viewing? 5 seconds is not long enough. The blue button has and epg-refresh now too.

In any case, why are you using EPG refresh and CrossEPG?

**CRMS** · 26-06-20, 16:40

Thanks.

>In any case, why are you using EPG refresh and CrossEPG?

I have no idea.

>How long did you set the zap/activation//viewing? 5 seconds is not long enough. The blue button has and epg-refresh now too.

Haven't changed anything. Not sure what screen the blue button is operated on. On my Guide screen, blue is to set an auto timer.

There is no glossary to explain what these words mean. In plain simple english "EPG refresh" to me means just that - refresh the EPG. And having downloaded/installed etc CrossEPG I assume from EPG refresh that it refreshes CrossEPG??

Phew. Too hot for this!!

**abu baniaz** · 26-06-20, 16:59

EPG = What Sky calls synopsis.

CrossEPG Downlaoder in one plugin. You can set it to acquire EPG/synopsis automatcailly.
EPG refresh is another plugin. If you have not set it up correctly, it won't do anything for you. You would not see EPG refresh now until you installed the plugin You can also set it to zap/select/activate a service so EPG /synopsis is absorbed automatically.

Which do you wish to use? Pick one. Both will have options to add to blue button so you can invoke/activate/run/execute/do/process them immediately.

CrossEPG Downloader guide here:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/s...ader-28-2-only

EPG Refresh guide here:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/s...off-the-stream

**adm** · 26-06-20, 18:31

Originally Posted by CRMS

>but that's a bit too controversial.

I have managed to set timers and autotimers using the radio bouquet but it is not as easy as the TV EPG. Don't think Mrs S will be over the moon!!!

What are you doing to make it different? They look the same to me? While there are more than one way to set timers/autotimers, in the grid EPG view for TV or Radio I just hihghlight a programme and press blue to set an autotimer. Are you using a different skin to the default which may give you different button options? If requiring a lot fewer options for setting timers/autotimers in the grid EPG highlighting a programme and just pressing record offers the quick way to set the timers using whatever default(s) you may have set up. Defaults can be found
menu -> timers -> autotimers -> menu (edit new timer defaults)

It would be good to have the box auto refresh EPG when first connected?? Eg stop in boat. Realign sat dish to get good signal, then EPG auto refreshes. Humax and Arris just do it!!

If you are getting your EPG over the air then the box works exactly the same way as the Humax and Atris. If I go to menu -> setup -> epg and delete the EPG my box will start immediately refetching the EPG from over the air in the background. If programme times change I also see these changes. It may take 5 to 15 minutes - which is the same amount of time a Humax and other boxes will take. This is for both Freesat and Freeview - Sky FTA may require you to zap to the IEPG channel to fill any blanks. On closedown the EPG is stored to disk or non-volitile memory to be available immediately on next switch on.

**abu baniaz** · 26-06-20, 18:57

He wants to have radio and TV services in the same bouquets so selecting them is easier.

The GigaBlue doesn't have separate TV/Radio buttons, it is not a smooth transition alternating between the two.

**CRMS** · 27-06-20, 12:24

>What are you doing to make it different?
Nothing. Default skin. And setting timers and autotimers is just fine.

>over the air then the box works exactly the same way as the Humax and Atris. If I go to menu -> setup -> epg and delete the EPG
Except that is not exactly the same way. No need to go to a menu in Humax and Arris. And yes, Humax used to take a few mins to update EPG from satellite. But anyway blue button extensions works OK.

>The GigaBlue doesn't have separate TV/Radio buttons...
Yes. Just a Rad/TV button. Which I would have thought when in Grid EPG would switch between TV and Radio Grid??

So the grid TV EPG I get is this:

OpenVixEPGR06.jpg

If I then use Rad/TV button I get this:

OpenVixEPGR04.jpg

Then amazingly the EPG for radio came up when I had a radio channel playing. I Not sure how I got there:

OpenVixEPGR01.jpg

Just want I want. And if I need to use Rad/TV to switch EPGs, that is fine.

I also get this:

OpenVixEPGR05.jpg

The Bluetooth audio is interesting as there can be a conflict between HDMI and BT output. Connecting a BT device seems to mute TV HDMI audio. But it is easy to loose all sound if TV is switched on when connecting the BT device.

Does the SPDIF output have the same conflict with BT??

Many thanks.

**abu baniaz** · 27-06-20, 12:45

You don't need to go in any menu for Freesat EPG. Merely being on a Freesat channel absorbs the EPG. Provided you have not changed default EPG settings.

You are mixing up EPG and Channel lists. They are two different things. Your usage of E2 will be a lot easier if you accept they are two different things.

**abu baniaz** · 14-07-20, 11:57

As of the AutoBouquetsMaker in 5.3 037, ABM will create TV bouquets with the radio services for Freesat and Freeview.

**CRMS** · 14-07-20, 12:09

That sounds great. So just download OV 5.3 037 and flash the box in accordance with the guide??

**ccs** · 14-07-20, 13:11

Originally Posted by abu baniaz

As of the AutoBouquetsMaker in 5.3 037, ABM will create TV bouquets with the radio services for Freesat and Freeview.

Sorry, probably me being dense again, is this going to work when I use frequency finder to create a provider file?
The radio channels are in "last scanned" but always have been.
Can't see them anywhere else.

Code:

ABM-Manager][save] Bouquets to hide: {'terrestrial_finder': [201, 670]}
[ABM-Manager][save] TV bouquets to keep: ['userbouquet.favourites.tv', 'userbouquet.LastScanned.tv']
[ABM-Manager][save] Radio bouquets to keep: ['userbouquet.favourites.radio']
[ABM-Manager][save] Add provider prefix to bouqets: False
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing lamedb...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Wrote 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing lamedb V5...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Wrote 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom video LCN file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom radio LCN file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-Tools][customMix] No CustomMix file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing terrestrial_finder bouquet...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-Tools][favourites] No favorite.xml file
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing Last Scanned bouquet...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing bouquets index...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-Manager][save] write bouquets, Done
[ABM-UpdateProviders][__init__] Starting...
[ABM-UpdateProviders][checkRemoteVersion] Local version: 3.1
[ABM-UpdateProviders][checkRemoteVersion] Remote version: 3.1
[ABM-UpdateProviders][fetchProviders] Fetching provider file for  East Yorks & Lincs terrestrial
[ABM-UpdateProviders][getResource] Failed to retrieve file for East Yorks & Lincs terrestrial. Error: 404 Not Found
[ABM-Scheduler][doneConfiguring] Schedule Disabled at Tue 14 Jul 2020 12:38:14 BST
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing bouquets index...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-config] level:  expert
[ABM-config] providers:  terrestrial_finder:custom:9:
[ABM-config] keepbouquets: All
[ABM-config] hidesections:  |terrestrial_finder:201|terrestrial_finder:670
[ABM-config] add provider prefix:  False
[ABM-config] show in extensions menu:  False
[ABM-config] placement:  top
[ABM-config] skip services on non-configured satellites:  True
[ABM-config] show non-indexed:  False
[ABM-config] FTA_only:  terrestrial_finder
[ABM-config] schedule:  False
[ABM-Manager][load] Loading settings...
[ABM-BouquetsReader] Reading lamedb...
[ABM-BouquetsReader] lamedb ver 4
[ABM-BouquetsReader] Read 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-Manager][load] Settings loaded
[ABM-main][doTune] searching for tuner for East Yorks & Lincs terrestrial
[ABM-main][doTune] tuner selection algorithm 'OpenPLi Hot Switch compatible'
[ABM-main][doTune] Tuner B selected
[ABM-main][doTune] Fixed dish. Will wait up to 10 seconds for tuner lock.
[ABM-main][checkTunerLock] TUNING
[ABM-main][checkTunerLock] TUNING
[ABM-main][checkTunerLock] ACQUIRING TSID/ONID
[ABM-Manager][read] Reading terrestrial_finder (custom)...
[ABM-Tools][customtransponder] Transponder provider name terrestrial_finder
[ABM-Tools][customtransponder] 3 custom transponders found for that region.
[ABM-DvbScanner] Adapter 0
[ABM-DvbScanner] Demuxer 1
[ABM-DvbScanner] Frontend 1
[ABM-DvbScanner] DVBType dvbt
[ABM-DvbScanner] NIT pid: 0x10
[ABM-DvbScanner] NIT current table id: 0x40
[ABM-DvbScanner] NIT other table id: 0x0
[ABM-DvbScanner] Ignore visible service flag: 0
[ABM-DvbScanner] SDT pid: 0x11
[ABM-DvbScanner] SDT current table id: 0x42
[ABM-DvbScanner] SDT other table id: 0x46
[ABM-DvbScanner] Reading transponders...
[ABM-DvbScanner] Scan complete, netid:  None
[ABM-DvbScanner] Added/Updated 8 transponders with network_id = 0x3027
[ABM-DvbScanner] Reading services (LCN)...
[ABM-DvbScanner] Read 164 services
[ABM-DvbScanner] 164 valid services
[ABM-Manager][read] terrestrial_finder, Done
[ABM-Manager][save] Saving...
[ABM-Manager][save] Bouquets to hide: {'terrestrial_finder': [201, 670]}
[ABM-Manager][save] TV bouquets to keep: ['userbouquet.favourites.tv', 'userbouquet.LastScanned.tv']
[ABM-Manager][save] Radio bouquets to keep: ['userbouquet.favourites.radio']
[ABM-Manager][save] Add provider prefix to bouqets: False
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing lamedb...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Wrote 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing lamedb V5...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Wrote 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom video LCN file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom radio LCN file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-Tools][customMix] No CustomMix file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing terrestrial_finder bouquet...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-Tools][favourites] No favorite.xml file
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing Last Scanned bouquet...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing bouquets index...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-Manager][save] write bouquets, Done
[ABM-Scheduler][doneConfiguring] Schedule Disabled at Tue 14 Jul 2020 12:44:43 BST
[ABM-Scheduler][doneConfiguring] Schedule Disabled at Tue 14 Jul 2020 12:54:02 BST
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing bouquets index...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-config] level:  expert
[ABM-config] providers:  terrestrial_finder:custom:9:
[ABM-config] keepbouquets: All
[ABM-config] hidesections:  |terrestrial_finder:201|terrestrial_finder:670
[ABM-config] add provider prefix:  False
[ABM-config] show in extensions menu:  False
[ABM-config] placement:  top
[ABM-config] skip services on non-configured satellites:  True
[ABM-config] show non-indexed:  False
[ABM-config] FTA_only:  terrestrial_finder
[ABM-config] schedule:  False
[ABM-Manager][load] Loading settings...
[ABM-BouquetsReader] Reading lamedb...
[ABM-BouquetsReader] lamedb ver 4
[ABM-BouquetsReader] Read 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-Manager][load] Settings loaded
[ABM-main][doTune] searching for tuner for East Yorks & Lincs terrestrial
[ABM-main][doTune] tuner selection algorithm 'OpenPLi Hot Switch compatible'
[ABM-main][doTune] Tuner B selected
[ABM-main][doTune] Fixed dish. Will wait up to 10 seconds for tuner lock.
[ABM-main][checkTunerLock] TUNING
[ABM-main][checkTunerLock] TUNING
[ABM-main][checkTunerLock] TUNING
[ABM-main][checkTunerLock] ACQUIRING TSID/ONID
[ABM-Manager][read] Reading terrestrial_finder (custom)...
[ABM-Tools][customtransponder] Transponder provider name terrestrial_finder
[ABM-Tools][customtransponder] 2 custom transponders found for that region.
[ABM-DvbScanner] Adapter 0
[ABM-DvbScanner] Demuxer 1
[ABM-DvbScanner] Frontend 1
[ABM-DvbScanner] DVBType dvbt
[ABM-DvbScanner] NIT pid: 0x10
[ABM-DvbScanner] NIT current table id: 0x40
[ABM-DvbScanner] NIT other table id: 0x0
[ABM-DvbScanner] Ignore visible service flag: 0
[ABM-DvbScanner] SDT pid: 0x11
[ABM-DvbScanner] SDT current table id: 0x42
[ABM-DvbScanner] SDT other table id: 0x46
[ABM-DvbScanner] Reading transponders...
[ABM-DvbScanner] Scan complete, netid:  None
[ABM-DvbScanner] Added/Updated 8 transponders with network_id = 0x3027
[ABM-DvbScanner] Reading services (LCN)...
[ABM-DvbScanner] Read 164 services
[ABM-DvbScanner] 164 valid services
[ABM-Manager][read] terrestrial_finder, Done
[ABM-Manager][save] Saving...
[ABM-Manager][save] Bouquets to hide: {'terrestrial_finder': [201, 670]}
[ABM-Manager][save] TV bouquets to keep: ['userbouquet.favourites.tv', 'userbouquet.LastScanned.tv']
[ABM-Manager][save] Radio bouquets to keep: ['userbouquet.favourites.radio']
[ABM-Manager][save] Add provider prefix to bouqets: False
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing lamedb...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Wrote 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing lamedb V5...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Wrote 9 transponders and 195 services
[ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom video LCN file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-Tools][customLCN] No custom radio LCN file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-Tools][customMix] No CustomMix file for terrestrial_finder.
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing terrestrial_finder bouquet...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-Tools][favourites] No favorite.xml file
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing Last Scanned bouquet...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Writing bouquets index...
[ABM-BouquetsWriter] Done
[ABM-Manager][save] write bouquets, Done
[ABM-Scheduler][doneConfiguring] Schedule Disabled at Tue 14 Jul 2020 12:55:44 BST
[ABM-Scheduler][doneConfiguring] Schedule Disabled at Tue 14 Jul 2020 12:55:59 BST

Code:

<provider>
	<name>East Yorks &amp; Lincs terrestrial</name>
	<streamtype>dvbt</streamtype>
	<protocol>lcn</protocol>
	<dvbtconfigs>
		<configuration key="custom" frequency="506000000" system="0">East Yorks &amp; Lincs terrestrial</configuration>
	</dvbtconfigs>

	<customtransponders>
		<!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="482000000" transport_stream_id="104f" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="22" -->
		<!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="490000000" transport_stream_id="5040" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="23" -->
		<!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="506000000" transport_stream_id="201b" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="25" -->
		<!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="514000000" transport_stream_id="6040" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="26" -->
		<customtransponder key="custom" frequency="530000000" transport_stream_id="4089" system="1"/><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="28" -->
		<!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="545833000" transport_stream_id="3006" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="30" -->
		<!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="562000000" transport_stream_id="8001" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="32" -->
		<customtransponder key="custom" frequency="746000000" transport_stream_id="a000" system="1"/><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="55" -->
	</customtransponders>

	<sections>
		<section number="1">Entertainment</section>
		<section number="100">High Definition</section>
		<section number="201">Children</section>
		<section number="230">News</section>
		<section number="260">BBC Interactive</section>
		<section number="670">Adult</section>
	</sections>

	<swapchannels>
		<channel number="1" with="101"/>	<!-- BBC One HD -->
		<channel number="2" with="102"/>	<!-- BBC TWO HD -->
		<channel number="3" with="103"/>	<!-- ITV HD -->
		<channel number="4" with="104"/>	<!-- Channel 4 HD -->
		<channel number="5" with="105"/>	<!-- Channel 5 HD -->
		<channel number="9" with="106"/>	<!-- BBC FOUR HD -->
		<channel number="13" with="109"/>	<!-- Channel 4+1 HD -->
		<channel number="47" with="110"/>	<!-- 4seven HD -->
		<channel number="201" with="204"/>	<!-- CBBC HD -->
		<channel number="202" with="205"/>	<!-- CBeebies HD -->
		<channel number="231" with="107"/>	<!-- BBC NEWS HD -->
	</swapchannels>

	<servicehacks>
	<![CDATA[

tsidonidlist= [
	"104f:233a",
	"5040:233a",
	"201b:233a",
	"6040:233a",
	"4089:233a",
	"3006:233a",
	"8001:233a",
	"a000:233a",
]

tsidonidkey = "%x:%x" % (service["transport_stream_id"], service["original_network_id"])
if tsidonidkey not in tsidonidlist:
	skip = True

	]]>
	</servicehacks>
</provider>

**abu baniaz** · 14-07-20, 13:37

We have not made any code changes to frequency finder yet. For a start, the radio section is missing in the xml file. Ideally we should add details to official file, I see you uploaded your file a while back. Are details in above post latest?

**ccs** · 14-07-20, 13:43

Originally Posted by abu baniaz

Are details in above post latest?

Yes, updated today in case it made a difference.

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