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    Question Looking for a new box

    Hi all,

    Need a bit of advice on how best to replace / complement an ageing (but still working) Vu+ Duo.

    I need a box which handles IPTV very well and optionally (but ideally) handles satellite. If not, then I can always keep the Vu+ running just for satellite.

    Ideally the box would be designed for IPTV with self-updating portal software that can be managed remotely - i.e. not E2. Originally I was just going to get a MAG256, but then I noticed the drastically reduced range of options in the sponsor shop and realised this might be because the market has moved on.

    Can anyone advise on the best box to meet those needs?

    Many thanks in advance!

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    You could look at the Mut@nt HD51. A very fast satellite receiver which has the Stalker plugin for your IPTV needs.


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    Vu+ Ultimo 4K with 3TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Twin Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 4K with 1TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 2 with 1TB HDD 'White Edition', 2x DVB-S2 tuners
    Mut@nt HD2400 with 1TB HDD, 4x DVB-S2 tuners
    Fixed 28.2E Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB and Inverto Unicable Splitter
    Fixed 28.2E Sky Zone 1 45cm Satellite Dish with Octo LNB
    (All receivers installed with the latest Dev build)

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    As much as I agree about the HD51, whilst on holiday I have been using an ios app to watch via IPTV streams my fta favourites and have to say for stability it seems to be much better than Stalker.
    Having said that, the HD51 does give you the alternative of embedded IPTV in the E2 bouquets or Stalker (which also has an EPG)
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> DUR-Line DCR 5-1-8-L4 Multiswitch to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Spaun SUS 5581/33 NFA Multiswitch to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using Legacy ports on multiswitches
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    The GSE Smart IPTV is a wicked app for the iPhone/iPad etc.


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    Vu+ Ultimo 4K with 3TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Twin Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 4K with 1TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 2 with 1TB HDD 'White Edition', 2x DVB-S2 tuners
    Mut@nt HD2400 with 1TB HDD, 4x DVB-S2 tuners
    Fixed 28.2E Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB and Inverto Unicable Splitter
    Fixed 28.2E Sky Zone 1 45cm Satellite Dish with Octo LNB
    (All receivers installed with the latest Dev build)

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    Looking for a new box

    Also to add the Suls plugin can be used on the HD51 as well. You could also look at the range of Formuler boxes specific for IPTV.


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    Vu+ Ultimo 4K with 3TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Twin Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 4K with 1TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 2 with 1TB HDD 'White Edition', 2x DVB-S2 tuners
    Mut@nt HD2400 with 1TB HDD, 4x DVB-S2 tuners
    Fixed 28.2E Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB and Inverto Unicable Splitter
    Fixed 28.2E Sky Zone 1 45cm Satellite Dish with Octo LNB
    (All receivers installed with the latest Dev build)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Hazza View Post
    The GSE Smart IPTV is a wicked app for the iPhone/iPad etc.
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    110% agree! Thats what I am using!! .... and so easy to use.
    Gigablue Quad 4K & UE 4K
    .........FBC Tuners:
    ------------------> DUR-Line DCR 5-1-8-L4 Multiswitch to 1.5M dish(28.2E)
    ------------------> Spaun SUS 5581/33 NFA Multiswitch to 80 cm dish(19.2E)
    .......................> FBC & DVB-S2X into 90cm dish (27.5W) Opticum robust Unicable LNB
    AX HD61, Edision Osmio 4K+, Zgemma H9Combo, Octagon SF8008 , gbtrio4k, h9se using Legacy ports on multiswitches
    Zgemma H9 C/S into Giga4K

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    Thanks all for the fantastic replies. It's why I keep coming to this forum

    I have to be honest, although the app sounds great, in this case it will have to be a box.

    So it looks like we have two contenders:

    Mutant HD51 (£159)
    - 2 x tuner (configurable)
    - Enigma2
    - IPTV: Stalker portal / E2 plugin
    - Storage: SATA HDD / USB

    Formuler S Turbo UHD (£115)
    - 1 x S2 tuner
    - Android
    - IPTV: Built-in portal
    - Storage: Micro SD / USB

    Performance specs are broadly similar.

    At the moment I'm leaning more towards the Formuler because I think it'll require less maintenance and it offers a slightly more integrated experience between satellite and IPTV. It'd be great to hear from anyone who has either of these boxes though to tell me if that's a reasonable assumption or not?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikesh View Post
    Thanks all for the fantastic replies. It's why I keep coming to this forum

    I have to be honest, although the app sounds great, in this case it will have to be a box.

    So it looks like we have two contenders:

    Mutant HD51 (£159)
    - 2 x tuner (configurable)
    - Enigma2
    - IPTV: Stalker portal / E2 plugin
    - Storage: SATA HDD / USB

    Formuler S Turbo UHD (£115)
    - 1 x S2 tuner
    - Android
    - IPTV: Built-in portal
    - Storage: Micro SD / USB

    Performance specs are broadly similar.

    At the moment I'm leaning more towards the Formuler because I think it'll require less maintenance and it offers a slightly more integrated experience between satellite and IPTV. It'd be great to hear from anyone who has either of these boxes though to tell me if that's a reasonable assumption or not?

    Cheers
    I would opt for the Mutant especially if it's going to be used for satellite more than the Formuler. I recently sold the Formuler because the satellite configuration and channel management was cumbersome as it isn't openvix base so you won't get AutoboquetsMaker.
    As an iptv delivery box it's fine but then again so is an amazon firestick at only £30 compared to £115 for the formuler.

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    i would go for the Mutant HD51 also..... i have 3 xtrend boxes and run openvix and IPTV fine just, i use sly skin and run satellite and IPTV bouquets

    hope it helps
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    Xtrend ET8000 Latest Openvix Image
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    Xtrend ET8500 Latest Openvix Image 4.2
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    HTPC Windows 7 Kodi

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    OK but that is essentially the same as my existing setup (Vu+ Duo) but with better hardware, right? Or are there any software benefits with the Mutant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikesh View Post
    OK but that is essentially the same as my existing setup (Vu+ Duo) but with better hardware, right? Or are there any software benefits with the Mutant?
    I think you’ve made your mind up, go with the easy option, get a formuler (IPTV specific receiver), at least you know what you are getting then.


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    Vu+ Ultimo 4K with 3TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Twin Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 4K with 1TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 2 with 1TB HDD 'White Edition', 2x DVB-S2 tuners
    Mut@nt HD2400 with 1TB HDD, 4x DVB-S2 tuners
    Fixed 28.2E Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB and Inverto Unicable Splitter
    Fixed 28.2E Sky Zone 1 45cm Satellite Dish with Octo LNB
    (All receivers installed with the latest Dev build)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Hazza View Post
    I think you’ve made your mind up, go with the easy option, get a formuler (IPTV specific receiver), at least you know what you are getting then.


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    Lol I promise I haven't, I am happy to be convinced either way. If anything, I have no idea what I'm getting with the Formuler. If the satellite configuration is cumbersome (as stated above), it doesn't meet my needs either.

    I guess the real question is - will the Mutant deliver strong IPTV performance or am I better off buying a MAG and running it with the Vu+ in parallel?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikesh View Post
    Lol I promise I haven't, I am happy to be convinced either way. If anything, I have no idea what I'm getting with the Formuler. If the satellite configuration is cumbersome (as stated above), it doesn't meet my needs either.

    I guess the real question is - will the Mutant deliver strong IPTV performance or am I better off buying a MAG and running it with the Vu+ in parallel?

    Cheers
    Do you have an Apple TV at all? Only reason I ask, is if so, you could try the GSE Smart IPTV Pro app on it and that might be suffice for you?
    I prefer e2 boxes, but I have friends who swear by MAG boxes for their IPTV needs.


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    Vu+ Ultimo 4K with 3TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Twin Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 4K with 1TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 2 with 1TB HDD 'White Edition', 2x DVB-S2 tuners
    Mut@nt HD2400 with 1TB HDD, 4x DVB-S2 tuners
    Fixed 28.2E Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB and Inverto Unicable Splitter
    Fixed 28.2E Sky Zone 1 45cm Satellite Dish with Octo LNB
    (All receivers installed with the latest Dev build)

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    The Formuler remote conflicts with Enigma2 remotes, it also tries to configure itself as a gamepad in Kodi.

    I am not really sure its fit for purpose and am considering sending mine back

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    Won’t conflict with the Vu+ receiver as he can change to different frequencies quite easily.


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    Vu+ Ultimo 4K with 3TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Twin Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 4K with 1TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 2 with 1TB HDD 'White Edition', 2x DVB-S2 tuners
    Mut@nt HD2400 with 1TB HDD, 4x DVB-S2 tuners
    Fixed 28.2E Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB and Inverto Unicable Splitter
    Fixed 28.2E Sky Zone 1 45cm Satellite Dish with Octo LNB
    (All receivers installed with the latest Dev build)

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