Dish realignment

[buz]

Hi. I have a 1 mt motorised dish that was fitted for me. I have vu duo and vix 1.3 image and use usals. Works great on whole. However in last few weeks I have lost 16e and 7w. All other satellites work fine. I think dish might be slightly out of alignment, due to recent strong winds, across the arc as if I go into positioner I can lock onto satellite with just 1 step west for 16e. Even though I can lock on, as I am using usals cannot find a way to isolate these sats from usals in order to use. How much is average cost to have dish realigned. Is there any other way of fixing eg. Manually adjusting settings in xml file or does anyone have other ideas. Thanks

[Braggster]

Hi mate i had same probs aweek or go and used this guide may help ya may not

How to Manually tune and store sat positions on VU+ Duo

If you have a VU+ Duo and your dish isn`t 100% alligned correctly you may need to store some positions manually. I have had to do this myself and thought the process was stupid and awkward to set up so when another member was experiancing the same problems I thought I would do a tutorial........

First of all you will need to go to tuner configuration

MENU - SETUP - SERVICE SEARCHING -TUNER CONFIGURATION

For now disable tuner 2 (set to not configured) and set tuner 1 to advanced.

next go to positioner setup

MENU - SETUP - SERVICE SEARCHING - POSITIONER SETUP

Select the tune tab and hit the red button, You will now be given a box where you can manually enter satellites and transponders of your choice., Here is a brief list of the strongest reference transponders for each sat.

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eptember 24~2010 update transponders & Incline orbit satellites
Strongest Transponders
Satellite--------Position~~~Freq--Pol--s/r ---tv station
53 east to 58 west fta except where indicated,
Express AM22 @ 53' east 11660H 2143 Toloint (Tol News)* Thanks to Saga Lout for info
Intelsat-12 @ 45 east 11686V 5787 Prima
Intelsat-12 @ 45 east dvb-s2 11632V 20000 Latina F
Turksat 3A @ 42 east 11804V 24444 CNN Turk
Express AM-1 @ 40 east 10967V 20000 Muzika MPEG-4 {Orbit now inclined 0.3 degrees) "no reception here atm"
Hellas Sat-2 @39 east 12606H 30000 ERT World
Eutelsat W-7 @ 36 east 12546H 2734 MediaSat
EuroBird-3 @ 33.2 east 11595V 27500 Map Tv.
Turksat 1C @ 31 east No transmissions atm (2.3 degrees Inclined Orbit)
Astra 2D @ 28.2 east 10773H 22000 BBC-1
Badr-4 @ 26 east 12523H 27500 Kuwait tv
Astra 3B @ 23.5 east 11914H 27500 TV Noord
Eutelsat W-6 @ 21.6 east dvb-s2 11560H 5000 LBC
Astra 1L @ 19.2 east 11597V 22000 BBC World
Eutelsat Sesat @ 16 east 11055V 27900 My-Music
Eutel W2M @ 16 east 11282H 27500 Vizion+
EuroBird-16 @ 15.8 east 10834V 27500 Kopernikus
Hot Bird 6 @ 13 east 11642H 27500 Bloomberg Europe.
Eutel W2A @ 10 east 11144H 2441 ANB
EuroBird 9A @ 9 east 11804V 27500 Lux
Eutel W3A @ 7 east 11282V 27500 M6 Swiss
Astra 4A @ 4.8 east 11766H 27500 KRT
EuroBird 4A @ 4 east 12540H 39060 data
Astra 1C @ 2 east feeds at times incl 3.7 deg
Astra 1D @ 1.8 east feeds at times inc 2.8deg
Thor-5 @ 0.8 west 11862H 27500 BBC World News
Strongest transponders list is compiled for Alsat Forum
Thor-5 @ 0.8 west 12341 28000 Duna 1HD MPEG-4
Intelsat 10-02 @ 1 west 12643H 27500 DDTV
Amos-2 @ 4 west 10722H 27500 1Plus1
AtlanticBird-3 @ 5 west 11096V 29950 NRJ Paris
Nilesat 101 @ 7 west 11823V 27500 Kuwait Sport
AtlanticBird-2 @ 8 west 11070H 2100 Ishtar "New"
Express AM44 @ 11 west 11550H 1600 Conad TV "Update"
Express AM44 @ 11 west dvb-s2 11560H 16560 Gold tv
AtlanticBird-1 @12.5 west 11340H 2279 Cancao Nova Int
Telstar 12 @ 15 west 12608H 19279 BBC Persian..
Intelsat 901 @ 18 west 11606H 8500 data
Intelsat 901 @ 18 west dvb-s2 11497H 1181 Sonce
NSS-7 @ 22 west 12734H 18084 Algeria
Intelsat 905 @ 24.5 west 11172V 1860 loveworld
Intelsat 907 @ 27.5 west 11665V 13020 Ch 5 regions encrypt
Hispasat 1C @ 30 west 12092V 27500 Al Jazeera Intl
Hispasat 1C @ 30 west dvb-s2 12012H 30000 Euronews
Intelsat 903 @ 34.5 west 11504V 14261 data.
Intelsat 903 @ 34.5 west dvb-s2 11026V 8500 data
Telstar 11N @ 37.6 west dvb-s2 11677V 18159 data
William-1 @ Alsat.co.uk/forum
Intelsat 14 @ 45 west 11674V 1240 Canal Info News in MPEG-4
Intelsat 3R @ 50.1 west No regular transmission atm moved from 43 west,
Intelsat-9 @ 58 west Feeds at times but no regular transmissions



Enter the details of the transponder of your choice and hit the ok button...

now, you should be back on the previous positioner setup screen, .... go down to the positioner fine movement tab and use the green and yellow buttons to manually step the dish east or west until you find the strongest point. (it helps here if you already have the dish reasonably close to the sat you are looking for)

When you have found the strongest position go to the store tab and pick a position to store that sat at. I usually go for the highest numbers so as not to upset other stored positions. then GREEN BUTTON TO STORE

Next go back to tuner configuration again

MENU - SETUP - SERVICE SEARCHING -TUNER CONFIGURATION

configuration mode - advanced
satellite - (choose the satellite you are looking to find)
lnb - lnb1
Ignore the next few tabs until you come to diseqc mode and select 1.2, (this should open up extra menus below)
next go to the bottom of the list and where it says "use usals for this satellite select NO
you will then be asked for the stored position to use. Put the stored position here that you used when setting up the positioner earler.... hit ok and it should save

Now you need to go to Manual scan

MENU - SETUP - SERVICE SEARCHING -MANUAL SCAN

in here select tuner A and for type of scan select single satellite (and choose the sat you are trying to find),.. OK

the box should now start scanning the satellite using the stored position rather than usals ;)

If the box says "nothing to scan, please set up your tuner configuration" you need to update your satellites xml file, You can create your own own here http://www.satellites-xml.eu/ or use this one that I created today for myself (3/11/2010, 30w-45e)
satellites.xml.zip
(Ftp it to ETC/TUXBOX replacing any existing existing satellites xml if it asks ;) )

Personally I do all my sats this way as I not a big fan of usals, its slower and more time consuming but i find manually tuning gets better results than depending on usals.

when you have finished remember to go back and re-enable the second tuner with the correct setup, if its a second cable of the same lnb etc select this option etc as selecting simple here with make it start using usals again for the second tuner..

[buz]

Thanks mate. At moment tuner A is motorised and tuner B is fixed sky dish. Guessing I would just need to disable tuner B in first steps and follow same process. If I do this would it mean I can't use usals for all the other sats that currently work ok or will it use usals for those and fixed position for the 2 I set myself ie. 16e and 7w. Thanks

[Sicilian]

You could try adjusting your Longitude if its not too far out. For instance mine has moved slightly, so instead of using .200 WEST, I've set to .300 EAST to compensate.

[buz]

mine is currently 005.000 west and latitude 052.500 north. What do you suggest. Thanks

[Sicilian]

mine is currently 005.000 west and latitude 052.500 north. What do you suggest. Thanks

Try tweaking the longitude either way and going through the are, say 005.300 or 004.500, just tweek a bit either to see what works best.

[chippy]

If your dish has moved the correct thing to do is move it back,buy a cheap sat meter,line upon thor,move east west to get the best scream and lock it down,much easier than playing with setting and the correct thing to do

chippy

[buz]

Thanks Sicilian. Worked a treat. Will save me a few quid getting dish realigned. Well atleast until wind strikes again.

[Sicilian]

Thanks Sicilian. Worked a treat. Will save me a few quid getting dish realigned. Well atleast until wind strikes again.

It might not move anymore. Mine done the same thing and has never moved since :)

[Larry-G]

this is why i love DISEqC 1.2. just go into the motor setup page and nudge the dish a click or two in either direction and save the changes.

[Foxylady]

I had issue with service unavailable tuner errors, tried the tut braggster gave but to no avail, i ended up to be sure reflashing box has i had accidently installed cam2.2.0 when i wanted 2.2.1 and could not remove it thus reflashed, did rescan use DISEqC 1.2 setup as i always do simply easy and all up and running perfectly