Zgemma H7S with OpenVIX - Inefficient usage of tuners.

[BrianTheTechieSnail]

Are we on the same page?
I am working on the deduction/conclusion that you have two satellite tuners with only one signal wire attached to the dish and receiver. I went by "both satelllite tuners" in post 1, and "As an aside, I actually only have one satellite tuner connected to the dish at present" in post 3.

If I have deduced the wrong thing, my apologies. Please clarify what you have to avoid confusion.

Please post a screenshot of your devices page.

I have that page, though not 100% identical, but none of the available configuration options mention loop or loopthrough.

[BrianTheTechieSnail]

Further question following on from that.

When do the autotimers get converted to a series of single event timers?

If it doesn't already, can I make that happen quite frequently so that I can catch and record programs from channels that only seem to have Now and Next EPG on this box (like CNBC HD)?

I tried CrossEPG. It was an epic disaster.
Took me loads of fiddling about to get the box working again.

WTF doesn't restoring a ViX backup remove plug-ins that weren't installed when the backup was made??
It installs ones that were installed, just doesn't remove ones that were not installed.

Something is getting EPGs for most channels so OpenVIX clearly has something in it by default that does that function, but what is it?

[adm]

Further question following on from that.

When do the autotimers get converted to a series of single event timers?

If the program is in the EPG at the time that you create the autotimer then the timers get created minutes afterwards.
Otherwise, Menu -> Autotimer > Menu (again) -> (6) Setup from the pop up menu that appears. Each selected option has a short discription that may help understanding the options.

[abu baniaz]

I tried CrossEPG. It was an epic disaster.
Took me loads of fiddling about to get the box working again.

WTF doesn't restoring a ViX backup remove plug-ins that weren't installed when the backup was made??
It installs ones that were installed, just doesn't remove ones that were not installed.

Something is getting EPGs for most channels so OpenVIX clearly has something in it by default that does that function, but what is it?

There are two backup restores, one is a settings restore, one is a plugin restore.

A settings restore can be applied even though you do not have the plugin installed. All it does is copy the settings file among other files.

A plugin restore is a plugin re-installation based on a list of what is saved in the backup file of what you installed. Some plugins are pre-installed in the image so you don't get the option.

There are several EPG readers. Freesat and now/next are enabled by default.

EDIT:
Applying a setting backup does not uninstall plugins. Best to flash image again and apply the backup.

[abu baniaz]

I have that page, though not 100% identical, but none of the available configuration options mention loop or loopthrough.

There are two routes from here, I can guess what you are seeing and draw the wrong conclusion. Or you can post what you actually see. I sense the frustration, lets get through this by providing as much information as possible so others can hep you.

Link to getting screenshots in my signature if you need it

[birdman]

When do the autotimers get converted to a series of single event timers?

Pedantically - never.
AutoTimers always stay as AutoTimers (until you delete them).
From time to (configurable) time the AutoTimer process runs and for each AutoTimer it finds at of the entries in the EPG that match it. If you don't currently have a Timer set for that (and Disabled Timers are still set Timers in this respect) then it will add a Timer (which will run clash checks).
The AutoTimer is unchanged by this action (unless you have one set with a "number of times to record" countdown option).

...can I make that happen quite frequently...

Yes. Hence the (configurable) above.
It's somewhere in the menus.

In the AutoTimer list press Menu, then "6 Setup" and there are two poll options near the top.

[BrianTheTechieSnail]

There are two routes from here, I can guess what you are seeing and draw the wrong conclusion. Or you can post what you actually see. I sense the frustration, lets get through this by providing as much information as possible so others can hep you.

Link to getting screenshots in my signature if you need it

Good grief.

I'm really longing to see HTF you think you're going to tell if that option is present from one screenshot showing, obviously, some other option.

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[abu baniaz]

Pressing right/left does not change it to anything else other than disabled?

[BrianTheTechieSnail]

Pressing right/left does not change it to anything else other than disabled?

Yes but, like I already said, none of them mention loop or loopthrough.

[Andy_Hazza]

Yes but, like I already said, none of them mention loop or loopthrough.

Some receivers don’t have the loopthrough option. My SF8008 also doesn’t have that option.


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[BrianTheTechieSnail]

Some receivers don’t have the loopthrough option. My SF8008 also doesn’t have that option.


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On reflection my guess is it depends on the tuner module.

abu baniaz has NIM 45308 FBC tuners which support internal loopthrough.

I have dual Si2169D tuners and I guess they don't support internal loopthrough.

[abu baniaz]

Can you check if this file is present on your receiver please?

/proc/stb/frontend/1/rf_switch

[BrianTheTechieSnail]

Can you check if this file is present on your receiver please?

/proc/stb/frontend/1/rf_switch

Not much there at all.

login as: root
root@zgemmah7s.lan's password:
root@zgemmah7:~# cd /proc/stb/frontend
root@zgemmah7:/proc/stb/frontend# ls -lR
.:
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Apr 27 23:50 0

./0:
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 27 23:50 static_current_limiting
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 27 23:50 static_current_limiting_choices
root@zgemmah7:/proc/stb/frontend#

[abu baniaz]

Then your receiver is not capable of using internal loop through. Please disregard my earlier comment about loop through. Sorry.

[BrianTheTechieSnail]

Then your receiver is not capable of using internal loop through. Please disregard my earlier comment about loop through. Sorry.

No problem.