Technomate Twin 4K help Please

[redman1]

Hello

As an older member of the forum, I hope there is someone with knowledge to help me please.

My box is not accepting any USB images when I boot. I have tried 5 different USB sticks, various brands, all formatted to Fat 32. I downloaded the image files from the download links in this forum. I have tried version

openvix-6.0.001.release-tmtwin4k_usb.zip
right upto openvix-6.0.007.release-tmtwin4k_usb.zip
But no matter which I use or how many times I hit the Standby button after turning on it bypasses the USB and eventually goes to "Moving to 28.2 E and the dish picture" . But nothing.. It looks like even the remote does nothing even with new batteries. IE it wont turn the receiver off.

Is the box dead? I hope I have not lost all of my recordings.

Is there any really helpful person here that can give me a way of recovering the box. That would be so great

Thanks for taking time to read my woes.

Kind Regards

[abu baniaz]

Box:
It's not dead. Just a software issue

Recordings:
Recordings are on HDD, so they are not lost. Unless you forma/initialise the drive

Remote:
Is the remote a multi-device remote and not in the receiver mode?
You can control the box using the openwebif remote. Put IP address of receiver on web browser, yo will get remote on left hand side of screen. If you don't know the IP address of receiver, you can check your router. Or try tmtwin4k.local


Flashing Image:
I note your comments about remote. Please see above about OWIF remote. Have you tried to flash the image using Image Manager.
You can also flash using command line using Grog's script
wget --no-check-certificate -O install_vix.sh https://www.dropbox.com/s/hc2cdr116lvx3dj/install_vix.sh?dl=1 && bash install_vix.sh

[adm]

But no matter which I use or how many times I hit the Standby button after turning on it bypasses the USB and eventually goes to "Moving to 28.2 E and the dish picture" . But nothing.. It looks like even the remote does nothing even with new batteries. IE it wont turn the receiver off.



Standby button on the remote or the standby button on the box. You need to press the standby (on/off) button on the box.

Try
Turn off at the mains switch for 2 minutes
Switch the box on via the mains switch
When the message appears on the TV screen press the standby button (on/off) button on the BOX

[Willo3092]

Try repartitioning and formatting your USB stick with BootIce (https://www.willobuild.net/files/Utilities/Preparing%20Flash%20Drives.zip), then follow the guide here https://www.openvix.co.uk/openvix-builds/Guides%20and%20Tutorials/Flashing%20Guides/Technomate%20USB%20Flashing%20Guides/How%20to%20flash%20a%20TM-Twin%204K.pdf

[redman1]

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Hello
Thanks for all of your help so far. I am still working on it all. I tried reformatting the USB with BootIce and then extracting to the USB. The box was turned off for 20 minutes so when I turned it on again I bypassed the USB again. I am using the original remote from Technomate.
I have no idea of the IP address of the box. I tried IPConfig on the pc but did not get far.

Thanks,

[Willo3092]

The box was turned off for 20 minutes so when I turned it on again I bypassed the USB again.

Thanks,

Are you pressing the standby button when the prompt appears on the TV screen?

[redman1]

Hello

I do not get a prompt on the screen so I tried pressing the Standby button as soon as I turn it on but no prompt is shown. Even using different USB sticks.

[abu baniaz]

If you are not getting a prompt, it is not detecting the image on USB stick. Can you pots a screenshot of the files on your USB stick please?

[redman1]

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Here is the files on the USB

Thanks

[abu baniaz]

One level above please. Should be an "update" folder
Also two levels above. i.e should be update/tmtwin4k

[ccs]

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Here is the files on the USB

Thanks

The only folder on the usb stick should be update, in there a folder called tmtwin4k, and in there the files you've posted.

[redman1]

Here are other screens you requested.

Thanks 6336963370

Kind regards

[abu baniaz]

OK, that seems fine. Can we try flashing it using Image manager/putty please?

Do you know the IP address of the box? Put that in your web browser. If you don't know it, try tmtwin4k.local

[redman1]

Sorry I don't know the IP address of the box. I tried to get into the router (Virgin) but the password is being rejected, even after I reset the box.

How do I do "try tmtwin4k.local"

Thanks

[abu baniaz]

Use that (tmtwin4k.local) in the web browser as the address/url

If I remember correctly, the new Virgin routers asks you to set a new password after you reset it. But let's leave that for now.

[redman1]

I feel terrible wasting your time. But thanks for trying to help

I put tmtwin4k.local into the browser but it just suggests boxes I can buy....

[ronand]

Download angry ip scanner on your pc and scan your lan - it should pick up the tm

https://angryip.org/

[redman1]

I have a copy of my original files from 2017, openvix-5.0.003.release-tmtwin4k_usb

Should I try that maybe?

thanks

[abu baniaz]

You are not wasting time. Actually a pleasure helping you unlike some other people who are like getting blood out of a stone.

Please try Ronand's suggestion and see if you find the IP address first.

[redman1]

Im getting somewhere

Angryip got me the Ip address of the box.

I used software called eSettings+ to talk to the box. I opened the box with this software,

Have you knowledge of this software or is there anything else you can advise.

I have never used Image manager/putty

So far the help is amazing. Thank you.

[ccs]

http://tmtwin4k.local should at least try to access the box, rather than a google search.

[abu baniaz]

Put the IP address of the box in your web browser, you will see the remote on left hand side.

Then press
Blue > Vix > Image Manager >

Download an image, then flash it. Look at bottom of screen of TV or screenshot in Openwebif, it will tell you what the buttons do

[redman1]

Getting more now

Here is what you suggested63371

Kind regards

[redman1]

Ok.

I am a bit lost now I have OpenWebif . I don't know how to flash the image I downloaded.

thanks

[ccs]

While still in Image manager, highlight the image you've downloaded (if it isn't highlighted already) and then press blue to flash.

It will then ask you to confirm.

[abu baniaz]

Have you seen post 22? we posted at same time

Blue > Vix > Image Manager

Download an image. Once you download it, flash it. If you get stuck, post a screenshot of where you are stuck.

[redman1]

I must be old and lost now.

I cannot do anything on the box as its locked. Not sure I can press the blue button in OpenWebif. on my pc,

Now I hold down the control key on pc and blue button on Webif and I have this screen63372

[ccs]

Press exit on the openwebif remote a few times and see where it gets you to.

[abu baniaz]

We are presuming you are running Vix (it should be based on the skin). Please get a screenshot of
Menu > Information > About

[redman1]

Here is the box info63373

[abu baniaz]

You are taking pictures from OWIF, I was hoping to see the on on the TV. Not to bother, you are on Openvix 5.0 032.

Press exit several times on remote. There should be no menus showing on TV. Press the blue button on remote (OWIF or physical) . Take a screenshot of what is shown and upload it please.

[redman1]

Here is settings screenshot from software eSettings+ I can talk to the box with this software.6337463375

[redman1]

Hello

Here is the tv picture. The remote does nothing. I am pressing the exit button, the red off button and nothing is working.63376

[abu baniaz]

Your picture is while in Plugin browser.

Lets try
Menu > Setup > Vix

[redman1]

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Here is what i see when on pc and press Ctrl and blue button

[abu baniaz]

Select the Vix option, then Image Manager

[abu baniaz]

You should see something like the attached picture.

Info:
Your last screenshot was not very clear. The last option for screenshot option in OWIF on right is just the OSD and is a lot clearer.

[redman1]

Ok

Here is that screen63381

[abu baniaz]

Press Yellow and download the latest Vix image. 6.0 007

[ccs]

...... deleted.

[redman1]

Another try63382

[ronand]

You seem to be using a 128Gb USB stick. For usb flashing its advisable to use a much smaller one (8Gb or less). That is probably the reason that the USB flashing is failing (its formatted as exfat not fat32 and the box cant read it).

[abu baniaz]

Another try

What happens when you press the yellow button.

It seems you have to press Ctrl before it acknowledges the click. I've never had to.

@ronand, we are trying to flash by ImageManger now. Can we leave the USB stick size for another session?

[redman1]

When I press the yellow button it is blank 63383

[redman1]

I have a 8gb stick make is Lexar

[ccs]

@CCS, we are trying to flash by ImageManger now. Can we leave the USB stick size for another session?

Don't blame me. :p

[redman1]

You were right. I do not have to use the ctrl button

[abu baniaz]

There was a server change a long time ago, so your box cannot connect.

There are several options available now. Of the two below, which do you want to use.
1. FTP the zipped image you downloaded to /media/hdd/imagebackups
2. Flash by command line using Putty. ( Guide to Putty in my signature)

[redman1]

Hello

I am in the box with eSettings+

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[abu baniaz]

A channel editor won't work. Does Esetting+ allow you to transfer files?

You have to transfer the downloaded image (no need to unzip) to /media/hdd/imagebackups You will then be able to flash it. You can use FTP client like Filezilla
Or you can flash it using Grog's script. Issue that with any terminal client like Putty. Follow the guide in my signature. You seem quite competent and should be able to do it.

Do you want me to do this over teamviewer? If so, PM me your teamviewer details

[redman1]

Hello

I transferred the image file to the box , see picture.63385

[redman1]

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In webif the files are in the box

[abu baniaz]

Menu > Setup > Vix > Image manager

Highlight the image you want to flash using remote keys

Blue to flash/restore

[abu baniaz]

OK, I see the blue button does not do anything.

In esetting+, click on telnet, once connected, paste the following command



wget --no-check-certificate -O install_vix.sh https://www.dropbox.com/s/hc2cdr116l...ll_vix.sh?dl=1 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/hc2cdr116lvx3dj/install_vix.sh?dl=1) && bash install_vix.sh

[redman1]

I pressed the blue button on the new image file and nothing happened?

[ronand]

Try pressing OK instead

[ccs]

OK, I see the blue button does not do anything..

The OK button should work (rather than blue), if it's not too late.

[abu baniaz]

See post 54 please.

[redman1]

in eSetting+ i can access the box with FTP player but not Telenet

[abu baniaz]

Try Putty. Guide in my signature. ( Linux commands)

Edit:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?40948-How-to-use-Putty-for-Unix-Linux-commands

[redman1]

OK

I downloaded and installed putty

I clicked telenet and put in ip address of the box
it asks for login as:

[abu baniaz]

The same as you were using in esetting+

root
no password unless you set one

[redman1]

I didn't set a password as far as i know.63387

[abu baniaz]

You are logged in. Please paste the command I posted.

[redman1]

I pasted your command and it asks for a password

[redman1]

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it seems to not connect

[abu baniaz]

One sec, I have Grog to check his script.

[redman1]

I'm probably way off mark

But in webif what happens if I press factory reset?63390

[abu baniaz]

While we await grog's script, unzip the image file and transfer to the USB/HDD. Then issue the following command

As an example:



ofgwrite -r -k /media/hdd/update/tmtwin4k

[abu baniaz]

This should work


wget --no-check-certificate -O installvix.sh https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/hc2cdr116lvx3dj/install_vix.sh && bash installvix.sh

[abu baniaz]

I'm probably way off mark

But in webif what happens if I press factory reset?

I thought we were trying to flash an image

You can use the remote on OWIF to control box to perform a factory reset. But that version of factory reset does not do much. You will still have an image that is 4+ years old. I know old is gold and all that. But we have been this for a while now, might as well as see it through.

If your remote is broken and not controlling the box, you will have to use the OWIF remote to set it up/control it. There are apps on phone to duplicate remote too.

[redman1]

Hello

Thanks for all of your never ending help

It does not look like we can fix today so maybe we should leave it.

Im also getting a security message from putty.

So shall we leave until another time?

Thanks for bearing with me63391

[abu baniaz]

Not sure why you are getting that. Did you get it from the link in my guide?


https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html


Altrenatively, enable telnet client in windows and use that if you want. You would then issue following command at prompt



telnet 192.xxx.xx.x.


Anyway, here is another option

Menu > Setup > Vix > Scriptrunner > exit (This is so it creates the required folder)

Unzip this file. Transfer this file to "usr/script" might be "usr/scripts"
chmod 755, (right click and properties)

Menu > Setup > Vix > Scriptrunner
Then select the script

We have a few options on the go. Not really what I like to do as I prefer exhausting one at a time.

[BrokenUnusableAccount]

Hello

Thanks for all of your never ending help

It does not look like we can fix today so maybe we should leave it.

Im also getting a security message from putty.

So shall we leave until another time?

Thanks for bearing with me63391

That message is fairly normal, just click [Accept]

[redman1]

Hello

Thanks to all the support I received yesterday. I learned so many things I did not know before. OpenWebif , Angryip and Started to be shown Putty.

It just shows what a great support this Forum has, and the patience with those who helped .

Can We continue if someone is there again.

I have issues again, even though my tv has a satellite picture and the Remote control is working now.

Thanks one and all

[redman1]

I cannot get Openwebif to run on my PC I typed http://tmtwin4k.local into the address bar and it fails every time63394

[abu baniaz]

Maybe your router is not resolving the hostname. Just enter the IP address of receiver.

What problem are you having?
Have you flashed 6.0 007 yet?

[redman1]

Hello again . You have been amazing with your help.

I cannot thank you enough.

I have a big problem

As I mentioned, the box is working on the tv and I get a picture. BUT now it has OpenPLI installed.!!! How did that happen?

[abu baniaz]

I don't know. They don't flash themselves. Did you have a USB stick in the receiver with the 4D/pli image?

Can you press select Menu > Information > About and take a screenshot/clear picture and uplaod it.

Do you want to flash Vix on it?

[redman1]

I had a USB in the box but it was the Vix 6.00.7 on the USB
Yes I want Vix to be the image on the box.

Is it possible to do it over PLI?

[redman1]

Here is Information picture63395

[abu baniaz]

Best you check the USB sticks for any images on them to be safe.

Ftp the vix image (still zipped) to the root of the hdd. i.e not in a folder. Then
Menu > Setup > Flash image > Downloaded image
The vix image should be there and you can flash it.

[redman1]

Hello

Please see picture

Thanks63396

[abu baniaz]

Yes, that is correct location.

[redman1]

Ok

It is in the HDD - media/hdd directory63397

[abu baniaz]

Pleas flash it as per rest of instructions in post 82. Please post a screenshot/clear picture if there is a problem

Menu > Setup > Flash image > Downloaded image

It should look similar to the attached screenshot. You will have to account for ~3 years of changes and the fact you are not using an official PLi image

[redman1]

Hello

Menu > setup > flash image is not on the box.63399

I have this under software management

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[abu baniaz]

Flash online

[ccs]

Hopefully, I might learn something here. :)

[redman1]

Sorry

Bear with me please

[abu baniaz]

Hopefully, I might learn something here. :)
It is just an invocation of ofgwrite. He also has Dimitrij's automatic full backup installed which can be used to flash as well as the command line method we suggested yesterday.

I am going out until about 20:00, so hopefully he will be done by then.

[redman1]

Hello

First I could not find the file So I FTP the unzipped file into the Images directory. As you can see, there is the OpenPLI image there.

I flashed and now there is Openvix on the box.

There is another message. See picture.634026340163403

[redman1]

So it seems I had to put the unzipped file across by FTP into the image directory??

Well it somehow has worked.63404

[redman1]

All I need to do now is to find how to get the movable dish satellite info into the box.

Then the other thing maybe I'm not allowed to discuss?

Thanks all again. Amazing that me, an old un got it done..

[abu baniaz]

For a motorised satellite dish aligned for USALS, you configure the tuner as:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?65028-Missing-some-satellites-after-moving-house&p=522439&viewfull=1#post522439

Make sure you set a password on your receiver, otherwise you won't be able to FTP:
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?62552-FTP-Password-now-required

Install your softcam from the plugin menu
Transfer/edit your softcam config, start the softcam to decrypt the card in your box. That is as much as we are allowed to assist with that topic

[redman1]

Hello, It's me again with yet more issues.

I feel like my box is never going to get sorted as to how it used to be before the storms. That's when I lost the access to the box I'm guessing.

I cannot FTP to the box. It is saying the password of "root" is incorrect. How can this have changed??

Any help on top of the amazing previous help will be appreciated.63406

[redman1]

I also noticed there was a change root password option in the system menu. But when I clicked that the system crashes as can be seen63407 Sorry it's not a clear picture.

[redman1]

PS. I have not changed any password myself.

[abu baniaz]

Info: You don't need to insert your pictures inline.

Did you install a plugin to set the password? Was anything wrong with the guide that I posted a link to in post 95? I shall paste it below again.

https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?62552-FTP-Password-now-required

[abu baniaz]

Yes, there is a plugin installed. Please uninstall it, there is no need for it.


https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/blob/master/setpasswd/src/plugin.py#L82




< 173.2605> 00:51:31.2379 [ActionMap] Keymap 'OkCancelActions' -> Action = 'ok'.
< 173.2674> 00:51:31.2448 Traceback (most recent call last):
< 173.2675> 00:51:31.2449 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Components/ActionMap.py", line 60, in action
< 173.2686> 00:51:31.2460 res = self.actions[action]()
< 173.2687> 00:51:31.2461 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Screens/Menu.py", line 86, in okbuttonClick
< 173.2697> 00:51:31.2471 selection[1]()
< 173.2698> 00:51:31.2471 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Tools/BoundFunction.py", line 10, in __call__
< 173.2703> 00:51:31.2477 return self.fnc(*self.args + args, **newkwargs)
< 173.2704> 00:51:31.2478 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/SetPasswd/plugin.py", line 138, in main
< 173.2708> 00:51:31.2482 session.open(ChangePasswdScreen)
< 173.2708> 00:51:31.2482 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/StartEnigma.py", line 342, in open
< 173.2715> 00:51:31.2489 dlg = self.current_dialog = self.instantiateDialog(screen, *arguments, **kwargs)
< 173.2715> 00:51:31.2489 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/StartEnigma.py", line 279, in instantiateDialog
< 173.2721> 00:51:31.2495 return self.doInstantiateDialog(screen, arguments, kwargs, self.desktop)
< 173.2722> 00:51:31.2496 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/StartEnigma.py", line 302, in doInstantiateDialog
< 173.2729> 00:51:31.2502 dlg = screen(self, *arguments, **kwargs)
< 173.2729> 00:51:31.2503 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/SetPasswd/plugin.py", line 70, in __init__
< 173.2734> 00:51:31.2508 self.buildList(self.GeneratePassword())
< 173.2735> 00:51:31.2508 File "/usr/lib/enigma2/python/Plugins/SystemPlugins/SetPasswd/plugin.py", line 82, in GeneratePassword
< 173.2738> 00:51:31.2512 passwdChars = string.letters + string.digits
< 173.2739> 00:51:31.2513 AttributeError: module 'string' has no attribute 'letters'
< 173.2740> 00:51:31.2514 [ePyObject] (CallObject(<bound method ActionMap.action of <Components.ActionMap.HelpableActionMap object at 0xb09d5988>>,('OkCancelActions', 'ok')) failed)


Edit:
Fixed here for next image:
https://github.com/oe-alliance/enigma2-plugins/commit/8c45e12b8918f700b6c1c2f46797f0c3fa29cbcf

[redman1]

Hello

In my haste I missed your information on post 95. I read it again and have applied the password.

Thanks

[redman1]

I have a working box so I am so grateful to all who gave their time and help

There is one last step but not allowed to discuss, so I don't know how to go with that. Is there any way for help on this matter? I have config file, FTP to the box, but in Oscam Webinterface/Files/ oscam.conf it says "File does not exist or no file selected!"

Please delete if not allowed.

Kind Regards

[redman1]

It's working!!!!

After a few failures with the final step the box is working now so I had a great night of viewing.

It just goes to show that even us old uns can learn with the brilliant help from members of this forum. I have maybe taken too much of their time and asked so many things, but in the end what I thought was a dead box is back in service and working perfectly.

I can only say what I mentioned before. Thanks so much for your help and guidance. I have such praise for the forum guys and can only express that it's a great result.

Thanks one and all.

[abu baniaz]

Good work! Don't wait 4 years for the next image install.

:)