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Thread: Unable to receive Thor 0.8W

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    I have a feeling the dish itself is incorrectly assembled. I have a triax td110 and have been trying to compare the pictures. The notch for setting the bracket angle should be on the left (if standing behind the dish) but from the limited photos it seems to be on the right so you are using the wrong scale. You will need to take the dish off and turn the adjustable part around. If you are not sure please post better pictures that we can see the actual installation orientation
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    Here is a picture of mine

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    Edit: The picture gets rotated by the server unfortunately. Rotate clockwise by 90 degrees
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    Here's a link to a demo of a Triax 110cm dish assembly. Just check that your dish and LNB arm are installed the same way. You may have the dish assembled incorrectly, but I would have thought that the LNB arm which goes through the dish would only attach correctly at one end?
    Not sure why the upload is rotating the photos (mine are oriented correctly in portrait mode).

    Anyway - here's a link to a TVTrade video showing a Triax dish. It's a useful website for showing practical how-to videos.
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    Hi all

    I have tried reducing the motor elevation has motor is printed with latitude. I was using 52 Degrees has my lat on the motor and dish elevation looked way too high. So i used the eleavation printed next to the latitude which is 38 Degrees.
    Now the elevation does look low now compared too rest of dishes but still cant get the full arc. At moment can only get 19.2E and Astra 28.2. My posting pics of motor and few pagess of the manual, also i noticed the Sat positions programmed in Motor dont corespond to actaual Sat positions. So wondering if thats the problem why i cant receive full arc.

    See pics of motor used and few manual pages and also dish pics. Also left side of dish has smaller scale printe where on right side of dish a largerscale printedd so dont really lnow which is elevation.
    Did changeelevation bracket round but cant get elevation bracket to slide high up the dish for elevation.

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    Also photos are straight when taken but go side ways when uploaded.

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    Set the Latitude to 52 degrees (not the elevation). Elevation is 90-Latitude=38. The scales are different on each side of the bracket. It doesn't matter which you use as long as you know which is which. You should not be using the motor positions if using USALS - thats only for disecq. You still have the bracket upside down on the dish. Also what degrees are on the LED display on the motor when you are at 28.2?
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    Again - I'll chip in as regards the LNB. The LNB looks like it's pointing straight at the centre of the dish instead of angling upwards. When I google triax 110cm dishes, the LNB arm looks like it is coming fairly straight through the bottom of the dish. The LNB holder then points the LNB upwards towards the dish to catch the reflected signal. Either your LNB arm is attached incorrectly or maybe it is bent?
    As per @ronand's post - your motor latitude should be set to 52 (your latitude), or motor elevation 38 as per my posts also. I see a lot of scratches on the motor arm (elephant's trunk), as if you are moving the dish bracket around. The dish should be attached squarely on the centre line of the motor arm. There is usually a casting mark down the centre of the arm, so the u-bolts of the dish should be exactly symmetric around the centre and not moved subsequently. Maybe the dish bracket being upside down is the cause of the issue, but I still think the LNB arm looks wrong, but maybe it's just the angle of your photo. I see you have a sturdy T & K bracket on the wall of your house - maybe that would get the dish high enough to clear your neighbour's tree? Manhandling a 1.1m dish up a ladder is not for the faint-hearted, though. Been there, bought the tee-shirt etc.... have a look at the screen grab I did from a video on the Triax dish and compare with the LNB arm on yours.
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    The arm is definitely too high. Mine is nearly horizontal at 28e
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronand View Post
    The arm is definitely too high. Mine is nearly horizontal at 28e
    They usually are - most offset dishes look up 30 degrees when they are almost upright. Look at any SKY dish and you will see that the face is practically vertical, because the LNB is tilted up 30 degrees. If @eggie99's LNB arm is actually bent, then game over, but if it's a mounting issue, then it may be fixable.
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    Hi all

    Thanks for your help gladly appreciated. I think fat tony might be right about my Lnb arm being bent, My prevoius property Dish mounted Over rear Roof on a 6 foot pole, due to excessive winds over time the pole snapped in half Dish
    fell down onto a flat roof about 10 Foot drop. So dismantled it and now decided to put it up, so expereincing lots of problems.

    @ ronand when at Astra 28.2 Motor displays 33.6 with 62% signal.

    Anyway thanks all instead of trying to fix this might buy a Gibertini Dish 1.25m with either MTI Lnb or Invacom Lnb with matched Gibby feed horn.

    Any thoughts on Gibby dish is it a good dish ? and which Lnb better MTI or Invacom ?

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    Just a few more pics has Tony couldnt tell if arm bent.

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    Middle Pic where Arm goes through the Dish looks bent compared to Pic Tony sent off Triax dish.

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    It sure seems like the LNB arm is bent. You should be able to tell yourself from looking at it - creases in the metal etc.
    Why are you not using the T&K brackets on the upstairs wall? That's the better location if you want any chance of reception of Thor and 5W - although you would want to be absolutely sure the wall and anchors will take the wind load. No matter how big the dish is, you are not going to get reception through a tree. As regards specialist low-noise LNBs and feed horns - don't waste your money. Dish size trumps all. It's only if you were into marginal signal feed hunting that you would get any benefit from super low-noise LNBs. You really are handicapped by having the dish so close to the ground, with the obstructions around you to the south.
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    Hi
    Thanks for info about the arm , just ordered a new Gibby 1.25m with twin Invacom Lnb with feed horn with delivery all in £260. Which is not a bad price.

    As for the T and K brackets on wall , made a mistake when ordered them, ordered 36 inch long was able to put them up on the wall by standing on the flat roof of bay window but when I came to put the dish up too far out to reach and.ladder ain't big enough to get me to the exact height has the brackets too far out, so might need to change them for 24 inch ones.

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    That's a major price investment for a dish and LNB
    Hope you get the enjoyment out of your purchase - as we say in Ireland - well wear!
    As regards your brackets - the 36" ones are excellent for wall clearance with big dishes (just like the one you've just bought!). You can always stand off the ladder from the wall to reach the pole. It's easy for me to say that, but at 66 years of age, Mrs Fat-Tony won't let me climb ladders anytime soon!
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    Hi all

    Just a quick update , received my new Gibertini 1.25m with Gibertini feedhorn and Invacom twin Lnb. All set up and yes all peeps my old triax 110D arm was bent.
    Now all set up i still cant receive and west sats due to huge tree but can receive all sats right upto 53 degrees east and get a picture have not tried beyond 53 Degrees so dont know if i cant pick anything else up.
    Most Sats in 75 to 80% Signal and Astra 28.2 its 100% and further East i go the signal drops at 53 East i get about 35% but i think the limits on my motor are wrong so need to sort that because Motor wont go past 52.5 East
    hence only 35% on 53 East all in all set up quite good and impressed with new dish.

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    Thanks for every ones help gladly appreciated.

    Eggie

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    That looks a lot better now. Time to get out the chainsaw and finish the job off. There isn't a whole lot beyond 53e to worry about and the dish must be pretty much bang on to get anything on it so leave it alone! Enjoy
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    Well done for persevering.

    Some great advice from Fat-Tony and Ronand

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