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    Cannot get certain frequencies

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    Hi all
    I have a 93-95% strong signal on Astra 2 at 28.2° E.
    Some Freeview channels have just changed to different frequencies, so I have been trying to get them into my VU+.
    The most important channels for us are Quest, Quest +, Quest Red and DMax all now on 12382H, 27500, 5/6.
    But try as I might, using the "User Transponder" option and adding the above parameters, and also by using that frequency which is in my satellites.xml list, it says "scanning.... " then 0 channels found.
    The frequency etc are correct, I checked on lyngsat and on kingofsat.
    Can anyone think why I cannot get those channels in, with such a strong signal ?

    Another odd thing is, when I click the centre button on the remote twice, it gives me information about the channel frequency, FEC etc. But the figures shown always differ from what they should be.
    An example is Challenge +1:
    Actual frequency is 11838 H 27500 5/6
    Shown on VU+ in the info window as 14250 H 27500 5/6

    Can anyone suggest any help with the Quest transponder ?
    Last edited by Helvetica; 16-07-19 at 15:54.

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    Have you tried scanning with ABM?


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    quest is on this freq ( 12382H, 27500, 5/6) from 2017 and did not change.Are you scanning in DVB-S QPSK (not S2) ?
    I have the same problem about the shown frequentie.Is there already more then a year.When going to channel trough buttons "TV and red" it shows the right frequentie.Probably a bug in Vix from long time ago that is not fixed or mentioned to the team
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Hazza View Post
    Have you tried scanning with ABM?
    Andy, what is ABM ? Auto Bouquets Maker ?
    I have never used that because a) I already have my bouquets set-up and sorted as I want them (took a day to get them to my liking and b) I have to be VERY careful - we have a 1.5m, 36V motorized, non-Disq powered dish (with Superjack II positioner), so I can't use things like USALS or anything that moves the dish itself otherwise it is likely to hit the chimney.
    I usually do this:
    Menu - Setup - Tuner config - Manual Scan
    On that page I add the frequency, FEC etc. System: DVB-S, Network scan: no, Clear before scan: no, Only free: no.
    Last edited by Helvetica; 16-07-19 at 17:08.

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    use network scan yes.Then your satelites.XML is set up to date.Or transfer yourself latest satelites.xml
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellejt View Post
    quest is on this freq ( 12382H, 27500, 5/6) from 2017 and did not change.
    Yes, but something has definitely changed.
    I can see them (e.g. Quest, Quest +1, Quest red, Quest red+1 etc) in my bouquet with the current program after the names, but I am getting a "Tune Failed" message when I select them.

    Are you scanning in DVB-S QPSK (not S2) ?
    DVB-S

    I am beginning to wonder whether it is caused by the apparently known problem with the C848 capacitor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellejt View Post
    use network scan yes.
    Thanks. I just tried that but still getting "Scan Completed. 0 channels found".

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    I do not need to rescan because they have always been on this frequentie. Maybe update your satelites.xml and problem is solved.Or update image. Could be capacitor but then other channel scans would fale to.
    PS: a transponder in DVB-s should be scanned in DVB-s and Not DVB-s2 .
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    You sure you haven't got a failing LNB?

    Do a manual single satellite scan and post how many services you find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicilian View Post
    You sure you haven't got a failing LNB?
    I am going to try something else tomorrow - see what - if anything - I can download from another Horizontal channel. I tried 11344H and 11082 H this evening to try and get The Vault (11344 H) and Spotlight (11082H) and neither of them succeeded.
    I don't think it's a failing LNB because the Horizontal channels that we already have still work fine. The last time we had a failing LNB we could only get either vertical or horizontal, but not both. At the moment we can watch V and H channels in our channel lists (except the ones like Quest which I am trying to restore).

    It's just trying to add new H channels which appears to be the problem.

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    Some LNBs switch in one direction only. The best check is what Sicilian mentioned, a manual scan, select single satellite, do not enable network scan.

    I would add one more step, remove 28.2 services, restart then perform a scan. This ensures you only have services that you found.

    In live TV mode (i.e no menus showing)
    Up button next to OK
    Green Satellites
    Select 28.2
    Menu
    Remove selected satellite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helvetica View Post
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    Another odd thing is, when I click the centre button on the remote twice, it gives me information about the channel frequency, FEC etc. But the figures shown always differ from what they should be.
    An example is Challenge +1:
    Actual frequency is 11838 H 27500 5/6
    Shown on VU+ in the info window as 14250 H 27500 5/6

    ?
    This is a well know situation with the Duo2 discussed many times in forums. If you press the up or down arrow when watching a channel, the correct transponder information is shown at the bottom left of the screen.

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    Suggesting that I delete 28.2 is like suggesting that I delete Windows from my PC
    I just moved the dish to 19 East (now that my husband has fixed a broken bolt on the dish and I can move it again) and there I can download V and H channels. The highest frequency I tried was 12604 H 22000 5/6 and that downloaded fine.
    So I went to the satellites.xml maker page, entered my coordinates, selected the satellites I want, downloaded the zip file but then noticed the link for Enigma2 converter. It says there "Convert your Enigma2 settings for full compatibility with our satellites.xml. Settings file must be in .zip or .rar format."
    Beneath that is "Settings file" [Browse]

    Do I have to use this for the satellites.xml file which it just generated for me ? And, if I do, which settings file does it need ?

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    Cannot get certain frequencies

    There is a difference between removing services from lamedb and then rescanning (what was advised) and deleting a satellite from satellites.xml. The way scanning works on Enigma2 means there is potential for some services to remain on receiver forever even though they do not work.

    BTW, I suggested you delete cookies and temporary internet files, not uninstall windows.

    Something for you to consider for updating xml file

    https://www.world-of-satellite.com/s...e-xml-updating

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    maybe consider a fresh flash then satelites.xml will be up to date.Or just ftp the file to your box.
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