Cannot get certain frequencies

[Helvetica]

Abu: I downloaded the xmlupdate plugin.
It saved it to .../tuxbox...
I restarted the box, used xmlupdate but still can't get 12382 H.
I thought the satellites.xml had to be in the etc. folder.
Which folder is correct ?

[bellejt]

in etc/tuxbox

.satellites.zip

[Helvetica]

bellejt - you know you said that the Quest and DMax channels were "on this freq ( 12382H, 27500, 5/6) from 2017 and did not change." ?
I just downloaded our December 2017 settings to have a look at.
In December 2017, all Quests and DMax and DMax +1 were on three frequencies: 11390H, 11464 H and 11584 H.
In January 2019, DMax and DMax+1 were on 11038V.

I used FTP to upload the new satellites.xml. Made a back up of my old one and copied that new one to etc/enigma2.
Still the yellow bar : Scan complete. 0 channels found
So then I manually added that 12382 H etc. using the Edit satellites.xml in Dreambox edit. Restart, switch off, switch on. Still wouldn't find anything.
Moved the dish a bit and tried again, still nothing. It will download every transponder - higher and lower frequencies - except 12382 H.
So then I deleted the satellite.xml files in both etc/tuxbox and etc/enigma2 using my ftp prog and did another xml update/download. Still Scan complete 0 channels found on 12382 H.
What is wrong with 12382H - the settings I enter are all correct. I am at my wits end.

[bellejt]

removed url to king off sat because probably not allowed

[ccs]

Renaming, rather than deleting, a file allows you the quick and easy option of getting back to where you were by simply renaming it back again, if things don't go according to plan.

[Andy_Hazza]

I would try my suggestion from Post #2 and see if ABM (AutoBouquetsMaker) pulls them in, if not sounds like a failing LNB to me.


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[Helvetica]

OK Andy, will try ABM tomorrow.

[abu baniaz]

/etc/tuxbox is system version
/etc/enigma2 is a user version and takes priority. If there is one in there, best to delete it and then restart as you have a newer one in system location

I wouldn't use ABM if you are trying to diagnose/rule out a fault/issue. ABM "reads", it does not "scan" in the conventional sense. If for arguments sake, you had a faulty LNB that could only receive 11778, Vertical, 27500 on 28.2, an ABM "scan" will give you all the Sky channels on 28.2. Even though you can only receive one frequency.

[Helvetica]

Abu, thanks very much for the information. I already tried deleting the xml in /etc/enigma and making it use the downloaded one which it saved to /tuxbox, but sadly it did not make any difference.
I will be getting a new lnb next week and will send my dear husband up onto the roof to fit it.
I haven't deleted and rescanned 28.2 yet. If I do that, I presume that all my current channels on 28.2 will also be deleted and would need to be re-downloaded and sorted again? However, seeing as my backup lamedb etc. (from January) which I copied over using dreamboxedit also does not download that 12382 H, that tells me that something has happened since January. So I think it can only be the LNB or the capacitor which is getting weak.

[Huevos]

You are wasting your time. This transponder has moved to UK beam. How big is the dish?

[twol]

You are wasting your time. This transponder has moved to UK beam. How big is the dish?

Maybe not .... it depends where they are in Switzerland and brave things - they have a motorised 1.5M dish on the roof (not something I would do with our winds - mine is on the garage, heavily bolted with slabs on top of the base)
If they were able to receive before (I cannot - UK spot beams North of Munich are temperamental) then it may be the LNB

[abu baniaz]

Deleting services does not affect bouquets. You will just get the N/A for services that are no longer present.

If you are apprehensive oo doing so, just make a settings backup using backup manager. You can restore it after your test.

[Helvetica]

Re the UK beam. Our dish is 1.5m. We are in NW Switzerland, about 25-30 km NW of Bern.
I just tried to download 10964 H which (according to Lyngsat) is also on the UK beam. All the channels downloaded with no problem. Same with 11082 H and 11344 V and 12129 V - no problem and excellent (93%) signal strength. Just the dreaded 12382 H refuses me..
I'll wait until the coming week when I can go and get the new LNB.

[twol]

Re the UK beam. Our dish is 1.5m. We are in NW Switzerland, about 25-30 km NW of Bern.
I just tried to download 10964 H which (according to Lyngsat) is also on the UK beam. All the channels downloaded with no problem. Same with 11082 H and 11344 V and 12129 V - no problem and excellent (93%) signal strength. Just the dreaded 12382 H refuses me..
I'll wait until the coming week when I can go and get the new LNB.

Yes, UK spot beam should not be a big issue for you, even at Ulm, Germany you can use a 1 .0 metre dish and pick up everything and you are much further West.

[Huevos]

Re the UK beam. Our dish is 1.5m. We are in NW Switzerland, about 25-30 km NW of Bern.
I just tried to download 10964 H which (according to Lyngsat) is also on the UK beam. All the channels downloaded with no problem. Same with 11082 H and 11344 V and 12129 V - no problem and excellent (93%) signal strength. Just the dreaded 12382 H refuses me..
I'll wait until the coming week when I can go and get the new LNB.

10964 H, 11082 H and 11344 V are low band transponders. The first null on those transponders is about 200 km further south than the high band transponders. 12129 V is UK beam but error correction is 2/3. 12382 H is 5/6 error correction, so you would need to go up at least 2 dish sizes compared to a 2/3 transponder.