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    Quote Originally Posted by Huevos View Post
    I'll say again... there is no EIT on 28 east.
    1. So what's the field in the timers labelled eit?:

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    <timer begin="1611478800" end="1611482520" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1D:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="The Andrew Marr Show" description="Andrew Marr is joined by Nicola Sturgeon MSP, Matt Hancock MP, Lisa Nandy MP and Yuli Edelstein. With news review by Geri Scott. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" eit="19211" tags="AutoTimer The_Andrew_Marr_Show" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="1">
    <log code="500" time="1610921689">[AutoTimer] Try to add new timer based on AutoTimer The Andrew Marr Show.</log>
    <log code="509" time="1610921689">[AutoTimer] Timer start on: Sun Jan 24 09:00:00 2021</log>
    </timer>
    <timer begin="1611478801" end="1611482520" serviceref="1:0:19:4484:4083:233A:EEEE0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="The Andrew Marr Show" description="Andrew Marr is joined by Nicola Sturgeon MSP, Matt Hancock MP, Lisa Nandy MP and Yuli Edelstein. With news review by Geri Scott. [S] [HD]" afterevent="auto" eit="19211" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0">
    <log code="15" time="1611476550">record time changed, start prepare is now: Sun Jan 24 08:59:41 2021</log>
    </timer>
    [28.2e and terrestrial]

    2. And what does the VPS plugin interrogate then?

    3. Why doesn't the eit field populated from iepg-1 match that from crossepg - if, as you assert, they are from the same source then the inbuilt harvester must be incorrectly populating the field:

    Crossepg:
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    <timer begin="1610996400" end="1611000120" serviceref="1:0:19:52D0:814:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Channel 4 News" description="Channel 4&apos;s flagship news programme. Including the weather." afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="1" eit="4934" tags="AutoTimer Channel_4_News" autoTimerId="172">
    <log code="500" time="1610394313">[AutoTimer] Try to add new timer based on AutoTimer Channel 4 News.</log>
    <log code="509" time="1610394313">[AutoTimer] Timer start on: Mon Jan 18 19:00:00 2021</log>
    </timer>
    iepg-1:
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    <timer begin="1610990101" end="1610992920" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1C:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Pointless" description="" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="49684" tags="">
    <log code="15" time="1610987462">record time changed, start prepare is now: Mon Jan 18 17:14:41 2021</log>
    </timer>

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    Not sure what you're trying to prove, you've shown 3 different programmes from 3 different sources?

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    EIT Schedule is not present on 28 east so anything that is not now/next must come from a proprietary EPG, i.e Sky, Frresat or online download.
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    The only EIT data on 28e is NOW & NEXT data (but it is EIT data). Freeview (terrestrial) has full 7 day EIT data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccs View Post
    Not sure what you're trying to prove, you've shown 3 different programmes from 3 different sources?
    and 3 different numbered questions - so we can see the answers to each question.

    The first sample shows the identical eit data on DVB-S and DVB-T and asks where that comes from on DVB-S

    The 2nd 2 samples show DVB-T sampled from iepg-1 and crossepg and that the eit field is different (and incorrect) on iepg-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huevos View Post
    EIT Schedule is not present on 28 east so anything that is not now/next must come from a proprietary EPG, i.e Sky, Frresat or online download.
    which of the numbered questions are you answering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronand View Post
    The only EIT data on 28e is NOW & NEXT data (but it is EIT data). Freeview (terrestrial) has full 7 day EIT data.
    Where does the eit field in the timers I posted get populated from and how does it manage to match the now/next data which VPS uses for signalling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goRt View Post
    The 2nd 2 samples show DVB-T sampled from iepg-1 and crossepg and that the eit field is different (and incorrect) on iepg-1
    Surely they're different because they are for 2 different programmes, "Channel 4 News" and "Pointless", or are am I losing the plot completely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccs View Post
    Surely they're different because they are for 2 different programmes, "Channel 4 News" and "Pointless", or are am I losing the plot completely?
    My mistake corrected samples for the same programme (pointless being the next pgm on the epg at the time, not something I watch):
    iepg-1:
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    <timer begin="1610990101" end="1610992920" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1C:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Pointless" description="" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="49684" tags="">
    <log code="15" time="1610987462">record time changed, start prepare is now: Mon Jan 18 17:14:41 2021</log>
    </timer>
    crossepg:
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    <timer begin="1610990100" end="1610992920" serviceref="1:0:19:1B1C:802:2:11A0000:0:0:0:" repeated="0" rename_repeat="1" name="Pointless" description="" afterevent="auto" justplay="0" always_zap="0" pipzap="0" conflict_detection="1" descramble="1" record_ecm="0" isAutoTimer="0" eit="18580" tags=""/>
    As you see - same pgm, totally different eit (where does the eit field get populated from on 28,2e?)

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    Its getting the EIT data OTA on 28e (where else would it get it?). As you have said its the NEXT program in the epg then EIT data will be available for it. There is no EIT possible when using crossepg or IEPG1 etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronand View Post
    Its getting the EIT data OTA on 28e (where else would it get it?). As you have said its the NEXT program in the epg then EIT data will be available for it. There is no EIT possible when using crossepg or IEPG1 etc.
    Please follow the steps I detailed to replicate the problem.

    1. All of the timers set from autotimers for the next 7 days contain eit data, I only record from DVB-S, where does the eit data come from (I can purge the epg.dat and disable DVB-T harvesting)?

    2. Why does the eit number for iepg-1 harvested data differ from that harvested by crossepg

    3. Why does the crossepg eit data (for timers set days in advance) match the now/next eit data when iepg-1 eit data does not?

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    There are two types of EIT EPG. 7 days and now/next. 28.2 also Freesat EPG. Please try disabling Freesat EPG reader and see what happens.

    Your posts about EIT number are the first time that I noticed them. I never knew they existed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    There are two types of EIT EPG. 7 days and now/next. 28.2 also Freesat EPG. Please try disabling Freesat EPG reader and see what happens.
    Yes, I'm aware that there are 2 types of EIT, they have to match for VPS to function.

    What do you mean by "Freesat EPG", I'm using OPENTV 28.2e within crossepg.

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    You seem to be getting several sets of epg data and getting mixed up. The freesat epg also uses an extended set of EIT data.
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    The Freesat EPG reader being enabled means whenever you are on a service that has Freest EPG, it will absorb the EPG data. Go to your EPG settings page, you will see it. Then disable it.

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