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piro.lito
06-01-22, 00:18
Hello guys,

i'm almost finish building my house, so i need help to decide the best approach for my setup.

I will have 2 antennas with 1 lnb each and i want to feed my house panel that will distribute the signal for 6 rooms.
I will have:
- main panel where i can inject the signal for all rooms
- 6 dvb-s2 receivers (each room)
- just watch channels (no stream or recording)

I thought of 2 LNB quattro connected to a 9/8 multiswitch and then feed each cable that goes to the rooms.
What do you think guys?

Thanks
Huevos
06-01-22, 13:47
Or does the same with Unicable multiswitch and single cable to each room can be used by multiple tuners if necessary.
Huevos
06-01-22, 13:48
Or does the same with Unicable multiswitch and single cable to each room can be used by multiple tuners if necessary.
piro.lito
06-01-22, 14:15
@huevos

So what your are saying is to use lnb unicable and connect them to unicable multi switch?

Them in the receivers I need to use always different SCr frequencies in all of them?
twol
06-01-22, 20:34
@huevos

So what your are saying is to use lnb unicable and connect them to unicable multi switch?

Them in the receivers I need to use always different SCr frequencies in all of them?
Yes - each must have own frequency
Huevos
06-01-22, 22:08
@huevos

So what your are saying is to use lnb unicable and connect them to unicable multi switch? No, quattro lnbs and unicable multiswitch.
piro.lito
06-01-22, 23:33
No, quattro lnbs and unicable multiswitch.

Can you explain a bit better to a newbie how does it work?
Didn’t know that Quattro lnbs could be connected to unicable multi switch.
Do I need to program anything?
And then after that how many cables go from the multi switch to my house?

So, lnb like this
https://www.inverto.tv/lnb/263/quattro-hgln-40mm-lnb

Can you point out a multi switch for this setup?

Thanks
Huevos
07-01-22, 03:07
Can you explain a bit better to a newbie how does it work?
Didn’t know that Quattro lnbs could be connected to unicable multi switch.
Do I need to program anything?
And then after that how many cables go from the multi switch to my house?

So, lnb like this
https://www.inverto.tv/lnb/263/quattro-hgln-40mm-lnb

Can you point out a multi switch for this setup?

ThanksQuattro LNBs are used for pretty much all multiswitches.
Switch would have 8 satellite inputs (4 from each LNB), 1 terrestrial input, and one output.

I'll leave it up to others to recommend switches.
piro.lito
07-01-22, 20:06
Hi @huevos,
I thought that i could have something like:

63172

And then, something like Advanced Configuration in the Tuner and:

-Box 1
Sat 1 -> LNB 1 -> Type SCR -> Freq 1
Sat 2 -> LNB 2 -> Type SCR -> Freq 2

-Box 2
Sat 1 -> LNB 1 -> Type SCR -> Freq 3
Sat 2 -> LNB 2 -> Type SCR -> Freq 4

-Box 3
Sat 1 -> LNB 1 -> Type SCR -> Freq 5
Sat 2 -> LNB 2 -> Type SCR -> Freq 6

-Box 4
Sat 1 -> LNB 1 -> Type SCR -> Freq 7
Sat 2 -> LNB 2 -> Type SCR -> Freq 8


IS this even possible?
abu baniaz
07-01-22, 20:12
You can use a combiner with programmable Unicable LNB/switches. You will need to program them. The programmers are over £100. There is an entry in the setup which has "position", you set it to what you program the unicabel device.

Do you know where you can get Unicable Combiners? I'd like to know.
piro.lito
07-01-22, 20:19
You can use a combiner with programmable Unicable LNB/switches. You will need to program them. The programmers are over £100. There is an entry in the setup which has "position", you set it to what you program the unicabel device.

Do you know where you can get Unicable Combiners? I'd like to know.

Jeeezzz it's expansive.
the programmer i believe is this, right? https://tinyurl.com/2p8pwu6w

I would like to avoid cables... but would it be simplier if go with Quattro LNB's even if i have to run 8 cables inside the house?
The configuration will be easier?

Thanks
twol
07-01-22, 21:18
To be honest, my original setup was quattro lnb‘s into a multiswitch (most will now take quattro or quad) and I only changed to Unicable multiswitches because of my gbquad4k( with fbc tuner) - but it was a really expensive transition. The real benefit has been a move from a spiders web of cables to something more controlled - even my wife is happier
piro.lito
07-01-22, 21:36
To be honest, my original setup was quattro lnb‘s into a multiswitch (most will now take quattro or quad) and I only changed to Unicable multiswitches because of my gbquad4k( with fbc tuner) - but it was a really expensive transition. The real benefit has been a move from a spiders web of cables to something more controlled - even my wife is happier
But it will be good for having less cables.
Can you explain me how would be the connection from 2 sats with quatros to unicable multi switch and then to the receivers?
Thanks
twol
07-01-22, 21:48
But it will be good for having less cables.
Can you explain me how would be the connection from 2 sats with quatros to unicable multi switch and then to the receivers?
Thanks

My current setup has 2 quattro lnbs (28.2E, 19.2E) running to 2 unicable switches(Spaun & DUR-line) on a external wall and then single cables run about 20 metres to either my lounge receiver or a small room with splitters to the other receivers). … but not a cheap setup.
There is also a 27.5W lnb with a cable running into the house alongside the 2 switches and then split 2 ways.
piro.lito
07-01-22, 21:58
My current setup has 2 quattro lnbs (28.2E, 19.2E) running to 2 unicable switches(Spaun & DUR-line) on a external wall and then single cables run about 20 metres to either my lounge receiver or a small room with splitters to the other receivers). … but not a cheap setup.
There is also a 27.5W lnb with a cable running into the house alongside the 2 switches and then split 2 ways.

So, let me see if I understood.
You run each Quattro to a unicable switch and then the two cables run to one receiver?

Do you connect both cables to a dual fbc tuner?
twol
07-01-22, 22:38
So, let me see if I understood.
You run each Quattro to a unicable switch and then the two cables run to one receiver?

Do you connect both cables to a dual fbc tuner?

No - the unicable output from each switch is split and runs to either the lounge receiver/fbc tuner) or to another area where there are several receivers fed from a multiple splitter
piro.lito
07-01-22, 22:48
But is not possible to join the two unicable lnbs and get just one cable to the receiver?

Inverto has this scheme in their website https://www.inverto.tv/what-is-unicable-2

Just scroll down and see the topic: Additional scenarios - SDU receiving 2 satellites
abu baniaz
07-01-22, 23:25
But is not possible to join the two unicable lnbs and get just one cable to the receiver?


Yes it is. Answered in post 10. Your post 9 has a diagram of how to wire it up.
piro.lito
07-01-22, 23:30
Yes it is. Answered in post 10. Your post 9 has a diagram of how to wire it up.
So basically I need the programmer to define, let’s say, lnb1 as position 1 and lnb2 as position 2 and the enable in each lnb for example:

Lnb 1, scr 1,2,3,4
Lnb 2, scr 5,6,7,8

Right?
abu baniaz
07-01-22, 23:37
No. Programmable LNBs have position numbers. YOu program the LNB with a position. When you set the LNB up on receiver, you use the position number your programmed.

Receiver 1
19.2
SCR 1,2, 3, 4, (all position 1)

28.2
SCR 1, 2, 3, 4, (all position 2)

Receiver 2
19.2
SCR 5, 6, 7, 8, (all position 1)

28.2
SCR 5, 6, 7, 8, (all position 2)
BrokenUnusableAccount
08-01-22, 02:41
You can use a combiner with programmable Unicable LNB/switches. You will need to program them. The programmers are over £100.....
Surely there is a business opportunity here.
Someone who sells Unicable LNBs could sell them programmed to the buyer's specifications for an extra payment.
Alternatively, how about renting out the programmers.
Huevos
08-01-22, 09:46
So, let me see if I understood.
You run each Quattro to a unicable switch and then the two cables run to one receiver?

Do you connect both cables to a dual fbc tuner?Twol's system is like 2 completely separate systems.

If you use an 8 input switch the output will be a single cable and both satellites will be available on that one cable. Or do as Abu suggests and combine 2 Inverto Unicable II LNBs.
TK4|2|1
08-01-22, 10:49
Couldnt 1 receiver take the inputs from the dishes, and all other receivers be used in client mode? No cables needed, except maybe Ethernet.
abu baniaz
08-01-22, 11:08
That is another option.
twol
08-01-22, 13:16
Couldnt 1 receiver take the inputs from the dishes, and all other receivers be used in client mode? No cables needed, except maybe Ethernet.

But don‘t forget each client uses a tuner (but fbc tuner would handle that)
abu baniaz
08-01-22, 14:15
Can anyone recommend multi-sat Unicable switches?
piro.lito
09-01-22, 22:31
Couldnt 1 receiver take the inputs from the dishes, and all other receivers be used in client mode? No cables needed, except maybe Ethernet.

But if the "server" receiver gets damaged no one will have TV :fart2:
piro.lito
09-01-22, 22:41
Hi guys,

Thanks for all the help.

So, since i don't have a programmer and Honestely i don't want to buy one, i think i will go with the quattro solution and i think it will become like this:
I don't mind go like this, because i can easly pass the 8 cables to the inside, the hose i choose is large enough.

63191

Each BOX will be configured like if this was a DiseqC A/B?

Thanks