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    Quote Originally Posted by Huevos View Post
    Set tuner config to Europe or UK defaults. Open satfinder. Go through each transponder in turn. On each transponder press the yellow button to display the channel names. Work out which is your local mux. Make a note of the TSID/ONID and frequency. Post the result.
    I have updatde the Winter Hill one. Wouldnt that be better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    I have updatde the Winter Hill one. Wouldnt that be better?
    Yes long as the data in source that has been used for updating terrestrial.xml is accurate. Problem for us is we only have the frequencies, not the TSIDs.
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    These were what frequency finder found in uploaded file on post 4.

    Code:
        <customtransponders>
            <customtransponder key="custom" frequency="474000000" transport_stream_id="8008" system="0"/><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="21" -->
            <!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="562000000" transport_stream_id="1048" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="32" -->
            <!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="602000000" transport_stream_id="6040" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="37" -->
            <customtransponder key="custom" frequency="626000000" transport_stream_id="800d" system="0"/><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="40" -->
            <!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="698000000" transport_stream_id="5040" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="49" -->
            <!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="706000000" transport_stream_id="1068" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="50" -->
            <customtransponder key="custom" frequency="738000000" transport_stream_id="4088" system="1"/><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="54" -->
            <customtransponder key="custom" frequency="746000000" transport_stream_id="a000" system="1"/><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="55" -->
            <customtransponder key="custom" frequency="754000000" transport_stream_id="b000" system="1"/><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="56" -->
            <!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="770000000" transport_stream_id="3006" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="58" -->
            <!-- customtransponder key="custom" frequency="778000000" transport_stream_id="200b" system="0"/ --><!-- original_network_id="233a" signalQuality="65535" channel="59" -->
        </customtransponders>

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    Do we know which one is his local mux? Which TSID?
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    His debug log is on post 3. Its doesn't seem to be from ViX and he has not enabled extra debug in ABM. I also find bundles statements unclear and have to be farthmed an probed.

    IMO, far better to post:
    When I run ABM, I get channel uuuuu on LCN vvvvv & frequency wwww. This is wrong. I should get channel xxxx on frequency zzzzz on LCN vvvvv

    Clear post on what you get, confirming it is wrong and also clarifying what it should be. We can then look at logs and find the bits that mentioned instead of guessing what is implied.

    I don't know which petal he is in. The home frequency for all three petals is 706MHz. Anyway, lets see what details can be provided.

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    Sorry i don't understand all the terminology your using, TSID, LCN etc,
    I live in Lancashire, when i use free-view provider = WinterHill (Lancs) channel 7 is blank, when i scanned with frequency finder channel 7 is the wrong petal = Liverpool not Lancashire.
    I don't think the petals are on 706Mhz after clear out and that's where the problem lies i think

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    According to:
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    https://www.freeview.co.uk/help/coverage-checker/detailed-view/granada?postcode=S445ED&address=
    the petals haven't ever been on 706 (BBC-A was, until 20 Feb this year).

    Liverpool is on 474, Manchester on 498 and Preston on 626.
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    @wasp, in the ViX image go to satfinder. Use a skin that shows the TSID data, e.g. Simple1080.

    Start with Birdman's suggested frequencies.

    Once you see the yellow button appear, press it to see what channels are on that mux.

    If you find the channel you are looking for post back the frequency and TSID.
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    Screenshots to illustrate what Huevos is saying attached.
    Menu > Setup > Tuners & Scanning > Signal Finder

    Select the Terrestrial tuner. Then go through them. If you know the frequency/UHF channel that "That's lancashire" is on, go straight to that one.

    In answer to your queries.
    What you are calling channel 7 = LCN 7 (Logical Channel Number). Please do not mix this up with the UHF channel/frequency.
    TSID = Transport Stream ID. See picture. We are interested in the one that has "That's Lancashire"
    I have also posted the ones for your region in post 18.

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    The LCN for "That's TV" is 07,
    The frequency is 626mhz,
    TSID is 32781 (800d)

    as per:

    WebIF.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasp View Post
    The LCN for "That's TV" is 07,
    The frequency is 626mhz,
    TSID is 32781 (800d)

    as per:

    WebIF.jpg
    Is this channel "That's Lancashire".
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    It is "That's TV" for the Lancashire/Preston area (Petal) so yes

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    Now I have a basic idea, does this help:

    LCN 07, "That's TV" at 626mhz, TSID is 32781 (800d) = WinterHill (Lancashire)
    LCN 07,"Liverpool TV" at 474mhz, TSID is 32776 (8008) = WinterHill (Liverpool)
    LCN 07, Manchester I cannot receive but believe it is 498mhz.

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    Ok, try the attached file.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huevos View Post
    Ok, try the attached file.
    Tried the file and all seems great with both WH lancs & WH Liverpool,

    Superb work as usual.
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