CI conax module + valid card not working

[kvarnstj]

Hi!

I have a CI Conax module (SCM Microsystems Conax), with a valid card in it, provided by my cable TV provider.
I can't get the channels working at all with OpenVIX Zeus (have not tried older). I flashed my Ultimo with BlackHole image, and channels worked out of the box. Also my TV can manage to get the module to work, but not OpenVIX
I get this message after while
No data on transponder. Timeout reading PAT.
In the CI Assignment menu I see it registered as Conax 4.00e. When pressing edit for it, the UI crashes.
Can anybody help me with this?

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[rte]

My Vu+Ultimo gives a CAM-message something like "not a valid receiver". I suppose a proper CAM+valid card is somehow paired with the accepted receivers chip. My TV-set Samsung works and is listed by the distributor. They exclude Vu+ with purpose. Can anyone comfirm this?

[kvarnstj]

Hi!

A CI+ module needs to be paired, but I am talking about a regular CAM Conax module, which don't need pairing of any kind. As said, the module works on Blackhole image out-of-the-box, but not with OpenVIX. Actually I have used this same module with Vix 2 images, and it worked fine. However the card was from another service provider at that time.
Could someone from VIX team comment on the support of CAM modules in VIX Zeus, are they supported at all?

[Rob van der Does]

CAM support is solely dependant on the drivers; so if it works in BH it should also work in ViX.
However: AFAIK nobody in our team has suck a module, so actually testing isn't possible.

[Creators]

This means that should be used exclusively for Softcam!

[kvarnstj]

Hi!

Yesterday, I tried with a new CAM module, a CI+ module, with card and module linked together by the service provider. No luck this time either. Today I will try the same with BH image, and check if it works.
It really seems to me that OpenVIX image is missing the ability for channel decryption with CAM module (really a shame).

[Rob van der Does]

As I said before:

CAM support is solely dependant on the drivers;

So there's absolutely nothing we can do.

[kvarnstj]

I understand that it might be dependant on drivers, and you cannot impact those. But maybe the problem is with how the drivers are used? I don't get it, how can it work on BH but not on OpenVIX, if the drivers are the same? If the driver it self wouldn't work, then this should not work on BH either, right?

[Rob van der Does]

Right.

But there's one complicating factor: VU is using ancient versions of Open Embedded and E2, and they are apparently not interested in updating their libraries and packages (it's roughly comparable to sticking to use Windows XP, while the world has moved on). And as most hardware developers and we as well do move forwards, it is possible that the VU drivers don't support all functions they should support. And VU support stops at the moment something is working in their ancient environment.

[IAmATeaf]

So would the drivers in BH not be the same as those used in Zeus?

[Rob van der Does]

Yes, they are.
Not sure why you ask? My explanation wasn't clear then?

[IAmATeaf]

I was wondering why this would work on BH but not on ViX if the drivers used are the same that's all.

[Maxwell]

maybe the box is a clone like your solo2 ?

[IAmATeaf]

I don't even have or use this module, I was just simply curious why it work with BH and not ViX.

Not too sure what the commemt about a clone has to do with it, yes I do have a clone solo2 but I also have an original Duo.

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[kvarnstj]

Did some more testing. I have one Conax CI module and one CI+ module under test, same card.
As said, CI module works with BH and Vu+ own image, but not with Vix. However this very same module has worked a few years ago with some Vix 2.x image. So Vix has taken a step backwards what comes to decrypting channels. This is a shame since I find Vix the only good and userfriendly image out there, e.g. the EPG is useless in other images. I would not like to swap to another image.
What comes to the CI+ module, I don't know if that is supported by VU+ receivers at all? Can someone comment on that?
Did not get it to work on any other image either. The pairing of module and card is done by the
Service provider, and should be ok. Need to double check that. However, now it seems that CAMs are not supported by Vix at all ( apart from softcam), which really is a shame. I find this a very fundamental feature to have in a receiver, in terms of legal channel decryption. You have explained that there is nothing you can do about it, but I still can't exept the fact that it would be undoable. If it works in all other images I have tried. Please try to make it work, I can send any log you need.