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    Poor picture quality vix 4.2

    I have an ET10k Upgraded from Vix 3.2.036 to 4.2 and hit the same problem as others using ET8k. Even HD is not as sharp as it was with 3.2 and SD has vertical lines/bands, very visible on poorer film/program source. Also 4.2 is very slow to change to Radio source, whereas 3.2 is instant. Gone back to 3.2.036 and great picture quality again. So will stay there. My VU+ Solo2 has 3.2.035 and is fine and will leave that well alone. Old adage seems to step in here, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.

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    No such issues with the Vu+ Solo2. You will be ok to update that and at least you will have access to the feeds/plugins.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Hazza View Post
    No such issues with the Vu+ Solo2.
    And not with any of my boxes either.
    I take it you didn't install the video enhancement plugin, and disabled all so-called video enhancers on your telly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meadsmat View Post
    IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT.
    From this I take it you don't want understand what updates are about. Indeed: bug fixing takes place all the time, so things that are broken in one version, could be fixed in another. But mainly it's a matter of development: we tend to enhance our images, add extra functionality and extra features. You may or may not like them, but that's nothing to do with 'broken'.
    Of course: if you're happy with an old image, and you don't mind it to be unsupported and without feeds: feel free to use that.
    on the other hand: since we spend literally thousands of hours to do what we do, and we supply everything for free, a somewhat more detailed (bug?) report, complete with all kinds of details, might help us to find any issue (if there is actually one). As none of our team can reproduce any PQ-related issues, we can't 'fix' anything by statements that people revert to very old image-versions.

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    No I don't use the video enhancement plugin. I don't have the need to do so, as I do all my tweaks via my tv's.


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    Vu+ Ultimo 4K with 3TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Twin Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 4K with 1TB HDD, Dual FBC (Sat) tuners, 1x Hybrid DVB-C/T/T2 tuner
    Vu+ Solo 2 with 1TB HDD 'White Edition', 2x DVB-S2 tuners
    Mut@nt HD2400 with 1TB HDD, 4x DVB-S2 tuners
    Fixed 28.2E Technomate 65cm Mesh Satellite Dish with Inverto Unicable II/JESS LNB and Inverto Unicable Splitter
    Fixed 28.2E Sky Zone 1 45cm Satellite Dish with Octo LNB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    As none of our team can reproduce any PQ-related issues, we can't 'fix' anything by statements.
    But what receivers are your team running? Could this be a simple case of they dont run any of the 3 makes of receivers that have been discussed on this topic?
    I recall Abu has seen the seen the same problem on his lx3, does he not have any input on the images you guys make?

    Im not knocking you or the team at all so forgive me if you think i am but this is a known problem and would love to see you guys sort it out.

    Im dieing to try the new iskin :-)
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    A skin has nothing to do with PQ. If you're not satisfied with the quality of the OSD (skin) please try a 1080-skin: they're available on the feeds.
    PQ itself is only about the quality of the video contents.


    But: whatever any PQ-related issue: an image can't change anything in that area. It's fully hardware/driver dependant.
    Most boxes and surely all makes are in the team, and we always try to reproduce issues reported by our esteemed audiance.

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    I´m having no problems with picture quality ET10000/Sony KDL-52HX903. I am using video enhancement plugin. Basic mode for video in ET10000 is 576i/50 Hz/16:9. I trust Sony can handle the scaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    A skin has nothing to do with PQ. I
    You misunderstand mate.
    I never said i was having skin problems or that it is the cause.
    I said im wanting to try the new iskin in 4.2....but sadly cant....at the moment anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Hazza View Post
    No I don't use the video enhancement plugin. I don't have the need to do so, as I do all my tweaks via my tv's.
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    So you turn off all TV "tweaks" ? The only good tweak on a TV is to use either a THX calibrated display option(which will turn off all the tweaks) or get it properly calibrated
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    Quote Originally Posted by tappari View Post
    I am using video enhancement plugin.
    why? Which settings?

    Quote Originally Posted by tappari View Post
    Basic mode for video in ET10000 is 576i/50 Hz/16:9. I trust Sony can handle the scaling.
    That's about the worst possible setting you can think of. Now all video is being downscaled by the box to that extreme low resolution, and then again upscaled by your telly. Both scalings are not lossfree.
    Why would you choose such a setting? If you're happy with the result you're either very far away from your screen (over 5 meter), or your eyes are very bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    But: whatever any PQ-related issue: an image can't change anything in that area. It's fully hardware/driver dependant.
    This is a question ive asked a few times...but nobody has come up with an answer yet, so maybe you can shed some light on it?.

    If the above statement is true then why does this not happen in 4.1 and below? Ive been told there was no driver upates by xtrend in 4.2 either so surely it cant be a driver issue?

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    There's simply nothing in any image that does anything with the PQ; it's the SoC that handles the complete TS, up to the video output. The drivers are indeed involved, as they govern the SoC. For driver updates one can have a look at the OE-A change logs.
    The ET8000/1000 had a kernel (and hence a driver) update some time this year. It's known that this update had some drawbacks (old bug revived), so possibly also in this area. atm I only have a 32"TV at my disposal: on that one I have PQ-issues with my 8000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob van der Does View Post
    There's simply nothing in any image that does anything with the PQ; it's the SoC that handles the complete TS, up to the video output. The drivers are indeed involved, as they govern the SoC. For driver updates one can have a look at the OE-A change logs.
    The ET8000/1000 had a kernel (and hence a driver) update some time this year. It's known that this update had some drawbacks (old bug revived), so possibly also in this area. atm I only have a 32"TV at my disposal: on that one I have PQ-issues with my 8000.
    That makes perfect sense and was the answer i was looking for.
    I havnt read the change log to be fair, i was just going on what i was told about the driver when i first noticed the issue which lead me to beleive there was a bug within the image.

    Lets hope xtrend can resolve the kernal/driver issue then.
    Untill then im happy to stay with 4.1.

    Thanks Rob.
    Last edited by kryton; 14-10-16 at 09:31.

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    I've not noticed any PQ issues with my ET10K with 4.2 using a Sony tv.

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