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    Update from 4.1.016 to latest (5.2.030)?

    Hi,

    I am not sure if this is the right place (please move if not), but I have a Miraclebox Premium Twin+ running 4.1.016 and wondered about upgrading to the latest version. One of the reasons I have not done so earlier is that when I bought it there was a bug in the drivers in 4.2.011 (supplied with the unit) which meant that recording from one tuner scrambled the other tuners. Downgrading 4.1.016 was the recommended solution and I have been running it since.

    One concern with upgrading is what gets lost when doing so? Presumably the recordings are OK but would all settings, Bouquets, Autotimers etc be lost? Can the be backed up and re-used across such widely different versions?

    Also, if I have the same problems with recording multiple tuners (unlikely, I know), how do I find a suitable stable version to go back to? I don't seem to have a copy of 4.1.016 on my PC and the oldest online is 4.2.028.

    Flashing seems the easy part - if there are links to any guides for backing up and the other issues I have mentioned above, I would be grateful.

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    Keith.

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    The first thing you can do is take an image backup of your current system using image manager.

    Then, whatever you do next, you can always get back to where you are now by flashing that backup.

    The normal procedure would be to take a settings backup, flash the latest image and then do a settings restore.

    However, your current image is too old, so you'll have to flash and then start from scratch.

    There are posts around which help to make this process less painful, allowing you to restore most of the original image, I need to find one.

    Here you go.....

    https://www.world-of-satellite.com/s...l=1#post452828
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    Thanks for that, it is really appreciated. I will print out that thread and have a read.

    Keith

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    I know you may think its tedious, but you could update in stages so you can restore from your backup.
    So I would personally do the following;
    Install 4.2.030 & restore your 4.1 backup
    Install 5.0.032 & restore your 4.2 backup
    Install 5.1.033 & restore your 5.0 backup
    Install 5.2.030 & restore your 5.1 backup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Hazza View Post
    I know you may think its tedious, but you could update in stages so you can restore from your backup.
    So I would personally do the following;
    Install 4.2.030 & restore your 4.1 backup
    Install 5.0.032 & restore your 4.2 backup
    Install 5.1.033 & restore your 5.0 backup
    Install 5.2.030 & restore your 5.1 backup

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    4.2 didn't allow a settings restore from an earlier image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Hazza View Post
    I know you may think its tedious, but you could update in stages so you can restore from your backup.
    So I would personally do the following;
    Install 4.2.030 & restore your 4.1 backup
    Install 5.0.032 & restore your 4.2 backup
    Install 5.1.033 & restore your 5.0 backup
    Install 5.2.030 & restore your 5.1 backup

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    What would be the benefit in doing it in stages?

    Keith

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    Quote Originally Posted by keith1200rs View Post
    What would be the benefit in doing it in stages?
    None - because it won't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccs View Post
    None - because it won't work.
    Thanks! When I am feeling brave I will have a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccs View Post
    The first thing you can do is take an image backup of your current system using image manager.

    Then, whatever you do next, you can always get back to where you are now by flashing that backup.

    The normal procedure would be to take a settings backup, flash the latest image and then do a settings restore.

    However, your current image is too old, so you'll have to flash and then start from scratch.

    There are posts around which help to make this process less painful, allowing you to restore most of the original image, I need to find one.

    Here you go.....

    https://www.world-of-satellite.com/s...l=1#post452828
    Does that mean I cannot use the backups for the newer version, e.g. autotimers and other settings etc? The only purpose of backing up would be if I need to go back to 4.1..016.

    Is there a file on the machine which stores the settings in an easily readable form that would at least act as an aid to putting the settings all in again?

    Thanks.

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    An image backup of your current system will allow you to get back to where you are if things go wrong.

    After flashing a new image, a settings backup is normally used to restore your existing setup, but not in your case as 4.1 is too old.

    Take a settings backup as well, it might be handy.

    See the link in my first post.

    Settings are store in /etc/enigma2/settings. If you copy it to your pc you can view it and see what changes you've made.

    Some will be more obvious than others.

    Couch flashing is much easier than usb flashing, there'll be a guide on here somewhere.

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    It is called "settings". It is mentioned in the guide ccs posted a link to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccs View Post
    4.2 didn't allow a settings restore from an earlier image.
    Itís been that long but vaguely remember now. Thanks for the heads up.


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    Thanks. I have found that file and it seems to make some sense. I will be able to use it to help remember how I set things nearly 3 years ago.

    Keith.

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    Why do you need to remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abu baniaz View Post
    Why do you need to remember?
    Initially I read through all the settings and made choices about things such as padding, how long to keep the trash, what all the buttons on the remote do, etc. It would save time if I don't have to re-read all the settings and decide again. I must admit the "settings" file doesn't seem to contain a lot of that, so it must be hidden elsewhere.

    Will the old autotimer.xml work on the newer version?

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