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Have just bought this receiver and have plugged both feeds into a sky dish with 4 outputs.
After adding a few recordings to try it out i noticed i was getting a clash when 4 recordings were overlapping.
Am i right in thinking i need to replace the current LNB for a unicable one to sort this out?
My head is saying yes but thought id ask here to be certain before i buy one to replace the current LNB.
Thanks
abu baniaz
03-02-22, 03:06
You are correct. Don't forget the difference in collar size means you will have to get an adapter.
thanks so much. Im aware of the adapters for sky dishes but might just upgrade the LNB on my motorised dish instead.
Thanks for the fast reply abu baniaz
thanks so much. Im aware of the adapters for sky dishes but might just upgrade the LNB on my motorised dish instead.
Thanks for the fast reply abu baniaz
Don't put a Unicable LNB on a motorised dish. This is explained in the Unicable sticky.
https://www.world-of-satellite.com/showthread.php?57507-Unicable-LNBs-and-motorised-dishes
So I think I have a similar issue.
I can stream 8+ channels on at least 4 different bands. But each time I start one it glitches the others, sometimes it causes enough downtime for VLC to reconnect.
Once they all connected its fine though and they run perfect for good.
The issue I have is I use SmartOne IPTV on Samsung TV's across 3 different houses on the property, each property has 3 TV's so total 9 TV's.
If someone starts a stream it has the ability to affect the stream from another TV when then the user has to restart which causes a repeat issue between those two people.
So im wondering is this an LNB issue or a gigablue issue.
The fact I see the glitch on VLC streams I know its no the Samsung TV's fault, just how they are reactivating to the issue.
Add: I have single dish running off Optus D1, all 4 tuners are wired to the same LNB connection via a splitter.
So I think I have a similar issue.
I can stream 8+ channels on at least 4 different bands. But each time I start one it glitches the others, sometimes it causes enough downtime for VLC to reconnect.
Once they all connected its fine though and they run perfect for good.
The issue I have is I use SmartOne IPTV on Samsung TV's across 3 different houses on the property, each property has 3 TV's so total 9 TV's.
If someone starts a stream it has the ability to affect the stream from another TV when then the user has to restart which causes a repeat issue between those two people.
So im wondering is this an LNB issue or a gigablue issue.
The fact I see the glitch on VLC streams I know its no the Samsung TV's fault, just how they are reactivating to the issue.
Add: I have single dish running off Optus D1, all 4 tuners are wired to the same LNB connection via a splitter.
so give us some information about the config - connected to ?
FBC tuner or plugin DVB-S2x
LNB type???
connections & E2 tuner config
Sorry, I didn't get a notification there was a reply here, so ill try keep this window open the next few days and refresh.
Box
Brand & Model: GigaBlue UHD QUAD 4K
Chipset: Broadcom 7252s
Main memory: 694988 kB free / 906140 kB total
Box uptime: 23d 15:47
Software
System OE: OE-Alliance 4.4
Firmware version: teamblue 6.4.0 (2022-06-07)
Kernel / Drivers: 4.1.20 / 20200723
Tuner A DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner B DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner C DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner D DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner E DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner F DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner G DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner H DVB-S2X NIM(45308X FBC) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner I GIGA DVB-S2X NIM (TS3L10) (DVB-S2X)
Tuner J GIGA DVB-S2X NIM (TS3L10) (DVB-S2X)
LNB is just a default sky New Zealand dish and LNB (10750)
LNB has single cable going into amplifier with 4 outputs that plug into the gigablue (https://cdlnz.com/10MM-DDA24)
Settings on the tuners as per screenshot, same for all 4 tuners, I have also tried doing loop, or same as tuner X, etc
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@bmurphy
1. you will not get an alert for updates to this thread.
2. you are using Teamblue, which is based on OpenPli (and therefore python 2) and only gets updates about every month to their Git (I have no idea about image updates) … so I am guessing not regularly updated with changes and fixes.
3. As you have a multiboot receiver, I would suggest that you flash online (through the Teamblue flashonline software) another slot with OpenViX, so that we have direct knowledge of your issues in terms of helping with issues.( you will have to download the unzipped image from above and copy to the HDD, where it should find the image - OpenViX provides direct downloads for other main image providers. Its then easy to switch between images for testing and checkout without losing your main setup.
OpenViX uses the same configuration setup for tuners as OpenPli/Teamblue (unlike others) so that part should be straight forward.
Its not obvious to me how you have physically configured inputs A & B on the FBC tuner and how tuners A thru H are configured in E2, perhaps you can post a few more images??
Thanks, I just came back as I had closed the window :P
I was testing today but enigma froze when I tried to stream with transcoding to see if that would help.
I tried to issue a reboot and the physical box didn't come back so I need to reboot it manually.
Its currently locked in a cupboard and we have guests in the house, but I am getting access tomorrow to do so.
I have a USB plugged into it so will try flash OpenViX as you suggest and get it all setup.
I have a Unicable II I was unsuccessful in getting working, so its sitting in the cupboard; if all else fails I have a 4hr window on Sunday I can try install it, or roll back to the Sky LNB.
I was tailing the debug log when it crashed and have put it here https://pastebin.com/qSwwX31p
It may point to part of the problem but im not sure.
I was streaming 4 channels at the time and one of them I was switching between channels.
I dont have anything plugged into HDMI, the box soul purpose is to be in a. cupboard and I am using VLC (for testing) and SmartOne-IPTV clients on my Samsung TV's to stream in house.
When I scroll through channels it causes glitches on other channels (streaming), sometimes for 1-5 seconds and then sometimes I lose video and retain audio, not sure if its because of a horizontal/veritical change, or LNB frequency change or what
LNB settings I screenshotted before, I have tried Tuner A on those settings then all other cards "copy from tuner A".
I have also tried doing it by setting all tuners to that same config and had a cable plugged into each tuner (A,B, I & J)
FBC is just on automatic on tuners C,D,E,F,G,H
So Sky New Zealand LNB is to tune just channels on Optus D1 on horizontal high band. That means all channels are on the same sub-band and all users can connect to a single output from the LNB via a splitter.
Your config looks correct except "Voltage mode" should be "18V" and "Tone Mode", "off".
In theory you should be able to connect the dish cable to the first tuner and loop to the rest, i.e. B = Loopthrough, C-H = Automatic. If for some reason this won't work with a user defined L.O. you could try a Universal LNB.
Thanks, I will try this when I get access to reboot the box.
So Freeview may be on a different band but same satellite, do you mind checking if this would cause issue with channel swapping?
ts TV One, Tv Three, Parliament TV etc.
Lastly, as mentioned prior, I have my satalite going into this splitter https://cdlnz.com/10MM-DDA24 which is powered, so I assume is already powering the sat with the voltage.
From the splitter, it fans out 4 outputs, 3 of them go to individual TV's that have Freeview tuned in (see screenshot of what the TV installer set for all the TV's).
Note the TV installer still set the "Power" button on for the satalite even though he knew there was a powered splitter.
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Then the last 4th output from the powered splitter I connect to non powered splitter similar to this (https://www.jaycar.co.nz/kingray-4-way-foxtel-approved-splitter/p/LT3071) that then goes into the 4 tuners in the GigaBlue.
As you mention, I shouldn't need a antenna cable going to each tuner, so I will try change the setting to all use Tuner A; is it ok to leave the cables plugged into the other tuners or would This cause issue; I only ask because the property is 4hrs away and would prefer to leave them in for testing if at all possible.
cheers
So I did as suggested and enabled Tuner A and looped tuner B to tuner A
I disabled Tuner I & J for testing.
Still getting stops on streams when someone changes the channel.
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This is what VLC says when stuff gets all choppy
[h264 @ 0x7ff382890200] error while decoding MB 15 36, bytestream 4901
[h264 @ 0x7ff382971000] Reference 2 >= 2
[h264 @ 0x7ff382971000] error while decoding MB 4 9, bytestream 5725
[h264 @ 0x7ff382883200] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff382883200] Missing reference picture, default is 68901
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] Missing reference picture, default is 68908
[h264 @ 0x7ff382875c00] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff382875c00] Missing reference picture, default is 68916
[h264 @ 0x7ff382920400] mmco: unref short failure
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] left block unavailable for requested intra mode
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] error while decoding MB 0 40, bytestream 11352
[h264 @ 0x7ff382971000] decode_slice_header error
[h264 @ 0x7ff382883200] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff382883200] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff382883200] Missing reference picture, default is 69413
[h264 @ 0x7ff382883200] Missing reference picture, default is 69413
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] Missing reference picture, default is 69428
[h264 @ 0x7ff3828d3800] Missing reference picture, default is 69428
[h264 @ 0x7ff382890200] reference picture missing during reorder
[h264 @ 0x7ff382890200] Missing reference picture, default is 69436
[h264 @ 0x7ff382875c00] mmco: unref short failure
I tried running enigma in debug mode and it actually wouldn't work at first, I later found I had to kill all the TV's trying to stream as if you try initiate a stream before the gigablue has finished its boot sequence it breaks and then you have to restart enigma.
Nothing stands out in debug mode, just lots of
[eFilePushThreadRecorder] read got interrupted by signal, stop: 0
[eFilePushThreadRecorder] read got interrupted by signal, stop: 0
[eFilePushThreadRecorder] read got interrupted by signal, stop: 0
And
[eMPEGStreamParserTS] broken startcode
[eMPEGStreamParserTS] broken startcode
[eMPEGStreamParserTS] broken startcode
[eMPEGStreamParserTS] broken startcode
[eMPEGStreamParserTS] broken startcode
[eMPEGStreamParserTS] broken startcode
Big all blacks rugby match against Ireland tonight I want to watch with friends, so will try load new software tomorrow
Just tried the Unicable II and I dont get any signal at all :/
root@gbquad4k:~# cat /etc/enigma2/settings | grep config.Nims
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lofh=10750
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.lofl=10750
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.threshold=10750
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= Inverto
config.Nims.0.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=IDLU-32UL40-UNBOO-OPP
config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.1600.tonemode=off
config.Nims.0.advanced.sat.1600.voltage=18V
config.Nims.0.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.0.configMode=advanced
config.Nims.0.diseqcA=1600
config.Nims.0.diseqcB=1600
config.Nims.0.diseqcC=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcD=3601
config.Nims.0.diseqcMode=single
config.Nims.0.powerMeasurement=false
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.lof=user_defined
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.lofh=10750
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.lofl=10750
config.Nims.1.advanced.lnb.1.threshold=10750
config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.1.advanced.sat.1600.tonemode=on
config.Nims.1.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.1.configMode=nothing
config.Nims.1.diseqcA=1600
config.Nims.1.diseqcB=3601
config.Nims.1.diseqcC=3601
config.Nims.1.diseqcD=3601
config.Nims.1.diseqcMode=single
config.Nims.1.powerMeasurement=false
config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= Dura-Sat(DUR-line)
config.Nims.2.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Unica ble LNB
config.Nims.2.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.2.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.2.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= Dura-Sat(DUR-line)
config.Nims.3.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Unica ble LNB
config.Nims.3.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.3.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.3.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= Dura-Sat(DUR-line)
config.Nims.4.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Unica ble LNB
config.Nims.4.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.4.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.4.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= Dura-Sat(DUR-line)
config.Nims.5.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Unica ble LNB
config.Nims.5.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.5.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.5.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.5.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=0
config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= Dura-Sat(DUR-line)
config.Nims.6.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Unica ble LNB
config.Nims.6.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.6.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.6.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.6.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=0
config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.lof=unicable
config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.scrList=1
config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.unicableManufacturer= Dura-Sat(DUR-line)
config.Nims.7.advanced.lnb.1.unicableProduct=Unica ble LNB
config.Nims.7.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.7.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.7.advanced.unicableconnected=true
config.Nims.7.advanced.unicableconnectedTo=0
config.Nims.8.advanced.lnb.3.lof=user_defined
config.Nims.8.advanced.lnb.3.lofh=10750
config.Nims.8.advanced.lnb.3.lofl=10750
config.Nims.8.advanced.lnb.3.prio=3
config.Nims.8.advanced.lnb.3.threshold=10750
config.Nims.8.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=3
config.Nims.8.advanced.sat.1600.tonemode=on
config.Nims.8.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.8.configMode=nothing
config.Nims.8.diseqcA=1600
config.Nims.8.diseqcMode=single
config.Nims.9.advanced.lnb.1.lof=user_defined
config.Nims.9.advanced.lnb.1.lofh=10750
config.Nims.9.advanced.lnb.1.lofl=10750
config.Nims.9.advanced.lnb.1.threshold=10750
config.Nims.9.advanced.sat.1600.lnb=1
config.Nims.9.advanced.sat.1600.tonemode=on
config.Nims.9.advanced.sat.1600.voltage=0V
config.Nims.9.advanced.sats=1600
config.Nims.9.configMode=nothing
config.Nims.9.diseqcA=1600
config.Nims.9.diseqcB=3601
config.Nims.9.diseqcC=3601
config.Nims.9.diseqcD=3601
config.Nims.9.diseqcMode=single
config.Nims.9.powerMeasurement=false
Managed to install latest OpenViX 6.2.007 (2022-07-14)
I used Generic LNB and when scanning I only find 57 channels found during scan
When I change to user defined 10750 / 10750 / 10750 I get all channels (212 channels)
Couldn't get the unicable working, this is the generic LNB on my sky disk
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Originally I had the last 2 tuners disabled for testing, but have also tried enabling them and saying Equal config to tuner A (and they have cables plugged in to the Sat).
Still having the issue where if a new stream starts, it causes issues with an existing stream, either glitching it for 5-10 seconds, or killing it all together, or not allowing the new stream to start.
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You need to connect the LNB direct to the receiver, no splitter, so you can discover if it is the LNB or splitter causing the problem.
Ok, dont know why I didn't try before, the issue doesnt appear to be a streaming issue, or tuner issue, or LNB issue.
I'm currently streaming 9 channels over 4 tuners and no glitches what so ever.
7 free channels, and 2 paid channels (Sky).
I now believe my issue is the CCcam perhaps not being able to decode more than 2-3 channels at once.
Or when I start streaming a new encrypted channel, it causes glitch to existing streamed channels.
Is there a limitation to how many channels CCcam can process? I know this thread has now taken a completely off topic path, so perhaps I should create a new thread?
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Everything working great, changes from CCcam to OSCam
Cool, glad you found it.
Also, try changing skin to "Simple_Ten_Eighty". Menu > Setup > User Interface > Skin Setup.
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