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I'm not sure what the correct terminology is, so I will describe what I want to achieve in the hope I can get some pointers:
Currently we are using the DLNA client app on an old Sony TV to stream recorded programs (only) from a Mut@nt PVR. The Sony TV firmware is quite old and it will not play 1080p videos over DLNA from the Mut@nt, unless I transcode them first to AC3 audio. At the same time I also have to transcode the video to h264 and remux into a ts, otherwise the playback has repeated momentary audio glitches. This is quite tedious to do, requires planning in advance and is limited to recorded programs, not live TV transmissions (terrestrial TV reception is bad in the room where the Sony TV is located).
I am looking for a 'box' which will act as a streaming client for the Mut@nt PVR, to stream both live TV and recorded programs from the Mut@nt to the Sony TV, up to 1080p resolution. It should have an HDMI port to connect to the Sony TV and 1Gbps ethernet. I do not need wireless capability, as the two locations are connected with wired ethernet. I also do not need a second PVR, just to use it as a streaming client. The client should be operated with a remote control and be able to pause and resume playback, rewind, etc. I thought of repurposing a PC and using OpenWebIf on it, but given the need to configure and maintain yet-another-PC-system, I would prefer the simplicity of a purpose built device.
Grateful for any suggestions,
I'm not sure what the correct terminology is, so I will describe what I want to achieve in the hope I can get some pointers:
Currently we are using the DLNA client app on an old Sony TV to stream recorded programs (only) from a Mut@nt PVR. The Sony TV firmware is quite old and it will not play 1080p videos over DLNA from the Mut@nt, unless I transcode them first to AC3 audio. At the same time I also have to transcode the video to h264 and remux into a ts, otherwise the playback has repeated momentary audio glitches. This is quite tedious to do, requires planning in advance and is limited to recorded programs, not live TV transmissions (terrestrial TV reception is bad in the room where the Sony TV is located).
I am looking for a 'box' which will act as a streaming client for the Mut@nt PVR, to stream both live TV and recorded programs from the Mut@nt to the Sony TV, up to 1080p resolution. It should have an HDMI port to connect to the Sony TV and 1Gbps ethernet. I do not need wireless capability, as the two locations are connected with wired ethernet. I also do not need a second PVR, just to use it as a streaming client. The client should be operated with a remote control and be able to pause and resume playback, rewind, etc. I thought of repurposing a PC and using OpenWebIf on it, but given the need to configure and maintain yet-another-PC-system, I would prefer the simplicity of a purpose built device.
Grateful for any suggestions,
I have a very small, Octagon sfx6008 ip that would do that (1080p max) in C/S mode. Has lan connection and hdmi out.
Thanks twol,
Does the Octagon sfx6008 allow the streaming of live TV from your PVR, besides playing video recordings?
I'm trying to understand what interface is presented on the TV driven by the Octagon sfx6008, or a modern equivalent model with a 1Gbps ethernet port. Will it mirror the Mut@nt interface?
Thanks twol,
Does the Octagon sfx6008 allow the streaming of live TV from your PVR, besides playing video recordings?
I'm trying to understand what interface is presented on the TV driven by the Octagon sfx6008, or a modern equivalent model with a 1Gbps ethernet port. Will it mirror the Mut@nt interface?
I am assuming that the mutant pvr you mention is hd51 or ? ..running an enigma image?
As long as teh above is true, then the Octagons setup as C/S (client server) in tuner settings and set to the IP address of your Mutant it will mirror the channels on the mutant and the remote will be similar to the mutant in controling teh Octagon and its menu‘s, channels, epg etc, Unless you share the HDD on the mutant you will have to add a usb stick to take recordings.
I am assuming that the mutant pvr you mention is hd51 or ? ..running an enigma image? Yes, HD51 with Openvix E2.
As long as teh above is true, then the Octagons setup as C/S (client server) in tuner settings and set to the IP address of your Mutant it will mirror the channels on the mutant and the remote will be similar to the mutant in controling teh Octagon and its menu‘s, channels, epg etc, Unless you share the HDD on the mutant you will have to add a usb stick to take recordings. Thanks, I can enable DLNA on the Mut@nt, assuming Octagon or whichever I end up with has a DLNA client.
So, am I right I should be looking for one of these Android media streaming boxes (https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/media-players-and-streaming/android-media-streaming-and-IPTV-boxes), or is there some particular specification/capabilities I need to pay attention to; e.g. should they be running OpenVix too, capable of h264 video and AAC-HE audio codecs?
Yes, HD51 with Openvix E2.
Thanks, I can enable DLNA on the Mut@nt, assuming Octagon or whichever I end up with has a DLNA client.
So, am I right I should be looking for one of these Android media streaming boxes (https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/media-players-and-streaming/android-media-streaming-and-IPTV-boxes), or is there some particular specification/capabilities I need to pay attention to; e.g. should they be running OpenVix too, capable of h264 video and AAC-HE audio codecs?
If you run with the Octagon, teh C/S package is a built in plugin that doesn,t need anything else except a lan between the 2 boxes - so,what you have in terms of services/channels on the Octagon is the same as the hd51
What protocol is the C/S setup using? Does it require E2 to be running in the client, or will something like Kodi on OSMC also work in this fashion?
What protocol is the C/S setup using? Does it require E2 to be running in the client, or will something like Kodi on OSMC also work in this fashion?
Both boxes are running E2 with one as teh client and one (mutant) as server
Just got a Octagon SX988 which came with DefineOS and OpenATV. I booted into OpenATV which had the GBIPboxClient already installed. After a quick scan it found the Mut@nt HD51 on my LAN and loaded the EPG from it, playing any channels I selected. So far so good.
The GBIPboxClient had an option for accessing the remote HDD and a note I needed to enable Samba on the remote system to be able to access the drive. I wasn't sure if I needed this - or what for - but I enabled it anyway.
I couldn't find any interface option or plugin to access recordings on the Mut@nt, so I installed the DLNA Browser plugin. I tried to use the DLNA Browser to find recordings on the Mut@nt, but only some of these were visible. Anyway, I tried playing some of the STD, 720p, and 1080p recordings I could see listed. The STD recordings freeze after 4 minutes or so. The HD recordings freeze within 3-5 seconds. :-(
Then I installed OpenVIX, which is what the Mut@nt is also running and tried:
1. Using the GBIPboxClient, or uninstalling it and using the OpenVIX native client - the latter wanted the passwd to access ftp on the Mut@nt. Why is ftp access needed on the server?
2. I also tried DLNA Browser, same result.
3. I installed VLC and tried it, but the box crashed when I tried to select the Mut@nt as the server.
I tried with and without Samba running (just in case), but did not make any difference.
I looked at the processes running on the Octagon in case it was running out of RAM or something was amiss. I found a load average of 16.04, with some 10% of CPU taken up by:
/usr/bin/libreader 720P_50
Isn't that a tad too high? In contrast the Mut@nt shows only 0.18, while recording or on playback.
Is there some setting I need to change, or another plugin to try? Playing back recordings remotely is one of the main reasons I bought this box.
Just got a Octagon SX988 which came with DefineOS and OpenATV. I booted into OpenATV which had the GBIPboxClient already installed. After a quick scan it found the Mut@nt HD51 on my LAN and loaded the EPG from it, playing any channels I selected. So far so good.
The GBIPboxClient had an option for accessing the remote HDD and a note I needed to enable Samba on the remote system to be able to access the drive. I wasn't sure if I needed this - or what for - but I enabled it anyway.
I couldn't find any interface option or plugin to access recordings on the Mut@nt, so I installed the DLNA Browser plugin. I tried to use the DLNA Browser to find recordings on the Mut@nt, but only some of these were visible. Anyway, I tried playing some of the STD, 720p, and 1080p recordings I could see listed. The STD recordings freeze after 4 minutes or so. The HD recordings freeze within 3-5 seconds. :-(
Then I installed OpenVIX, which is what the Mut@nt is also running and tried:
1. Using the GBIPboxClient, or uninstalling it and using the OpenVIX native client - the latter wanted the passwd to access ftp on the Mut@nt. Why is ftp access needed on the server?
2. I also tried DLNA Browser, same result.
3. I installed VLC and tried it, but the box crashed when I tried to select the Mut@nt as the server.
I tried with and without Samba running (just in case), but did not make any difference.
I looked at the processes running on the Octagon in case it was running out of RAM or something was amiss. I found a load average of 16.04, with some 10% of CPU taken up by:
/usr/bin/libreader 720P_50
Isn't that a tad too high? In contrast the Mut@nt shows only 0.18, while recording or on playback.
Is there some setting I need to change, or another plugin to try? Playing back recordings remotely is one of the main reasons I bought this box.
Perhaps you can spell out just what you are trying to do with this box, play services from the HD51, play recordings from the hd51 or what?
All new images one needs to setup a password on your box with remote control + write it down so you remember it.
Doing a network scan might pick up your box ip and does it open when you click on it and you see your hdd , click on that and mount it , if you need the password to go further enter that also.
Once everything is done and you exited out press your files button on remote and choose from which box ip you want to play from. Clicking on that should open up all recordings on that box to choose and play.
Perhaps you can spell out just what you are trying to do with this box, play services from the HD51, play recordings from the hd51 or what?
I want to watch live TV on the SX988 and also to playback recordings. The TV transmission is received from the Mut@nt fine either by enabling the Client Mode in the tuner settings on the SX988 when running OpenVIX, or by using the GBIPboxClient plugin when running OpenATV.
I am not sure how I can stream recordings from the Mut@nt. I tried using DLNA, but the playback stalls soon after it starts and many of the recordings in the Mut@nt folders are not even listed on the SX988.
What services do I need to install/enable on the Mut@nt and what plugins do I need to install/configure on the SX988?
All new images one needs to setup a password on your box with remote control + write it down so you remember it.
Already done over ssh.
Doing a network scan might pick up your box ip and does it open when you click on it and you see your hdd , click on that and mount it , if you need the password to go further enter that also.
Is this an NFS mount, Samba, access over ftp or sftp, or something else? What service should I have enabled on the server and what plugin or menu item should I be using on the client?
Once everything is done and you exited out press your files button on remote and choose from which box ip you want to play from. Clicking on that should open up all recordings on that box to choose and play.
The SX988 does not have a Files button. Only FAV, EPG and OPT. When I press OPT while running OpenVIX it crashes. :-(
Already done over ssh.
Is this an NFS mount, Samba, access over ftp or sftp, or something else? What service should I have enabled on the server and what plugin or menu item should I be using on the client?
The SX988 does not have a Files button. Only FAV, EPG and OPT. When I press OPT while running OpenVIX it crashes. :-(
"The SX988 does not have a Files button. Only FAV, EPG and OPT. When I press OPT while running OpenVIX it crashes. :-( " ---- post the crash log
Already done over ssh.
Is this an NFS mount, Samba, access over ftp or sftp, or something else? What service should I have enabled on the server and what plugin or menu item should I be using on the client?
The SX988 does not have a Files button. Only FAV, EPG and OPT. When I press OPT while running OpenVIX it crashes. :-(
Menu/setup/user interface/button setup --- choose remote key like red button long press then select show Movies
Thanks twol,
I've come to the conclusion that the remote handset shipped with this box is rather unsuitable for OpenVIX. Trying to setup/change functions for its buttons has been an exercise in frustration. Attempting to scroll down the list of buttons in the Buttons Setup menu is impossible if you press the down button on the remote, because it switches off to the next menu to allow you to select a function. I tried pressing Page Down, which brings me to the top of the next page on the list of buttons, but there is no single button press on the remote to allow me to go down this second page, without flipping over to the button functions page. Eventually, after some trial and error, I discovered if I press and hold the down button, it starts scrolling fast past the first page on the list. I managed to stop the cursor on the "List/FAV/PVR" on the second page after a few attempts without overshooting. The remote has a number of buttons for IPTV services, inc. a big fat red YouTube. None of these buttons are presented in the list of buttons in the setup menu, so I can't select them.
Anyway, I selected (repeatedly) the Info submenu function 'Show Movies' for the "List/FAV/PVR" button. The FAV button shows the list of Bouquets(TV), so I don't know which actual button on the remote was changed. I gave up and set the Right button to 'Show Movies'. This worked (phew!) but all it shows is the /media/hdd/movies/ directory on the SX988 client, which is empty.
I have configured the Tuner/Client on the SX988 adding the Mut@nt password for FTP and vsftpd is enabled and running on the Mut@nt. As it happens it is also running on the client. Neither Samba, nor NFS are enabled on the Mut@nt and since DLNA was not able to sustain playback for more than a few seconds/minutes, I stopped that too.
What service/protocol is SX988 meant to use to be able to access and stream recordings stored on the Mut@nt?
Crash log generated when I pressed 'OPT' button is attached.
Select show movies we’re I can’t find them
I’m having the same problem as u I have a vu ultimo and the vu remote any help on this mater would be apreshated thanks
I had some time this morning to take another look at this problem.
The solution to enable streaming of recorded programs requires for the /media/hdd/movie/ directory on the server to be exported as a NFS share on the LAN. On the server I had to install NFS, (Menu/Setup/Network/Utilities) then I also edited the file /etc/exports to specify the full path to /media/hdd/movie/ directory where recordings are stored on the Mut@nt and restarted the NFS service.
On the client I went to Setup/Network/Mount Setup and added a new network mount, specifying the IP address of the server, a local share name for the client (I called it "Recordings") and the full path for the exported NFS directory. This didn't work, until I added a double "//" at the beginning of the path; e.g. in my case: //media/hdd/movie/
Finally, I remapped the Fav button to 'Show Movies' as twol kindly suggested and I set up a Bookmark on the Movies list to point to /media/autofs/Recordings - this path was created when I added the NFS share to the client.
HTH,
PS. I suspect using Samba instead of NFS will also work, but since the the two STBs run Linux I chose NFS.
thank u very much I’ll give it a go I thought it would have been easer than what u sed regards deltec
TBH it may be simpler than what I make it out to be. Heh! Some remote controls may already have a more suitable combination of buttons, or they may respond more predictably to key presses. Also, some Enigma 2 flavours and themes will reveal more settings than others. I just find it easier to edit a couple of configuration files in a terminal, than fight endlessly with unintuitive GUIs.
If you get stuck ask and more learned contributors with similar gear to yours will hopefully chime in with suggestions, or I'll try and fill in the gaps.
this in my menu at the moment 65764 is this ehat u add on ur satllite e2 box do i9 do all what u sed on my dcc is that corect kind regards deltec
deltec,
You need to start from your Main Menu, by pressing the menu button on your remote when nothing else has been selected. Pressing the menu button when you are already in the Channel List brings up a submenu for options to configure your Channel List.
This thread is already quite long and addresses a number of questions. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve is directly relevant to the questions I was trying to answer. I think it would be best if you started a new thread, but be specific on what exactly you want to achieve.
Sorted regards deltec reflashed the image no ideal were I went rong regards deltec
Firestick / Android box with kodi and the enigma2 PVR client works really well, Live TV recording etc
Firestick / Android box with kodi and the enigma2 PVR client works really well, Live TV recording etc
This is my preferred route for multiroom TV as well. Problem is it is broken with the current Kodi 20.5 (and applicable E2 PVR).
Spent a few hours earlier today hacking a cheap android TV box to see if I could confirm what I saw with kodi on a windows 11 laptop yesterday. Uninstalled the Kodi app on the android box and then installed Kodi 19.5 to match the downgraded windows version (it was a pain to do). Same result, 19.5 works perfectly, 20.5 crashes when kodi starts the PVR.
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